Do you think dragons are, or were, real? : Othor Games

» Sun May 13, 2012 10:48 am

There is a Bearded Dragon in a tank next to me. He looks real. Feels real. Smells real... and stinky.

» Sun May 13, 2012 4:20 am

Pterosaurs had wingspans of 33 feet. That's pretty large.

Yes but a Pterosaurs weighed about 320 -400 pounds approx. A large lizard which is what a dragon is going by the common idea's of what a dragon is would weigh over a tonne. If it were smaller then it could be possible. Otherwise probably not.

» Sun May 13, 2012 8:57 am

PLEASE lets not turn this into some sort of Dragon/Jesus comparison thread!!

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs38/f/2008/334/b/3/Draco_as_Raptor_Jesus_by_lizardseraphim.jpg

» Sat May 12, 2012 8:24 pm

I can say with absolute certainty, beyond any reasonable doubt and with no possibility of being wrong or otherwise corrected by anyone past, living or future, that dragons (as in fire breathing flying reptiles) have never existed ever and the the myth has come about because people found dinosaur bones below the K–T boundary (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K–T_boundary).

Anyone who disagrees is wrong.

YOU ARE WRONG!

/me puts fingers in ears and shout "nah nah nah. I can't hear you" over and over.

» Sat May 12, 2012 11:59 pm

No M'aiq refferences yet? I'm dissapointed in you all.
Must.... resist.... urge.....

» Sat May 12, 2012 6:38 pm

The correct answer would be that we don't know yet. We cannot immediately dismiss it though as that would be just as unfounded as claiming that they do exist without any substantial evidence.

I agree you can't say for certain, but when you use evidence to calculate oxygen levels millions of years ago and then use mathmatics to work out the mass of the animal of a certain size, - the wing span then required to create flight against the oxygen levels and finally the fight against gravity it starts to become difficult for animals of a certain size to get airbourne.

» Sat May 12, 2012 10:04 pm

There is a Bearded Dragon in a tank next to me. He looks real. Feels real. Smells real... and stinky.

That's so cool. I've allways wondered about creatures like them, are they one of the remainders of earths prehistoric past?

/This thread was in no way an attempt to calm my fears of Dragons resurecting and eating my guinea pigs.

» Sun May 13, 2012 9:02 am

No M'aiq refferences yet? I'm dissapointed in you all.
Must.... resist.... urge.....

you could at least link to something.. now I gotta go google that :dry:

sokay though, keeps me in practice

» Sat May 12, 2012 11:17 pm

No, but if there was a possiblity it would probably be the "eastern" version of a dragon. So like no wings but lots of legs and stuff. Maybe thats what the Komodo Dragon is a relative of.

» Sun May 13, 2012 7:12 am

I can say with absolute certainty, beyond any reasonable doubt and with no possibility of being wrong or otherwise corrected by anyone past, living or future, that dragons (as in fire breathing flying reptiles) have never existed ever and the the myth has come about because people found dinosaur bones below the K–T boundary (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K–T_boundary).

Anyone who disagrees is wrong.

YOU ARE WRONG!

/me puts fingers in ears and shout "nah nah nah. I can't hear you" over and over.

Hahahaha

You know, if Dragons DO rise up tomorrow and start to reclaim the world as their own, I'm going to send you a wiki link to the definition of the word 'irony'. That's how things usually work, right?

» Sat May 12, 2012 6:50 pm

Hahahaha

You know, if Dragons DO rise up tomorrow and start to reclaim the world as their own, I'm going to send you a wiki link to the definition of the word 'irony'. That's how things usually work, right?

Listen, we don't.. Er, I mean, dragons don't exist. And if we did, we'd already be ruling the world.

» Sat May 12, 2012 11:42 pm

you could at least link to something.. now I gotta go google that :dry:

sokay though, keeps me in practice :smile:

M'aiq the Liar from Oblivion, Morrowind, and now, Skyrim. He had something to say about dragons:
"I have seen dragons. Perhaps you will see a dragon. I won't say where I saw one. Perhaps I did not." and
"Dragons? Oh, they're everywhere! You must fly very high to see most of them, though. The ones nearer the ground are very hard to see, being invisible."

» Sun May 13, 2012 9:39 am

Listen, we don't.. Er, I mean, dragons don't exist. And if we did, we'd already be ruling the world.

