I'm not one for promoting other games, but I definitely recommend "Cabella's Big Game Hunter." I think that's what you're looking for.

Huh? I thought "High Fantasy" is what you got on those pay-per-view channels. Now I'm confused.

I thought high fantasy was what you got after a few hours with a bong.

How are you (the player) morally ambiguous? You can easily play a morally good character by....
Saving the Circle
Brokering a peace between the Werewolves and the Dalish by removing the Werewolve's curse
Saving Redcliffe and the boy.
Stopping the Imperium's Slave Trade in the Alienage.
Helping everyone in the second town before its destroyed.
Annoying the crap out of Morrigan by being good.
Plus a HOST of other ways...

Orzimarr is the only real ambiguous choice... choosing the rightful king causes a slow downfall of the city, but the people there aren't goverened by a Tyrant. Choosing Bhelin is the opposite.

What copy of DA:O have YOU been playing?

Maybe my idea of "dark" has been skewed by things like Warhammer 40k, the Cuthulu mythos, the Alien series... y'know, where the only "good" guy is the Protagonist... usually. And is fighting things that are dark, evil, barely comprehensable by man and cannot really be stopped by the force of man. DA:O doesn't really fit the latter; the blights are cause by an Archdemon, and stopped by killing it. There are 7. Five have been killed so far.

Compare that with Khorne, who is strengthened by fighting and exists so long there is fighting, Cthulu who drives people mad when they LOOK at him, or the Alien which is a super-predator that's intellegent enough to use its environment to its advantage... at the very least.

Exactly what Skyrim is.

You really have no idea about the lore. People like you are responsible for things like TES:O.

Let me just rant here, I really can't stand that attitude of yours.

Um, this. Wth, TC?

*Checks outside*
Good, no dragon priests floating down the street. I had to be sure, I get so immersed in Skyrim at times, you know?

I agree OP. you would think there would be more dawnguard and vampire lords walking around before the dlc's came out.

Daniels

Stop talking.

I agree. This upsets me just about as much as that time when that guy claimed magical things need to be removed so he could play the "real" Skryim. These kinds of things cause so many problems in TES and I pray Bethesda never listens to it.

This +10000000000

It's supposed to be a fantasy game. Skyrim is a fantasy RPG game. Not Scandinavian Simulator 2013. The DLC's fit in perfectly with the setting.

And this, I want to rage so badly now.

Jeez, he's getting a lot of flak for this.

He keeps posting that stuff. I tried to reason with the dude before, but he just sticks to his flawed views without respect for the integrity of fictional work.

Actually, and you may hate me for this, I have looked at TESO recently and it seems a marked improvement from what I saw in the first vids and discussions. Still hoping it won't be horrible.

To be honest, the video material released yesterday was somewhat decent.

Yeah, the world looks better to me now, though still more stylized. I was most pleased to see real time, aim based combat ala TES. Thank you, thank you Zenimax Online for giving the WoW copycat trend the finger and doing it right! Oh and the battles seem pretty impressive (destructible walls FTW!)

Now if the world isn't chopped up into too many awkward gamey areas (I don't mind mountains as bariers in LOGICAL (as in IN THE LORE MAPS) PLACES), I will be fairly pleased. I will have to try it when it is out to see how good it really is though. But things are looking up (I was really worried and prepared to be pissed that it was going to be a WoW knock off).

JayP9, i am being 100% serious when i say that TES is not suited for you. these DLC's are big departures from your idea of Skyrim, not departures from the real Skyrim. the Volkihar vampire clan are mentioned in past TES games as being native to Skyrim, and in Dawnguard, we get the Volkihar. how is that a big departure?

Hearthfire is about building a home, and family. are you saying that in Skyrim there are no houses or families?

we don't even know for sure what Dragonborn is about. too early to judge that one.

just open UESP, TIL or elder scrolls wiki and start reading lore pages

*That moment when you realize this is the same guy you're talking about*

Look at the bright side: it's only one guy to worry about.

Fit into Skyrim better...? Do you know anything about TES lore and previous TES games? The aim is for it to fit into the lore of the TES universe as a whole, not just Skyrim. I mean no ill-will by this, but I highly doubt you understand what warrants for fantasy, which the very soul of TES is rooted in.

For me personally a cheesy vampire lord does not suit skyrim.

The Elderscrolls is High Fantasy.

Was Skyrim your first Elderscrolls game OP,or are you confusing it for another game?


What idiot said this? And what thread did he say it?