I personally think that they (Bethesda) could've done a bit more with the Daedra. For example, upon doing there quest to get there artifacts, perhaps they could issue a final challenge for you. Something along the line of, Daedra: "You have fullfilled what you have been tasked, however there is one more you must complete before recieving this artifact - fight me".

Then you get into a big fight with them, you're brought into a different realm (like Azura's Star) they have all these awesome powers that do severe damage to you and make you actually think of a strategy in order to defeat them. Such as they're immune to "X" spells ie: frost damage and fire damage but you don't know that until you experiment with different combinations. Or perhaps, only 2 Handed swords would be enough to penetrate there armor (if any), etc.

Upon defeat, they won't die but they'll just admit they've been bested by you and you're more than deserving of the Daedric artifact. From what I've seen playing Skyrim (my first elder scrolls game btw) is that some have a body but some talk to you spiritually in some form. I'm sure that they're strong enough to mold into a body that'll fight you, something like those spirits you see walking around in some dungeons and soforth.

Just adding a little spice to it, making the Daedra seem more interesting than "Hey do this for me and I'll give you this!". I would've loved to fight Mogel Bal (er however you spell it) he seemed like a worthy foe and very powerful.

What are you thoughts?

Well you will get your wish when they ( and they better) release a dlc to enter a daedric princes realm.

if you want to fight a prince go jump off the through of the world, same principle, if youw ant to fight lesser deadra they are around skyrim somewhere, just look

Molag Bal would own you in a way which would make you embarrassed to show your face. I find it suprising that despite Molag Bal’s sphere he is still more popular at parties than Malakath

To be fair, you've been able to fight a couple Daedra in the expansions for the two previous games (Jyggalag in Shivering Isles, Hircine in Bloodmoon). That said, my biggest criticism about the daedric quests wasn't that you couldn't fight the daedra, it was that there wasn't a whole lot of choice involved in most of them (i.e., for most it was either do the quest as written, or ignore it/leave it hanging in your journal) - especially since most of the quests had you doing evil things. This criticism is doubly so in that there's an achievement/trophy tied to getting all the daedric artifacts (would've been better if it was just "complete the quest" in any way - i.e., the few quests that have a "good" path count towards it).

Speaking of Jyggalag, why is there no mention of him whatsoever in Skyrim?

Most Daedric Princes could kill you by blinking. Read "Boethiah's Proving."

Well, you are asking Daedric Princes to be good, and they all, for the most part, have a completely different grasp on morality than mortals do. You could argue that it's an improvement over Oblivion, where most of what you had to do for the Daedric princes were fetch quests half the time, harmless pranks, etc, and generally only one path. The Skyrim Daedric quests tend to at least allow you to decide in the most 'evil' cases if the artifact is worth committing an act of evil to obtain, achievment or not.

As for Jyggalag, perhaps he is laying low? If memory serves, he was cursed to begin with by the other Daedric Princes because he was gaining too much power, and one would imagine he could be trying to avoid a repeat.

And on the subject of fighting the Daedric princes themselves... you are aware that they are essentially deities, right? Dragonborn or not, they could pretty effortlessly kill us. The only Daedric prince fought for real in any of the games is Mehrunes Dagon at the end of the game, and he's pretty much impossible for the player to kill unless you use a specific combination of weapon enchants.

I haven't found Boethiah's Provings book yet to be able to read it, so I don't know just yet.

As for "Daedric Princes could kill you by blinking", I'm positive that there was a Daedra that said to me I was "almost" as powerful as he was. I *think* it was the one that was in the bar in Whiterun which you had the drinking contest with him and at the end of the quest he said that.

So perhaps you could beat them it would just be a tough fight as I would hope for.

True. Our past heroes in TES games have been strong, and the latest one has some serious unique powers (shouts), but Daedric Princes are in a whole new level of power. When prince of destruction appeared in Oblivion I pretty much said ''holy s***''.

read "azura and the box" they are not all knowing and all powerful either (still it is a death wish to try to fight a prince, its like attempting to fight gravity, it can be beat but not by you or anyone that anyone really knows)

You fought an aspect of Hircine. Fighting a complete version would be unimaginably difficult.
In Shivering Isles…an argument could be made that most of the realm was still against him. He was also a Daedric Prince without a realm which is unprecedented. In short, it is a very poor example of how a typical battle with a Daedric prince would go.

