Inittially i thought this game was amazing. However i just can't see me replaying this game after i max my level cap. Would i really want to re-roll another character and do the same dungeons/visit the same places?

The Lore of the game doesn't interest me. I've tried to read these books scattered around BUT most of them don't make much sense and i simply find them boring. They just seem to cater for the hardcoe LORE types.

Having to fast-run constantly back to whiterun and visiting different vendors to sell my items is getting rather tedious. Half of them have hardly any gold also.

Looting all the time and getting the same items time and time again also is getting boring.

The interface is terrible for PC users. Constantly pausing game to equip etc. It breaks up gameplay. Lack of character info screen also means you can't see wtf is equipped or not.

Graphics look great in some areas then become like Oblivions in others. It seems like the developers thought give areas around whiterun the best appeal as thats the first place you set foot in.

And to make matters worth i heard you can get the best armour/weopon in the game with 8000 gold and smithing. So whats the point of adventuring? Kills the idea of questing for the golden fleece.


Just my tuppence worth

I am only doing certain things with one character like only doing certain factions. Then when I make another I will do other factions that appeal most to my character's style.

Yeah, this. I don't like it though. In OB and MW I wanted to do everything.

This is a common feeling check the internet many people are already playing this game only marginally, or have shelved it waiting for modders (those who can).

just wondering if your aware that you can assign hotkeys (1-9) from your favorites list... dont have to pause the game. And a side note, reaching max level will take a very long time. Think its 81 or something.

Solution: Don't do everything in one playthrough. Don't use jack of all trade characters.

I've got at least three more plays lined up after this one.

To me, this seems symptomatic of the decreased complexity/streamlined product/whatever you want to call it that is typical of every new Bethesda release.

They've gone for increased accessibility at the cost of complexity. In my opinion this will always reduce any impetus to replay the game, for me at least.

I'm just glad they keep releasing their modding tools, and that the modding community born with Morrowind is still going strong.

What about dragon shouts? They're some of the most powerful abilities in the game, and can only be gotten by travelling the world and finding Dragon burial sites or raiding dungeons.

Besides, how is the smithing thing relevant? If you haven't mastered smithing yet then knowing what you can do with it is no help. If you have, then just use the best armour you can make and turn the difficulty up where that kind of protection matters. Soon I'll be making my fourth new game, and I'm still not bored.

To the OP. Sounds more like Skyim is not the sort of game for you. What do you normally play?

Likewise. My first character was a pure nord warrior, he had a strict sense of honour and justice so no thieving or killing innocent people which meant I only joined the companions. Leaving Dark Brotherhood and Theives Guild to my Bosmer Archer who doesn't care about anything really and only in it for profit.

Having made 3 diferent chars, i can assure that there is a big random factor to the game. Quests change location and objective, and dungeons get populated with diferent kind of enemies.

Example: The first companion quest, i had it once to be killing vampires in a cave, and another time bandits in a hold.

I would suggest that you dont. Dont use fasttravel to loot and sell. You'll get som much money its not fun anymore. Play it a bit more realistically and only travel from city to city with horse and carrage. Walk more.

I don't think any game can keep up with people who blast through a new game with over 100 hours of content in 5 days. Not counting multiplayer ofc but that's a different kind of game. If you threat Skyrim like wow (defeat all bosses as fast as possible, get best loot, min/max skills) it sure going to disappoint I thi9nk.

I could probably play this game for a year or more like I did oblivion. I love the freedom and I enjoy being able to do goofy things in the game world. Just have fun with it. I feel as if people are just rushing through the game when I dont think thats how it was intended to be played. Just have fun. Too many people are looking for everything wrong with the game without enjoying the good. Which in my opinion is everything haha

Well if you play the game through once, get your 30-50 hours of entertainment out of it and enjoyed the game the first time through, I mean to me thats a successful game and the developer has done his job in my book. In the case of Skyrim I have already put in about 25 hours and I estimate Im about 1/10th of the way through it so I will probobly clock about 100 hours to complete it. Im not sure if Im going to be up for another play through right away but I find that when I finish a great game, if it really was great I am very likely to go back to it at some later date when some DLC's, Expansions and/or mods come out for it.

But what your talking about, the feeling of repetition, that happens to most gamers I think and it happens for all games. You can only play the same game so much before its played out. I love Skyrim, I think its been a great game so far and I look forward to my evenings with it, but than again I think unlike many gamers I don't game every day and I don't game that much in a single sitting ordinarly. Skyrim kind of appeared at an idea time in my schedule so I have been able to play it a lot more than I ordinarly would be able to play games. I mean 25 hours.. thats usually a month worth of gaming for me and a game like Skyrim would oridarly take me 4-5 months to actually finish. For 50 bucks thats a great deal.

I'm determined to avoid arbitrary fast travelling in my next playthrough, as well as magic. I've intended for my character to be a warrior/hunter type without magical aptitude who, as a survivalist, will do whatever it takes to keep himself alive and well fed; this includes morally reprehensible actions. However, the fact I couldn't find enough ingredients early for alchemy meant that I've been relying on the crutch of the healing spell

My next playthrough will be with the same character (I have a save in helgan keep), but instead I think I'll take a little time levelling my smithing skills and gathering ingredients before setting off to Whiterun, and level other attributes before leaving for High Hrothgar. Taking that bit of extra time to prepare before a lengthy journey will mean I have the tools to stay alive without falling back on restoration magic.

