http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXA-KA-pEKw

So this has been trending recently and people seem to be really on the lady's side (maybe not so much on her side but against the cop). Normally, I'm on the citizen's side, but in this case, I have to agree with the officer. She could have easily taken a couple steps back and had been ok, but she instead decided to play stupid, refuse and straight up not respond.

I understand the legality, but if the cop feels like he's in danger, then I think you should do something to alleviate the situation.

What are your thoughts?

It is like having your boss hovering behind you while you work.

She clearly had several chances to do what the officer ask, she deserves to be arrested on account of stupidity

The cop gave her several opportunities and did not speak to her in a derogatory way. IMO I found it pretty funny that she was crying when she got arrested it's not like she didn't have any warning or they just arbitrarily arrested her.

No way the should have arrested her.

Police are hilarious, big tough alpha types that claim they are afraid of the most ridiculous stuff. ``I had to taser the old guy, I felt threatened. I had to arrest this lady, we were uncomfortable with her standing near us.`` Honestly, take off your jack boots and try to act like professionals. And they wonder why people hate them so much.

She's done nothing wrong, she's allowed to stand her in front yard. It's completely unreasonable to arrest her. She's clearly not posing a threat, she's stood well clear of where the policemen are operating. And when she says she'll move back he arrests her anyway? The policemen are way out of line.


Granted, we didn't hear what she said before she started filming, the policeman mentioned something was said. I still highly doubt it was grounds enough to arrest an unarmed woman.


EDIT:

Would like to add that I'm well aware we don't know what the other person is being arrested for, but mulitple armed(!) policemen shouldn't feel threatened from a woman filming them from her own lawn. If that's a threat they should consider a new career.


And also, agreed with Andy below.

Typical police bullying tactics.

It starts simply with the cop saying he didn't feel safe with her standing behind her.. with a camcorder..

suure... <_<

This seems to me a case of the police not wanting to be watched while they worked, and coming up with a lame ass excuse for it.

Like the top comment says: Rights aren't rights if they someone can take them away from you, especially a case like this.

What next? A police van rides down the street first with a megaphone:

WILL ALL CITIZENS STAND WITH THEIR FEET ON THE YELLOW PRINTS IN THE ROOM.
WE HAVE OFFICIAL POLICE BUSINESS IN THIS STREET.
ANYONE FOUND NOT STANDING ON THE DESIGNATED YELLOW PRINTS WILL BE CONSIDERED HOSTILE, NEUTRALIZED AND PROSECUTED IF STILL ALIVE.
THANK YOU, THAT IS ALL.

:shrug:

I'd be interested to know what she said before she started filming. But then, if that guy really was the type to get arrest-happy because she was outside/behind him (and it seems she was far enough away that she couldn't have jumped him or anything, and she seemed calm, so I don't know why he felt unsafe), then I also wonder why he didn't arrest her sooner if she was being particularly nasty off camera.

As it was, they probably would have been better off just ignoring her. They seemed to be doing their job well up to that point as it wasn't like she was filming any brutality or other unprofessional behaviour.

It was her property. If I see someone near my property, I grab a gun and wait for them to get away. Granted, I wouldn't've gone to the very edge of my property and video taped them, I would've stayed on the porch with a rifle. She shouldn't have gotten that close, but it was still her property.

God, I love Texas. :hugs: <-- hugs are real


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Gawd, but how Ah do luvs Texas!

:teehee:

You'd draw your gun if the police came near your property? Not only is that unbelievably excessive in most situations, drawing a gun on the police is just ridiculous.


Also, in this situation, it would seem the woman filming has some involvement with the person being arrested, if you drew your gun, then, well at least they'd have good reason to arrest you.

Then you wouldn't love Indiana, where you aren't allowed to oppose police if they enter your home illegally. It's a crime if you do. Still an illegal entry, though, and that's something. But the only thing that happens with that is the case might get thrown out of court, and the cop might get reprimanded.

There is little to admire in police officers now days.

Game Wardens can do that in Texas

Unfortunately, yeah.

See, this is why I don't like the police. They spend more time harassing law abiding people and making themselves feel important than they do actually preventing or stopping real crimes.


And then there's when they call you a "civilian" as if they're in the freaking military now.

Cops are becoming increasingly militarized, that is entirely true, Turns.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZFH4wCLVXY

I don't believe they should have arrested her, but she should have listened.

Any reason why she should have listened, huh? Was she doing anything wrong?

There are some good police officers out there, but unfortunately they seem to be less and less common.


I caught the end of a program my parents were watching last night about a hospital in London, and there were two gangs who'd been fighting, knives had come out and one member of each gang had been stabbed. There was a bunch of gang members (from both sides) in the hospital checking on their respective "boy", and two policemen there taking statements (nobody knew who the others were, who'd have guessed it), but, when they came to the ends of their shift, it was a quick bye-bye and they left.

Leaving a bunch of doctors, nurses and patients in the middle of a gang war. And they were both actually trying to "stab up" their opposites in the hospital.

Nothing really, but it's always best not to tick off the police. They put up with a lot of crap and they sometimes just vent on people. Thus unnecessary force and the like. And situations like this.

It's not as if they went up to her, she started filming them. Another thing they didn't arrest her for filming, they arrested her for being a [censored] moron and not going back inside her house despite several warnings.

Pro-tip: If the police say they're going to arrest you if you continue a particular activity are you going to keep doing it? There is a difference between fighting for fair rights/exercising your freedom and being a moron. In this case I'd say the woman was a moron.

Yeah, you aren't morally obligated to do what a cop says just because he's a cop.


I'm not exactly fighting for my rights if I just give up every time some ass hole with a shiny badge threatens me.

+100000000000000000

It's a crime to be dense now? If that's the case, the officer should be locked up.

I have a "pro-tip" for you, the police can't arrest you when you're doing nothing wrong.


She was actually thinking pretty quick when she decided to film the proceedings, calling her a moron is out of line.

Legally, no.

But really, it annoys me when people do stuff just because they are legally allowed to. I wouldn't like it if I arrested someone and it is being recorded and put on youtube. Whoever was being arrested probably wouldn't like it either. So they ask her to stop, but then she just has to be a smart-ass about how she's standing in her lawn so she's legally allowed to be annoying, and just keep pushing that for no sensible reason other than 'because I can'.