The negative opinions on Skyrim are now becoming epidemic, which has led me to open a thread which asks the question... can Open World RPGs continue, or do they need to evolve in a way that encompasses all the continuity of a linear RPG but still be allowed to roam free and design your own unique character at the same time? Is this even possible? I think it is, but it takes a lot of time. One thing I will say though, people harp on about Morrowind, but was it all that different, or have we become too hard to please?

It's ironic though, despite a feeling that Skyrim is now seen as a failure, it'll probably still comfortably be the most popular game in the last five years?

I don't see skyrim as a failure even in the slightest. People are just so damn ignorant.

Skyrim's amazing, but it still feels linar in certain aspects.

http://www.metacritic.com/search/all/skyrim/results reviews of Skyrim from critics and non-critics alike, the overwhelming result is positive. PS3 got screwed and thats partially Beths fault and partially the way the PS3 is build (split memory is the main problem it seems)

Way more people still see it as a success as the people that see it as a failure. The people that don't like things (and this can be said for anything) are just way way more vocal about it.

This. The PS3 version has utterly destroyed any positive remarks from most of that consumer base.

Me neither, I was playing devil's advocate, although I think you realised that. It's an amazing game, though I do agree with some of the criticism.

I always thought it was people who complain about every little thing. I understand why the Morrowind players complain(about lack of complexity, ect.) but some people just complain for the point of it. It gets really annoying.
To be honest though, a game like Skyrim is fine the way it is. It might be linear here and there but it's mosly not.

It is the squeaky wheel that gets the grease. Skyrim is not broken it has issues, some glaring, some mundane, but many of the so called “issues” are just matters of personal preference. The title of this thread is needlessly inflammatory and ultimately in my opinion asks a question that can’t be answered without the discussion devolving in to conjecture based on personal opinion.

I don't have any problems, a week ago was the last time the game lagged for me. It's easily the best game to be published for the PS3 ever.

Your first statement is just completely false and purely your own opinion...so no, they are far from dead. In fact I'd say that since Morrowind they only gained popularity and will continue to do so.

Well any good company with experience across multiple platforms like BGS, has no excuse for an oversight like that. They did not optimize the game well for PC or PS3 users and that is why so many of them are pissed. If you are on 360 do not presume to comment on those of us who got routinely shafted by BGS with every subsequent patch. You are the spoiled group. They catered specifically to you and left the rest of us with in many cases nearly broken and unplayable games that are either still unplayable or required community fixes in the case of the PC, whether or not that is a smaller or bigger amount is irrelevant. It is still by far too high an amount of broken games. Now almost a full month after release the issues are getting addressed that should have been addressed pre-launch. Bethesda deserves more negative reviews for that BS. It is not acceptable from a major company. Besides Critics are for the most part payed off it would seem. Not that Skyrim is a bad game but it has many issues. Many critics have had their palms greased.

No it wasn't meant to be inflammatory, although I can see how it could end up that way. But based on the complaints I've seen over the last month, I'm just wondering if the problem stems from whether people aren't sure whether they want open world RPGs or whether they prefer the story driven micro level games such as Dragon Age, or whether there should be a compromise between the two formats? If it ends up inflamatory, then people aren't mature enough to have a good debate about it?

Get away from the forums for awhile and you will lose that "Skyrim is a failure" feeling.

Skyrim is a great game and like all great gamesit has some minor bugs that need tweaking.

I would say PC is the spoiled group with the CK and fist patches and better support in general, but what do I know Im a poor lowly console player :sadvaultboy:

And yet, it still holds a 93% Positive on Metacritic.

Grossing 400 million dollars in 2 days, and you ask if this will die? You must be mentally challenged.

Hell no. WTF? Just because some gamers make unrealistic demands that Beth shouldn't have to cater to, doesn't mean it's a failure. So... NO, NO, NO.

Skyrim has been a commercial and critical success. Also, open world and RPG elements seem to be more popular than they were were before, if games like GTA5 and Deus Ex are anything to go by.

yep, the casual market for games has grown and now your typical gamer is an ADHD having mouth breather who is struggling to make it out of Algerbra 2.

The people on this forum is a VERY small percentage of the people who play this game, and i'm sure most are loving it.

It's all gone 99% casual.

So yeah, if not already, it WILL die out very soon.

From critics... most of whom probably barely played any of the PS3 version, if at all (Bethesda didn't even send any out), and just copied their 360 review...



Metacritic's user review average is currently at 56% for the PS3 version.

Skyrim is the most successful TES game. The complainers on this forum represent a tiny minority of the Skyrim playerbase.

You think it's unrealistic to demand that when the game installs itself, it's playable? In my case, for 4 days my bow didn't work for my assassin/thief/bow user. The in-game help file said to use the R key to pull back on the bowstring and let got at max pullback. When I did that, the arrow flew for about 4-5 feet and then fell on the ground.

You know for how many different actions the R key is used by PCs in this game? Shooting bows wasn't one, but when the in-game helpfile tells you this, and it doesn't work, yeah I demand some answers/help.

What happened is that the game assigned random keys to random actions when it installed itself. After 4 days another player mentioned setting the keys to default, and that solved the problem, and also change the in-game help file to the correct wordage - i.e., use the mouse key to pull back the bowstring.

But, not a word of help from the company.

Oh, and now three times in the past 5 days, my companion has lost her weapons - both the bow and sword. No idea what happened - they're just gone.

And let's not talk about patch 1.2 that screwed up things for a lot of people.

Despite this, and a few other minor issues, I think this is a great game, and will play it happily for a few years (I hope). But Bethesda is not as good as they used to be, in my opinion. And I thought EA was bad.

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