why no werebears? : V - Skyrim

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:33 am

So if im understanding this correctly......your all complaining about something that is a BOOK (that was written by someone OTHER than beth) that isnt included in game? if this is indeed the fact....then this is kind of ridiculous. OK, This was a GAME series way before it was a book series. Not the other way around. I have a rule for games that have novels written about them.....ignore the novels in the lore of the game. this clears up any confusion when the developers ignore it to. which will happen nine times out of ten.

Again, you seem to be mistaken. In game lore points to stories of werebears in Skyrim. Whether or not they exist, stories of them do. Both of these are absent in Skyrim's populace.

The book "On Lycanthropy," which first appeared in Daggerfall, brings up the existence of werebears in Skyrim. In fact, werebears are the first type of lycanthrope mentioned.

They are confirmed to exist in Infernal City, which again, does appear to be canon considering events in it are referred to in Skyrim, but their first mention is in game lore.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:23 am

We have seen enough evidence to determine that this particular book is correct in its content.

Werebears have not been in a single ES game while they are only in a book. So there is no such thing as a werebear in lore.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:05 pm

Werebears have not been in a single ES game while they are only in a book. So there is no such thing as a werebear in lore.

Where do you think lore comes from?

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:09 am

Where do you think lore comes from?

Werebears do not exist. Period.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:06 pm

Werebears have not been in a single ES game while they are only in a book. So there is no such thing as a werebear in lore.

Werebears have been confirmed to exist in the canon book "The Infernal City". And Dragons had never been in a TES game before Skyrim and had only been mentioned in books and yet here they are. The same could be said of the Falmer.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:59 am

If they didn't write the lore then how would they back up there game?? Why would they write bunch of lore and not use it? That's like cooking food and then throwing it away.

Thats my point, Bethesda DIDNT write it. they just signed off on it. I I can actually see how it happened in my head to.

with todd, and all the rest iof the team in deep brainstorming and discussion about what they should do for the next game. His secretary comes in and asking him about a possible book deal. He just mutters "ok" and shoo's her away... Then a year later people are tripping about werebears. A

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:49 pm

Werebears have been confirmed to exist in the canon book "The Infernal City". And Dragons had never been in a TES game before Skyrim and had only been mentioned in books and yet here they are. The same could be said of the Falmer.

The lore is not always right since there has not been a single werebear in a game.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:29 am

The lore is not always right since there has not been a single werebear in a game.

That is called gameplay/lore segregation. There are plenty of things that didn't make it into the game like Levitation, Open Spells, and Spears, that does not mean that they have ceased to exist in that world.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:05 pm

I will not go down to your level, you are just flaming me and will get suspended.

Its not any worse that your spam. You bring us off topic when you say things like
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Werebears do not exist. Period.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:45 pm

Thats my point, Bethesda DIDNT write it. they just signed off on it. I I can actually see how it happened in my head to.

with todd, and all the rest iof the team in deep brainstorming and discussion about what they should do for the next game. His secretary comes in and asking him about a possible book deal. He just mutters "ok" and shoo's her away... Then a year later people are tripping about werebears. A

You're still ignoring the fact that the origin of the whole "werebears should be in Skyrim," school of thought is in-game lore that predates "Infernal City."

Not saying that the book guarantees the existence of werebears, but "On Lycanthropy" is what made us believe that werebears exist, and that they exist in Skyrim. Personally, I don't feel that the books legitimacy can be called into question, considering other types of lycanthropes that it brings up have been confirmed by other sources, and that it is accurate in its information on werewolves and wereboars.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:40 am

That is called gameplay/lore segregation. There are plenty of things that didn't make it into the game like Levitation, Open Spells, and Spears, that does not mean that they have ceased to exist in that world.

This, Bethesda can't put everything in a game thats in the lore.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:16 am

That is called gameplay/lore segregation. There are plenty of things that didn't make it into the game like Levitation, Open Spells, and Spears, that does not mean that they have ceased to exist in that world.

but....the difference is those thing's HAVE been in previous games.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:08 pm

You're still ignoring the fact that the origin of the whole "werebears should be in Skyrim," school of thought is in-game lore that predates "Infernal City."

Not saying that the book guarantees the existence of werebears, but "On Lycanthropy" is what made us believe that werebears exist, and that they exist in Skyrim. Personally, I don't feel that the books legitimacy can be called into question, considering other types of lycanthropes that it brings up have been confirmed by other sources, and that it is accurate in its information on werewolves and wereboars.

