I have this script, I want it to run when a dialogue topic is chosen, but I can't figure out what to put in the script fragment/ have never really understood how scripts with dialogue works. If I have this script attached:

;BEGIN FRAGMENT CODE - Do not edit anything between this and the end comment;NEXT FRAGMENT INDEX 3Scriptname TIF__01000D8F Extends PKRoseLevel;BEGIN FRAGMENT Fragment_2Function Fragment_2(ObjectReference akSpeakerRef)Actor akSpeaker = akSpeakerRef as Actor;BEGIN CODEPKMoveSlotNum.setValue(0)LearnMove();END CODEEndFunction;END FRAGMENT;END FRAGMENT CODE - Do not edit anything between this and the begin comment

Will it run when the player reaches this topic automatically, or is there something more I have to do?

Seriously, I really need to know how to run a script on my actor from a dialogue topic.

If you put your fragment under 'Begin', it will run when the NPC starts dialogue. If you put it under 'End', it will run when the NPC finishes dialogue. I'm not sure what else you could be asking.

No, I have an actor. The actor has a script attached to them. I want to run the functions in that actor's script, from dialogue. Or, how do I run any script (you know, the scripts you can write any put in on the side in any topic) when a topic is said.

Get the reference from his alias, cast it as the scriptname like

MyScriptName MyActor = (Alias_MyAliasName.GetReference() As MyScriptName)

Then you can call functions with:

MyActor.MyMemberFunctionName()

EDIT: Nevermind, I don't understand any of what you said. I tried that and the compiler pooped itself.

You call the function from within the papyrus fragment. But the function itself should be written in your alias' script.

How. I have never once gotten this to work.

This is the answer, but it is quite codey

Just take it slow and you should be OK.

• Your dialogue needs a fragment that calls (in the Begin Block) a FUNCTION in your Actor Script (so the script must have functions, you can't just run the whole script ... So it depends what your script does and how you coded it)
  
• The NPC with the script must be aliased in your Quest

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD HOW! HOW HOW HOW? This is what I'm asking. How do you call a function in an actor script from a dialogue fragment? The function name is LearnMove, the scriptname is PKRoseLevel, and the alias for the actor is PKRoseliaAlias.

Please, anyone responding to this, do not "describe" how to fix the problem. I'm not a programmer, I don't understand your jargon, and I don't intuitively know the syntax of Papyrus. Just write a line or two of code that one would put in a papyrus fragment that would call the function of an aliased actor.

I'll explain it a bit at a time:

MyScriptName MyActor = (Alias_MyAliasName.GetReference() as MyScriptName)

Replace "MyScriptName" in both instances with the name of the script attached to your actor that has the function you want to call

MyActor is the variable name you'll be using for the actor to call your functions on.

Alias_ is the prefix the quest script automatically adds to your quest alias. You can see them if you go to the fragment script (Called QF_QUESTNAME_SomeRandomNumber on the scripts tab) and click "properties" - Replace MyAliasName with the name of the alias your actor is assigned to.

GetReference() - This function tells the Alias it is called on to return the thing to which it refers (In this case your actor)

By casting the actor as the scriptname, you can then call any functions you defined in the script you named as the type of the variable you are storing the reference in (Which is the "MyMemberFunctionName" in my earlier post)

So in English, the line says "Define a variable called MyActor of type MyScriptName, and assign it to the reference that Alias_MyAliasName is storing, and make sure it is a "MyScriptName" type of object so I can access functions and properties it has."

So...

PKRoseLevel Roselia = (Rosy.GetReference() as PKRoseLevel)Roselia.LearnMove()where Rosy is the property for the alias that I have in the dialogue sscript.

This seems to compile. I still don't understand how Papyrus fragments work, or why they even exist (why not just have attached scripts, and then have events that are the beginning and end of topics?) but at least it works.

Your best bet would be to try it and see...I would have thought it would have to be Alias_Rosy.GetReference()...you are assigning Rosy the same way the questalias was assigned? (Assuming Rosy is a quest alias?)

Fragments are a way to have the CK do a lot of the tricky coding needed to make certain parts of a script to function in specific areas and be disabled everywhere else.

What? Rosy is the alias for the actor. Why would I put a quest alias there?

We are talking about a quest fragment, right? It creates the alias references for you when you assign your aliases...

At least I think that's how it works in fragments...

It's a dialogue fragment. Hence the title of this thread...

I'm a classical programmer, so this whole "Fragmented scripting" thing is fairly new to me, so this is the Begin or End script fragment in a scene, right? Then the regular quest alias should work instead of the Alias_ property you use for the OTHER type of fragments...man the quest fragmented script thing is massively headache inducing...

I 100% agree with you.

Dialogue is always part of a Quest - Well, I know of no other way to create it?

So a script fragment in Dialogue is really just a script fragment that is part of a Quest; so it will accept Quest Alias.


No one is trying to confuse you, Ducey Those of us who are/were coders struggle with bits of it, while we work out exactly how the IDE (the CK) and the associated language (Papyrus) works.

You need to try and pick up concepts - and understand them - as well as just asking for lines of code. Figuring stuff out (having read examples) is how we all learn to code (in whatever IDE and with whatever language).


Glad this bit is working for you ... hopefully when you run across a similar thing you want to do, you think back to this, remember how it was solved and - that next time - it's much easier.


My Water Margin* Bit: Coding is a journey; one that never seems to end.

(* go google it!)

I've been thinking of script fragments as local functions for the quest stages/dialog they are attached to...hoping that won't get me into trouble later...