I think that they are only doing this because they are trying to appeal to a broader range of players, when in fact they should be making their games a little more in depth to cater to those who enjoy the RPG genre. Like you said I am glad that there is a strong modding community here which is the main reason why I purchased the PC version and not the console version. Most of the people I see who aren't enjoying this game are the ones who are rushing through and trying to complete the game in record time when they should be slowing down and enjoying everything that this world has to offer.

I am on the side of RPing my characters so there is no jack of all trades for me unless I decide to create one in the future (meh). I have always enjoyed the Elder Scrolls games because of their unique leveling system and I would hate to see that get stripped away because they are trying to "dumb things down". Anyways, that's enough chat for now I'm off to play this wonderful game.

Not one bit. I am still hyped about the game

The appeal of my current character is ebbing, not the game. Skyrim is the first TES game which I think had instant appeal, it took me ages to get into Oblivion and Morrowind whereas I enjoyed Skyrim from like the opening scene.

The problem I'm having is that the numbers that are assigned to the hot keys keep disappearing for some reason. Half the time in a dungeon, when I have to switch from the bow to a sword, I have to hit Q (PC user) to bring up the Favorite menu and manually select the item and reassign the number. By that time the enemy is already in melee range and I'm getting beat upon.

Hoping for a fix soon sigh.

Basically from what you have posted, your joy is in finding new items and or exploring, so once you do that yes, the game really wont appeal to you to play until its been modded. I can understand where your coming from, For me, i find that the stories, books, and quests are better in skyrim so its more interesting for me to play through. Overall i agree though, the game has been simplified far to much, certain skills are completely unbalancing, and some skills are completely useless. Skyrim is a good game, but it has flaws, and its over slimplified, where it could add depth in areas to make the game more interesting and increase playability. Game balance is pretty poor overall, and the lack of ability to become a specialist in weapons is annoying, along with advanced skills which are much needed for gameplay reasons as well as depth. All that said, i still enjoy the game, but it will be up to modders to put the time in to correct its many flaws, and create a finished top quality product, just like it has been with every beth game since morrowind.

Morrowind and Oblivion had instant appeal too, yesn't? I think the complaints came later, e.g., when ppl realised the 'levelling problems' in O.

Then don't do that. Play a poor guy that doesn't loot. It'll make the game more challenging the second time you play it.

I guess you don't know you actually can hotkey items. Open up the favorites menu (Q) hover over an item and press a number.

I guess you're talking about design preferences here. Technically the Whiterun area isn't any more advanced than other areas. Have you been to the south-east yet?

Than don't buy fancy armor, but rely on finding it. I don't see why this is an issue. I mean, you can also use the console commands to get the best gear. That also kills the idea of questing for it. But you don't do that, because it spoils your fun.

Some people seem to forget that it's YOU that's in control of your game. This isn't an MMO in which you need to compete with others and become as strong as possible as quickly as possible. If you hate the fact you can exploit certain features, then don't exploit them. If you find looting or collecting herbs tedious, stop doing it. I know, games should be balanced and Beth should fix some issues, but until then it's you that makes your gaming experience tick.

Not I. I'm going to squeeze the life out of Skyrim with at least three playthroughs and the first alone might be 300 hours.

I can see myself playing for atleast 500+ hours. Hell I got over 250 hours on one save in ESIV. Simply put, don't do EVERYTHING on one character. I got 55 hours played so far. Only just beat the Main Story (because the story got pretty good and I didn't want to stop ) But I only cleared maybe 10 medium sized dungeons so far and a few small forts. Did about 20 quests (counting chain quests as one quest btw). There's so much you can get out of Bathesda games. Take your time, explore and immerse yourself. If you're making a melee character, focus on quests, perks, exploration, etc etc that favour melee and so on and so forth with other "class" types. I forsake all magic and ranged on my Nord Barbarian so dragon fights (on expert/master) become longer and more challenging. Hell even caster mini bosses you really have to plan it out. For us die hard ES fans, it won't surprise me at all seeing some of us (myself included) sporting total gameplay times of 500+ hours which is absolutely amazing for a 60$ game

Like others said before:

-Don't be the jack of all trades character (make him/her your final character)
-Immerse yourself into the story/surroundings. Essentially create your own story (still some problems with npcs not recognizing certain... achievements)
-Don't do EVERYTHING on a single play through. That's probably where you will lose most of the "appeal"
-Play the game on atleast one character as expert/master and some others on a lower settings so you can be that over powered SOB
-Explore
-Divide the quests evenly. My current barbarian is a true Nord and sided with the rebellion. So I mainly focused quests in Whiterun and Windhelm and areas surrounding it.

Think of it as eating this really delicious cake, or some other desert you love. Instead of eating it in one sitting and having that upset stomach and feelings of being bloated, cut it down into smaller servings and savour it.