Wow I totally forgot that Elsweyr seceded...

Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:29 pm

And are now the two kingdoms which are client states of the Thalmor... :( My favorite race... Client states of the Thalmor D:
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Ridhwan Hemsome
 
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:59 am

We still don't know why the moons disappeared. Or why the Kahjiit actually fell for the Thalmor claims that they caused it to return.

Of course this could all be answered in a satisfactory manner if all these dull and predictable Dwemer, Falmer and beat the Thalmor in Summerset dlc ideas were dropped, and they gave us something genuinely interesting, involved Khajiit, Moonsugar and Llesweyr. Just saying, like.
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Robert Jackson
 
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:53 pm

Thalmors are pretty cool, if you think about it. They are the exact opposite of the extreme Nordic attitude.
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Mandi Norton
 
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:59 pm

Morrowind, devestated by the eruption of Red Mountain and then attacked by Argonians over the tradition of slavery there. I think the Thalmor had a hand in the latter. My favorite race, reduced to a bunch of refugees.
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Tom
 
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:30 am

with a sweep off somebody's pen, we lose.
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:21 am

We still don't know why the moons disappeared. Or why the Kahjiit actually fell for the Thalmor claims that they caused it to return.

You know, it's possible the khajiit leaders didn't fall for it. They may just have realised that the khajiit stood a better chance of survival if they didn't oppose the Thalmor. The moons reappearing may just have been a better excuse than most for submitting their people to subjugation.
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Kim Bradley
 
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:08 pm

You know, it's possible the khajiit leaders didn't fall for it. They may just have realised that the khajiit stood a better chance of survival if they didn't oppose the Thalmor. The moons reappearing may just have been a better excuse than most for submitting their people to subjugation.
Seeing as it was a coup which dissolved the confederacy, not the old leadership, obviously. Using internal power struggles is the modus operandi of the Thalmor, however, as seen in Valenwood, but it was 15 years between the end of the void night and the formation of the two client states; if the new leaders of the Khajiit were involved in the deception, would that process not have been completed more quickly?
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:16 am

... but it was 15 years between the end of the void night and the formation of the two client states; if the new leaders of the Khajiit were involved in the deception, would that process not have been completed more quickly?

That depends on how opposed the general populous is. You have to convince enough people of something before you can get them to go along with it. 15 years seems like a reasonable time to shift public opinion on something as big as signing a treaty. It's possible most khajiit didn't believe the claims at first, and that over time they were convinced.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:08 pm

That depends on how opposed the general populous is. You have to convince enough people of something before you can get them to go along with it. 15 years seems like a reasonable time to shift public opinion on something as big as signing a treaty. It's possible most khajiit didn't believe the claims at first, and that over time they were convinced.
I guess this an area where a little more official lore would go a long way. all we have is the timeline, unless I have missed something interesting somewhere, which is more than likely.
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:01 am

I guess this an area where a little more official lore would go a long way. all we have is the timeline, unless I have missed something interesting somewhere, which is more than likely.

I don't know much about the lore re: khajiit. I'm just spitballing. :) I like my explanation, though. If VI ends up in Elsweyr (oh please, Bethesda... :sadvaultboy: ) it would be nice to have a meaty political part like Skyrim has, but more fleshed out. A little more official lore would be nice...
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:58 pm

Thalmors are pretty cool, if you think about it. They are the exact opposite of the extreme Nordic attitude.

Yeah, Nords are racists (well the ones in Windhelm are) while the Dominion only wants kill all humans ^_^

Would be nice to know what was behind the decision. Maybe they just tought it is better to be with them than at war with them? Maybe they felt gratitude for (supposedly) ending the Void Nights? Maybe they just had enough of the Empire?

Regardless, there's bound to be a resistance movement :hehe:
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:15 am

Yup. It's terrible. You know what would make it better? A unified empire to take Tamriel back from those militaristic zealots.

The Legion - sign up today.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:28 pm

True Bosmeri don't take kindly to lolkittehz.

>implying I hate cats.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:51 pm

The Khajiit fell for the Thalmor's wiles because they had no direction. The Mane was murdered (probably by a Thalmor assassin, but there's no proof, only speculation...), and in their time of confusion (the moons weren't aligned, so a new Mane hasn't been born yet) the Thalmor came in and offered them safety, claimed that they brought back the moons and ended the Oblivion Crisis, etc.

These are the most likely reasons that the Khajiit fell for the Thalmor's lies.
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