Alpha Werewolf

Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:07 am

Not to put to fine a point on it but they are Wolves. When was the last time you seen a wolf, crouch behind a deer and bite its ass. Sneaking normally is used to get as close as possible to prey. However when your a Werewolf which can run faster than a horse...

It would be sweet to have Werebears but honestly I prefer ripping my target apart to giving them a bear hug. Also if the Werebear were in Dawnguard the trailer would have definitely shown them. I think the Khajit should have a race specific tree. Werecats and all that...
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:12 pm

Oh, well your really no better than the rest unless you have the perk tree.

There's always the "alpha werewolf" by doing the
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:07 pm

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Did anyone ever go toe-toe with Sindine's Werewolf form while also in Werewolf form? It pretty one-sided I feel, though still epic.
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:02 am

There's always the "alpha werewolf" by doing the
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Ring of Hircine
quest.

Does he say you are at the end? I don't remember.
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:32 am

Does he say you are at the end? I don't remember.

Well you sort of are, considering you're Hircine's favourite and he's the one who gives the gift of lycanthropy. Plus the quest reward means you can transform as often as you like, which you could easily RP as a gift making you the alpha werewolf.
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:14 am

Not to put to fine a point on it but they are Wolves. When was the last time you seen a wolf, crouch behind a deer and bite its ass. Sneaking normally is used to get as close as possible to prey. However when your a Werewolf which can run faster than a horse...

It would be sweet to have Werebears but honestly I prefer ripping my target apart to giving them a bear hug. Also if the Werebear were in Dawnguard the trailer would have definitely shown them. I think the Khajit should have a race specific tree. Werecats and all that...
Were creatures are not race specific at all. A Breton could be bitten by a werelion, and he will take the form of a werelion. Khajiit can be bitten by a werecroc and take the form of a werecroc. If you played as a Khajiit in Daggerfall and were bitten by a wereboar, you were a wereboar. Werelions are quite rare compared to werebears and werewolves and there's probably never been a sighting of one in Skyrim.

Werelions are found around Elswyer and some other province. Forgot which one.

You can sneak as a werewolf, but TES werewolves don't really rely on animals as food from what we've seen. They prey on the races that have enough intelligence to be considered fairly civilized. This is how they work in all the TES games gameplay wise, anyways. I'm sure were creatures can prey on wildlife and live off that, but it seems unlikely for now.

I get irked when people say Khajiit should turn into werecats. Sorry...
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:28 pm

According to one of the books in the game Skyrim is supposed to have many more werewolves as well as werebears. Wereboars are High Rock but according to the author the nords claim that there are tons of werecreatures mostly werewolves and werebears.
I believe there are even werevultures or some wort of bird like "were". I could be wrong of course.
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:24 pm

I believe there are even werevultures or some wort of bird like "were". I could be wrong of course.
You're correct. Werevultures are found around Valenwood, I believe.
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:28 am

I didn't mean they should turn into Werecats. The post actually isn't as specific as I meant. What I meant was that Khajit's are in essence Werecats, on observation of course. There is actually a detailed story behind their origin. I feel their should be a race tree for each one. The Khajit in essence look half human, half cat. Werecat. Werelion I was unaware of.
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:59 pm

On the subject of the Alpha wolf thing, we're getting a perk tree, and the there's plenty that you can do in the vanilla game that will make you the alpha wolf already. Just because vampires are getting vampire lord forms, it doesn't mean that the werewolves should get anymore than the perk tree that we are getting. With the werewolf perk tree, we shouldn't have too much trouble fighting any vampire lords, so we should be happy where we are. The whole vampire vs werewolf thing is pretty silly anyway, since vampires and werewolves weren't even enemies before the 21st century.
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:18 pm

With the totems of hircine, the ring of hircine, and a perk tree to boost the wolf, I'd say they are making you an alpha wolf. As someone else said its confirmed that summoning werewolves will be a perk (I wasn't aware of this but it seems likely and i'll take his word) its proof enough that likely all the totems will get their boosts. So you can choose from a variety of powers for a werewolf.
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:54 pm

They deal 80 damage at the moment at the highest level, with these new perks that add 25% to damage at rank one, it can be assumed that it's 100% at rank 4.. Which results in 160 damage wolf attacks, which is x2 or x3 from their rapid power attacks. They are going to be very strong.

I believe that you've got it a tad wrong. I think the damage increase is 25% at the 4th rank.
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:57 am

The whole vampire vs werewolf thing is pretty silly anyway, since vampires and werewolves weren't even enemies before the 21st century.