I really wanted to kill Molag Bal.
But to do this i'd probably have to abuse every possible Glitch to make me all powerful

I killed Mehrunes Dagon in Oblivion, and I play on Xbox.
too bad all he does is fall down into a big Blob, kind of like a Witch melting in water

I dunno about all this talk about how fighting/beating a daedric prince would be a deathwish. After all, in Morrowind you could kill Vivec, and he bested Mehrunes Dagon. Seems pretty much the same as beating a prince.

As for my earlier comment about not liking how there are only evil actions on the Daedric quests - I didn't mean that there should have been good actions you do *for* the princes; I meant there should have been good actions you could do *against* their wishes. You wouldn't get the artifact, but the quest would be completed and out of your journal (and preferably counting towards your achievement), rather than stuck there in limbo if you didn't want to do it.

You'll never win a fight against a Daedric prince.

Daedric princes first off cannot die. Like at all. You can defeat them but only with the aid of other things and due to very specific circumstances. Fighting them evenly one on one is asking to have your ass handed to you after Molag Bal goes all headless vehk on you.

It would be better to fight a powerful Daedra from their realm as a stand in champion.

Personally, I was shocked in SI when your character took on Mr Jiggy (as I like to call him). The Daedric Princes could wipe the floor with you, ring you out, then wipe the floor with your carcass again... shouts or no shouts, these dudes are nothing to scoff at.

The mere thought of a mortal taking on a Daedric Prince is just silly to me. But hey, it offers a good storyline and gameplay I guess.

LOL. I am indeed mighty in my level 50 Dark Elf, my fifth character with all the knowledge the other four bought me, but he, who delights in face to face Ancient Dragon conflict just for the kill anis laughs at your presumption.

Despite being a loyal Boethiah worshipper, I don't have the book memorized, and had forgotten that he (or in the book she) does in fact literally kill somebody by blinking. I just meant it would take so little effort.

I don't have Shivering Isles, so I cant say how the battle against Jyggalag goes. But I would have to say that he probably isnt at his best, having just returned after several centuries.Besides, he might actually want to lose the fight. And I never finished Bloodmoon, but I do know you only fight against an Aspect of Hircine, not Hircine himself. Put all three of them together, and you probably are still a ways off from all of Hircine's power.

The battle with Jyggalag is not representative of fighting a full blown Daedric prince on normal terms. You were gifted with some of Sheogoraths power via the staff and font of madness + you were groomed for the fight by Sheogorath himself. You also mantled Sheogorath and fought Jyggalag as a Daedric prince in some respects.

Vivec was but a shell of his formal glory during the time of the Nerevarim. He was unable to renew his connection to the heart for generations. There are even notes in his temple talking about how he is losing power.

There's no need for it. It wouldn't really add anything to the game, and it could create huge continuity problems.

Go play Oblivion.

In lore, the Daedra Princes are considered godlike beings. Alduin himself would be lower in the divinity rankings. Allowing the dragonborn to fight them would sort of cheapen them.

That would be pointless. The daedra are part of creation, they can't really be killed by mortals. They only appear weak because they can't project themselves into the mortal realm too much, but if they were threatened by your puny mortal self then all they would have to do is fwoop back into Oblivion.

To re-emerge at some later point and wreak horrible revenge on you.

I take it that was only because he was occupied fighting Sheogorath, who was helping you. IOW you caught him with one hand tied behind his back.

It didn't look that way when I fought him! It looked as if both his hands were in the process of trying to kill me.

But like another poster said, we had a lot of help from the Madgod himself in that particular scrap. Personally, I want the whole "You vs a Daedric Prince" thing to be something that was tied to SI alone and leave it at that.

When folks starting entertaining the idea of taking on a living God is when Bethesda needs to start thinking about nerfing our next Tamriellic hero. Steamplowing the past two title's content is starting to make some folks think that we're so powerful within our little world that can even take on an immortal being.

Just my two Septims on the matter.