In-game books are inaccurate.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:15 am

but....the difference is those thing's HAVE been in previous games.

The Dragons and Falmer weren't in previous games and were mentioned only in books just like Werebears are now. And again "The Infernal City" is canon. There is no dispute. Werbears exist. The question is rather or not they will be implemented in the game.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:46 pm

You're still ignoring the fact that the origin of the whole "werebears should be in Skyrim," school of thought is in-game lore that predates "Infernal City."

Not saying that the book guarantees the existence of werebears, but "On Lycanthropy" is what made us believe that werebears exist, and that they exist in Skyrim. Personally, I don't feel that the books legitimacy can be called into question, considering other types of lycanthropes that it brings up have been confirmed by other sources, and that it is accurate in its information on werewolves and wereboars.

if you go back and look at my post you will see i edited it and answered you. the fact that the man in the book didnt actually confirm the existence of werebears says to me it was just a myth. on a side note, dragons have had IN-GAME evidence that they exist for a long time. here look. as were were bears have NONE http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Dragonbone_Cuirass

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:23 pm

In-game books are inaccurate.

See you give no explanation as to why?

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:45 pm

says to me it was just a myth.

But this is an opinion and everones opinion is different.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:22 pm

The Dragons and Falmer weren't in previous games and were mentioned only in books just like Werebears are now. And again "The Infernal City" is canon. There is no dispute. Werbears exist. The question is rather or not they will be implemented in the game.

werebears exist in the book not in the games.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:50 am

The Dragons and Falmer weren't in previous games and were mentioned only in books just like Werebears are now. And again "The Infernal City" is canon. There is no dispute. Werbears exist. The question is rather or not they will be implemented in the game.

and to your comment, see my previous comment and this http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Bloodmoon:In_Search_of_the_Falmer

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:02 pm

and to your comment, see my previous comment and this http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Bloodmoon:In_Search_of_the_Falmer

You're not going to convince me that werebears aren't real and I'm obviously not going to convince you that they are. The point of this thread is that some people want werebears because they were stated to exist and they weren't in the game which dissapointed a lot of fans(like werewolves from Oblivion).

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:43 pm

You're not going to convince me that werebears aren't real and I'm not obviously not going to convince you that they are. The point of this thread is that some people want werebears because they were stated to exist and they weren't in the game which dissapointed a lot of fans(like werewolves from Oblivion).

actually.......NONE of this is real. Just saying, its just a game. Dont complain about what they didn't put into the game, just play the game -_-

. after all, they could have just said screw it after Oblivion. also, I didnt really care that werewolfs were not in that game. Thing's like that don't bother me. this Is why I find it hard to understand people whining about it. Now im not sating that they wont add them to the game, im just saying it wont be for the lore's sake. it will be for people whining about it. and at that point will it even be worth it?

Ps. this is why werewolfs got put back into skyrim, and that.......worked out great huh? -_-

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:41 am

and to your comment, see my previous comment and this http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Bloodmoon:In_Search_of_the_Falmer

Your opinion is no more valid than anyone elses. Yours isn't going to make Beth not put them in and ours isn't going to make them put them in. Beth will add what they want.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:44 pm

and to your comment, see my previous comment and this http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Bloodmoon:In_Search_of_the_Falmer

There was no proof of Dragons before Morrowind, only books again. As for the Falmer, a book and a set of armor didn't convince many people. Before they were confirmed to exist in Skyrim, many people here on the forums believed them to be a myth just like you believe with Werebears. The difference is that Werebears have been mentioned in more than one reliable source and also a canon sighting.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:41 pm

my only response is "see my above post"

and those other sources that people keep citing are again, NOT WRITTEN BY BETHESDA. just signed off on.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:33 pm

actually.......NONE of this is real. Just saying, its just a game. Dont complain about what they didn't put into the game, just play the game -_-

. after all, they could have just said screw it after Oblivion. also, I didnt really care that werewolfs were not in that game. Thing's like that don't bother me. this Is why I find it hard to understand people whining about it. Now im not sating that they wont add them to the game, im just saying it wont be for the lore's sake. it will be for people whining about it. and at that point will it even be worth it?

I said "real" meaning real to the lore and I wasn't complaining, I just said that I was dissapointed. Anyways most threads about werebears are mostly people speculating about what they could be like and suggesting them for the next DLC. "im just saying it wont be for the lore's sake. it will be for people whining about it. and at that point will it even be worth it?" you say that like we're ask for plasma rifles or something that is completely out there, they're in the lore whether you accept it or not.