how about race specific intros? i mean think about it, depending on which race you are, you get a particular intro, like if your a nord you would get the normal opening, but if you were a dunmer you would start off as a prisoner in windhelm, or if you were a argonion you would start off in riften or something. What do you guys think, and what would be a good opening for each of the different races?

For what? It would be too complicated, and different intros may have advantages compared to the others, robbing you of some freedom(why should you play one race if another starts so much better off...)
ANd they would be most likely rather boring...

Go and play Dragon Age.

i just meant like in different areas. to keep in line with the typical elder scrolls intro, they would all start off as prisoners, just in different contexts that make sense for the race, not that one gets to start off as a jarl of a city or anything, i just think it would give each race some indiviuality is all

Morrowind and Oblivion each had the exact same intro for every race, so technically, Skyrim is fitting into the 'typical elder scrolls' trend perfectly.

I think there should be class specific dialog. Like if your a mage, you get the option to talk like one, Thief, then threaten & scare. And so on.

I was not impressed with racial intros in Dragon Age: Origins. The areas and stories themselves were well-done but once you left the racial areas the game was essentially the same regardless of race. It's the same way with MMOs such as World of Warcraft and Vanguard: Saga of Heroes which feature racial starter zones. Enter the main game and the differences between races mostly melt away.

As far as I'm concerned racial starter areas are little more than a gimmick.

Interesting, but it could take away freedom for backstories many players make before starting a new character. It would also interfere with the start of the main quest for several reasons. I think it's much better to just have the default starting location for all races.

There is a mod that does just what the op says for computer skyrim. I hear its very good. You jumping on the OP, well stop. I was thinking the same thing when this game came out. I was hoping it had the same thing as the op. Do to no matter who I chooses, what I do in another game, it starts all the same. Gets boring having to do the same 30min BS every time you start a new game. Takes me weeks sometimes to start a new character do to having to go threw the same bs every time. Then do I go to riften or go somewhere else first. Dam got all this stuff to sell of to riften again for the 30 time. I think the op is right, hell I would go farther and say to bad they did not make it where you can pick your own back-story and depending on what you pick depends on what you start with and where you start. That my fellow gamers is what a game company should be going for options. NOT THE generic BS no matter what you do you start with this and that. I swear that as I get older the newer gamers have less expectations and just want games full of just killing.

Back in my day we had game where you could chooses your path the graphics ****ed compared to today’s graphics but they rocked. As the graphics get better and better the games keep going more and more to just hack/slash games for casual gamers. Now that’s a good Laugh. YOUR A GAMER OR YOUR NOT there is no in-between. So if your a causal gamer as the game industry calls you people do us a favor casual gamers and leave. We true gamers want theses game companies begging us true gamers for our money and holding there feet to the fire if they **** up by making a peace of **** game. How you ask we don’t buy there piece of ***** games making it to where they have to come out with a box office buster or fail. Plus you causal gamers buy DLC BS that should have been in the game in the first place. So not only do you pay X amount for the game but have to keep paying for **** they kept out and released later to make even more money. 10 years ago all the way back to the beginning of home gaming us true gamers would have never stood for such BS. Any game company that tried that **** would been put out of business. Yet do to you casual gamers that day has passed and this BS is now here do to your lack of principles.


Its a great day is it not causal gamers you are the ones responsible for all this BS that we true gamers have to put up with do to your lack of principles. and lack of expectations. You just want something to play for a few hours to pass the time and be just killing everything that moves. You cant stand having to uses your brain to figure out a puzzle and spending hours to solve it. NO cant have that now, need to just keep hacking and slashing. Cant have the area turn into a long maze where you can become lost, nope cant have that casual gamers will be upset being lost. Have to have markers to show where they need to go. Causal gamers might get mad if they cant figure it out. Have to idiot proof everything with lack of options do to causal gamers might not be able to understand or have the time to figure it out causing them to throw a hissy fit. Cant have that they might not buy the next game we put out.

By the way causal gamers any game you can finish in less then a week is not a real game, its a demo.... That’s just one difference between a real gamer and a causal gamer.

Sounds like it would be a good idea but in the end it would contribute very little to the overall game and would likely take development time away from other features.

There are a few mods that try to simulate what you looking for though if you are on PC.

So Skyrim's a demo?

I also have a life outside of video games and I can't be spending weeks to months to years playing video games.
In fact, I only have 62 hours logged on Skyrim.

yeah, i wasn't demanding that they do this or anything, i just thought it would be kinda cool, i completly understand that it would probably be too much work for not that much of a difference....and for they record, i've never even played the dragon age games, so i had no idea they had already done this, haha.

and good point

Never said skyrim was a demo unless you can finish it in a week? Yet you put you only logged in 62 hours so I would say that is a no. I'm talking about all theses BS games that the game companies been pumping out more and more. Pick up a game say like Forced Unleashed 2 after about 6-1/2 hours you finish it. That is a DEMO not a real game. A true gamer would know this a causal games say well I got my moneys worth. I have games to this day that I cant play, why the computers of today cant play them. Yet they were awesome to play and some I never got to finish. Hell I have some P1 games still too, all of them tons of fun to play when I go back to play them. None of them can be finished in less than a week. Why game companies did not have low standard back then, like they do today due to all the causal gamers who just keep throwing money at theses game companies to produce peace of **** games with very little options and just hack/slash away. FUN. I remember games that would make your head explode just trying to figure out how to get from point A to point B with out dying and you could not look up the answer do to there was no such thing as Internet. You had to find the clues and figure it out.

Save this Elder Scrolls #: Tamriel, which will be the one that will allow you to go all provinces of Tamriel and also having a special beginning in your home province.

That is prolly the best time to use something like that...If they want to, they can remake Arena and pull off some sort of scheme where you can begin in your own province and end up in the Imperial Prison for whatever you did. That would be interesting since you will finally be able to control what you did when you were thrown into jail unlike in the current TES games.

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Most of what you say here is rather silly. I get the fact that companies are gearing games towards certain generations of social networked teens who have different values over games than us olds do. Mulitplayer trumps single player, because kids play it for longer and there's less design involved.

However, this whole "causal gamers have ruined computers" is where it gets silly. There's a whole range of reasons why game development has gone the way it does. Smaller studios have gone bust, or been bought out by bigger ones. Now, part of this may be the dynamics of the consumer base, but putting it in terms of two distinct groups with their own identities is just not rooted in any kind of reality. It just amounts to you saying "why can't more people be like me?"

The other point is, the beauty of computer games is you don't have to play the most recent now. It's like music. For me, good music largely stopped being made after the early 90's. The handy thing is, I can still listen to that music. JJust like I can still play Sensible World of Soccer, The Nomad Soul, KOTOR and so on, without having to think of it like a crusade against an imagined group of nasty folks called "casuals".