Van Helsing was mid 20th century. So not entirely true. :ermm:
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:13 am

On the subject of the Alpha wolf thing, we're getting a perk tree, and the there's plenty that you can do in the vanilla game that will make you the alpha wolf already. Just because vampires are getting vampire lord forms, it doesn't mean that the werewolves should get anymore than the perk tree that we are getting. With the werewolf perk tree, we shouldn't have too much trouble fighting any vampire lords, so we should be happy where we are. The whole vampire vs werewolf thing is pretty silly anyway, since vampires and werewolves weren't even enemies before the 21st century.
World of Darkness had the werewolves vs. vampires thing and the game was created in the 20th century. There was also a few movies that had Dracula and the Wolfman not being allies from the 1930's or 1940's. It's a silly thing, but it isn't from the 21st century. It's the result of fanservice movies that Universial released during the 30's and 40's. The days when monster movies were where it was at when it came to horror.
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:28 am

I have a divorce here for you here is how i divorced my wife in skyrim and arrow to the knee :banana:
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:13 am

World of Darkness had the werewolves vs. vampires thing and the game was created in the 20th century. There was also a few movies that had Dracula and the Wolfman not being allies from the 1930's or 1940's. It's a silly thing, but it isn't from the 21st century. It's the result of fanservice movies that Universial released during the 30's and 40's. The days when monster movies were where it was at when it came to horror.

Not really familiar with World of Darkness (sounds interesting), and I have seen the Dracula vs Wolfman fights, but I mean as a race (in lore), vampires and werewolves aren't historically enemies. In most of the old myths, the only time a werewolf and a vampire were even related was when there was a werewolf who was a vampire. In the few myths that involve both creatures, they were usually hybrids. There are also myths where a person who became a werewolf in life would become a vampire in death. I'm not saying current vampire vs werewolf lore holds no weight, I'm just saying that it they aren't always enemies.
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:43 am

Van Helsing was mid 20th century. So not entirely true. :ermm:

Abraham Van Helsing never became a werewolf. You may be getting him confused with Gabriel Van Helsing from the movie several years ago, who didn't exist before that movie. Gabriel Van Helsing is very loosely based on Abraham.
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:07 am

Abraham Van Helsing never became a werewolf. You may be getting him confused with Gabriel Van Helsing from the movie several years ago, who didn't exist before that movie. Gabriel Van Helsing is very loosely based on Abraham.

Indeed I was. My bad. :sweat:
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:57 pm

I think with the the new perk tree coming that you could consider yourself an alpha. Cant wait any longer to get it!
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:29 am

I didn't mean they should turn into Werecats. The post actually isn't as specific as I meant. What I meant was that Khajit's are in essence Werecats, on observation of course. There is actually a detailed story behind their origin. I feel their should be a race tree for each one. The Khajit in essence look half human, half cat. Werecat. Werelion I was unaware of.

There is a sub-race of the Khajiit, known as the "Senche-raht" that are essentially Weretigers more or less, just without Lycanthropy. Here's their description.
"Larger and slower than the Senche, the Senche-raht are also possessed of a shorter body-span and straighter legs. The average Senche-raht stands as tall as two Altmer and can weigh as much or more than fifty. Like the Senche, Senche-raht are also employed as steeds, notably in battle, whence they earned the title "battlecats" from Imperial troopers."

In the "Infernal City" TES Novel by Grey Keyes, there are a few Senche-raht Khajiit in it, and they actually take on a few Werebears in Hircine's Realm and kill them. They then devour the innards of one of the Werebears. Wonder if they caught Lycanthropy from that? Didn't matter though, since they were killed by Hircine himself and his pack of Hounds (Werewolves).

The whole vampire vs werewolf thing is pretty silly anyway, since vampires and werewolves weren't even enemies before the 21st century.
The only piece of lore that supports any amount of conflict between Vampires and Lycanthropes in TES, is that Vampires find the taste of Lycanthrope blood, the mixture of man and beast, to be delicious.
"Orcs have a delicious, rich brothy blood; rats are a little sweet for the only meal of the night; werewolves are a real treat, almost decadent the tincture between human and beast. A real gourmet's delight."

I believe that you've got it a tad wrong. I think the damage increase is 25% at the 4th rank.
Nope. It's +25% Damage at the first rank.
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:21 am

But wouldnt it be nice if you had some perks in normal form too.Like if your a alpha werewolf you should get like extra 50 stamina .25 % to sneak and .25% immune all elements magic. Thats what I'm talking about as alpha wolf. Gets a few extra abliltys and a lycan castle would be great to just like vampire lord gets. Alpha werewolf would come with castle filled with lower lycans he or she controlls.
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:43 am

There should of been lunar transformations in the game. But as for the alpha werewolf, well, there should of been at least a pack. Sure, Aela welcomed you by saying you were "born into the pack", but the Companions are more warrior than true warriors of the wild. Out of all of them, only Aela is in touch with her Lycanthropy, poor Skjor had died.
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:11 am

Nope. It's +25% Damage at the first rank.

I stand corrected. Although, it will probably have a 5% increase per level then.
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:14 am

I believe that you've got it a tad wrong. I think the damage increase is 25% at the 4th rank.
It wouldn't be 25% increase at rank four..

The E3 video showed clearly the first perk, 1 out of four was +25%. From that we can assume that it increases by 25% to a maximum of +100%.
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:51 am

It wouldn't be 25% increase at rank four..

The E3 video showed clearly the first perk, 1 out of four was +25%. From that we can assume that it increases by 25% to a maximum of +100%.

Like I said, "I stand corrected."
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