Those aren't dragons, those are the Lizard folk that secretly live underground in lairs that David Icke keeps going on about.

oh [censored] :cold:

edit:
Thanks Texnshasta

» Sun May 13, 2012 9:03 am

Those aren't dragons, those are the Lizard folk that secretly live underground in lairs that David Icke keeps going on about.

oh [censored] :cold:

edit:
Thanks Texnshasta :smile:

Look, this whole thing with the Icke came about because The Queen accidentally burped a fireball into Margaret Thatchers face and she replied with a pressure wave that knocked some wine over onto his tux (which was a rental). It had nothing to do with dragons, The Queen just happend to have had a mouthful of gin too near a candle and Thatcher just happens to have a forceful voice. Nothing to do with dragons in any way.

And no, when Philip turned into a 50 foot high reptile that crashed through the roof of the Palace, that wasn't dragons either. He's just like that.

» Sat May 12, 2012 7:48 pm

Throughout history, and throughout the world, Dragons have been spoken of. Would this make you beleive that once upon a time they did infact exist?

No.

Or do you go for the more logical approach that Dragons were just winged Dinosaurs?

Dinosaurs and humans didn't exist in the same time period, so unless ancient humans deciphered fossils somehow, they would never have known about them.

» Sun May 13, 2012 2:13 am

Look, this whole thing with the Icke came about because The Queen accidentally burped a fireball into Margaret Thatchers face and she replied with a pressure wave that knocked some wine over onto his tux (which was a rental). It had nothing to do with dragons, The Queen just happend to have had a mouthful of gin too near a candle and Thatcher just happens to have a forceful voice. Nothing to do with dragons in any way.

Thatcher has Thu'um, awesome.

» Sun May 13, 2012 12:43 am

Dinosaurs and humans didn't exist in the same time period, so unless ancient humans deciphered fossils somehow, they would never have known about them.

Which isn't to say some Egyptian 4000BC couldn't have stumbled across the fossilized remains of a pterodactyl and thought "Holy [censored]!", but then in hieroglyphs..

which I believe is a picture of a massive steaming turd, crowned with a halo above it.

I think.

» Sat May 12, 2012 6:30 pm

No.

Dinosaurs and humans didn't exist in the same time period, so unless ancient humans deciphered fossils somehow, they would never have known about them.

I've heard a seemingly logical reason for the mythical creation of the dragon in that the dragon combines traits of historically feared and/or respected creatures in human history.

» Sun May 13, 2012 8:43 am

St George killed one, so there.

that ought to shut the English up at least..

» Sat May 12, 2012 9:40 pm

But I'm the Dragon born, of course they're real!

» Sat May 12, 2012 7:13 pm

I wouldn't be surprised if at some point people came across dinosaur bones and dreamed up with the idea of dragons. Last I heard there weren't many living dinosaurs left by the time homo sapiens and our close evolutionary relatives hit the scene, so I doubt it's a direct result of people seeing large living dinosaurs.

» Sat May 12, 2012 6:18 pm

Nope, I'd be pretty shocked if they were real. Mainly because of the size. Nothing close to Dragon sized exists as a flying animal. There's lots of good reasons for that, the main one being that as size increases, weight increases.

» Sun May 13, 2012 1:19 am

Which isn't to say some Egyptian 4000BC couldn't have stumbled across the fossilized remains of a pterodactyl and thought "Holy [censored]!", but then in hieroglyphs..

which I believe is a picture of a massive steaming turd, crowned with a halo above it.

I think.

St George killed one, so there.

that ought to shut the English up at least.. :tongue:

» Sat May 12, 2012 8:01 pm

Nope, I'd be pretty shocked if they were real. Mainly because of the size. Nothing close to Dragon sized exists as a flying animal. There's lots of good reasons for that, the main one being that as size increases, weight increases.

Manmade WWII gliders weighed as much as three tons fully loaded.. and they flew fairly well... (Waco CG-4)

Hell, the Japanese even had a flying tank that weighed in at 3500kg.. and it flew without powered assist. (Maeda Ku-6)

Weight stops being a problem when you're speaking of gliding on thermals instead of serious flapping wings flight..

» Sat May 12, 2012 6:31 pm

I find it so funny how majority of people I meet don't believe that Dragons could have existed, due to the fact that there is no evidenceyet have some religious beliefs. Irony huh?

I'm a big believer in Dragons existing in the past, though I have no belief that they exist now, mainly due to http://www.valserrie.com/vs%20A_DidDragonsixist.htm article.

If anyone has the patience to read it, please do. It's freaking awesome. :happy: