Argonian in LegionStormcloaks.

Post » Sun May 13, 2012 3:07 pm

You know what a [censored] answer is? When someone replies to a question with, "It's a single player game. Do whatever you want."

That is my pet peeve right there. If he knew what he wanted to do he wouldn't be asking for help!

Anyway, I think you'd be better off with the Stormcloaks. The Imperials are total control freaks. Even if the beast races lose either way, you could do the selfless thing and help those living in Skyrim break away from a tyrannical goverment. Even if you lose either way, you may as well help someone win. I don't think that's a possibility with the Imperials. Besides, Ulfric will probably warm up to you. Think of it as playing a woman in New Vegas and joining the Legion. Caesar may have been sixist, but he made an exception for you.
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Connor Wing
 
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 2:14 am

Argonians are disgusting, smelly creatures with no sense of class.

Consider yourself lucky you're not working a plantation, or waiting to be sold to some Telvanni mage.

N'wah.
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laila hassan
 
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 3:24 pm

Ulfric's a racist punk. I joined the Legion.

I wouldn't call him racist. He just dislikes elves, for good reason.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 1:01 am

I wouldn't call him racist. He just dislikes elves, for good reason.
Racism is never justified. Don't care who did what to him in his past, an entire race doesn't carry the blame for it.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 9:24 pm

My Argonian character joined the Legion.
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Veronica Martinez
 
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 1:42 am

Racism is never justified. Don't care who did what to him in his past, an entire race doesn't carry the blame for it.

Wasn't it you who agreed to a comment stating that Nords are racist scum?

Hypocrite. :/
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 6:44 pm

Racism is never justified. Don't care who did what to him in his past, an entire race doesn't carry the blame for it.

His comments show a disdain for the Thalmor more than anything else. If he hated elves, then he wouldn't allow them in his city - yes confining them in a certain area is bad but then again this is for their own protection also.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 7:14 am

I'm an Argonian too.
I joined the Stormcloaks because they're rebellious tough guys.
Didn't care that they thought odd of an Argonian.


EDIT: Also, I love Nords' strong, barbaric ways despite their racism.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 10:40 pm

Wasn't it you who agreed to a comment stating that Nords are racist scum?

Hypocrite. :/

You got me there, I generalized them a bit. I should've said Stormcloaks are racist scum as quite a few Nords seem to be more tolerant.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 5:24 pm

So I have an Argonian character as my first character. I am really wanting to get in on the Imperial/Stormcloak conflict, but since I am an Argonian I can't help but feel I do not fit in anywhere...Argonians are more or less treated like crap in Windhelm by Stormcloaks, and the legion seems a bit too formal for an Argonian...

Does an Argonian have a place on either side? Like I said, I want to get it on this but I may just have to make a Nord character or something, which I don't particularly want to do, but won't spoil the questline if an Argonian makes no sense at all.

As an Orc, I joined the Legion. I think the Orsimer are the least favored race. Sure, the Dunmer and Argonians may hate each other, and the Bosmer with Khajit, and so on, but probably every race would site the Orcs as second most hated/feared/distrusted. The Legion, being guided by duty, utilitarianism, and meritocracy gave the Orcs the chance to prove their worth, and provided the stepping stone to (grudging) acceptance by the citizens of the Empire. Though the other races, and even the average Imperial may dislike us, the Imperial Elites know our value. Maybe the Argonians could hope for something similar? Though I suppose your character may not have any special loyalty to his race.

Plus, to address your specific question: (very minor spoiler) "Your talents would be wasted as a regular soldier..." Or something like that. You are more of a special agent, less of a disciplined, clean cut-type.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 5:01 am

My Orc wants to preserve the Empire (partly for the reasons stated in the post above, actually. How cool.), so he joined the Legion. I had a Bosmer who wanted the Empire to fall, so he joined the Stormcloaks, just for the sake of fighting the Empire. That's how I roleplay this situation. :]
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 5:06 pm

Ulfric Stormcloak is no racist.

He allowed the Dunmer people sanctuary in his hold.

Nords just tend to be abit less receiving towards members of different races. Notably mer.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 5:38 pm

Argonians are disgusting, smelly creatures with no sense of class.

Consider yourself lucky you're not working a plantation, or waiting to be sold to some Telvanni mage.

N'wah.
It's ironic that the last living Telvanni was raised by Argonians
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 4:00 am

You got me there, I generalized them a bit. I should've said Stormcloaks are racist scum as quite a few Nords seem to be more tolerant.

I'm a Nord, and I defended that Dunmer from those racist [censored]s when I came into Windhelm. I also beleive in what Ulfric and the Stormcloaks are fighting for. I don't beleive that Ralof in the beginning ever made any racist comments either. In fact, he helps you, no matter what race you are. But no matter how you view the Stormcloaks, the Empire is still trying to end an entire civilizations way of life, and ban their culture and beliefs. To me that's wrong.

Also did Ulfric even do anything worth getting executed over? He challenged the High King and he accepted. He lost, so he obviously wan't a fit king to begin with.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 4:40 am

Argonians are disgusting, smelly creatures with no sense of class.

Consider yourself lucky you're not working a plantation, or waiting to be sold to some Telvanni mage.

N'wah.
Fine talk from someone whose homeland was utterly annihilated by a meteor and a volcano.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 11:32 pm

Fine talk from someone whose homeland was utterly annihilated by a meteor and a volcano.
Ever met the Dunmer named Brand-Shei in Riften? He has an interesting backstory and side-quest.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 6:09 pm

Ulfric Stormcloak is no racist.

He allowed the Dunmer people sanctuary in his hold.

Nords just tend to be abit less receiving towards members of different races. Notably mer.

Actually, now that you mention it, maybe Ulfric has crammed the elves and beast races because of the other Nords racism. Ulfric needs as many people on his side as possible, so he cant risk a rebellion in his own hold.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 5:07 am

I'm a Nord, and I defended that Dunmer from those racist [censored]s when I came into Windhelm. I also beleive in what Ulfric and the Stormcloaks are fighting for. I don't beleive that Ralof in the beginning ever made any racist comments either. In fact, he helps you, no matter what race you are. But no matter how you view the Stormcloaks, the Empire is still trying to end an entire civilizations way of life, and ban their culture and beliefs. To me that's wrong.

Also did Ulfric even do anything worth getting executed over? He challenged the High King and he accepted. He lost, so he obviously wan't a fit king to begin with.


100% agreed!

Ulfric isn't a racist as most people claim. He is trying his damnedest to keep his people together. I initially sided with the Imperials, wish I hadn't though... Long live High King Ulfric! Long live the Stormcloaks!
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 9:22 pm

100% agreed!

Ulfric isn't a racist as most people claim. He is trying his damnedest to keep his people together. I initially sided with the Imperials, wish I hadn't though... Long live High King Ulfric! Long live the Stormcloaks!

I knew I'd be joining the Stormcloaks when I met Ralof. He's my brother in arms damnit! His voice vaguely reminds me of Ezio...
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 5:40 pm

I chose Stormcloak simply because I hate the Legion with a passion in Skyrim.

"Captain, this guy isn't on our list of ACTUAL criminals, what should we do?"

"Lol, let's just kill him anyway!!!!!!!11111oneeleven"

Yeah, sometime after the Oblivion Crisis, the Imperial Legion became Caesar's Legion.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 12:39 am

So I have an Argonian character as my first character. I am really wanting to get in on the Imperial/Stormcloak conflict, but since I am an Argonian I can't help but feel I do not fit in anywhere...Argonians are more or less treated like crap in Windhelm by Stormcloaks, and the legion seems a bit too formal for an Argonian...

Does an Argonian have a place on either side? Like I said, I want to get it on this but I may just have to make a Nord character or something, which I don't particularly want to do, but won't spoil the questline if an Argonian makes no sense at all.

Same here with my Wood Elf. The High Elves that run the legion look down on me, and when I'm with the Stormcloaks (Who I joined), before every battle they scream "Skyrim is for the nords!". My Bosmer doesn't feel much love, so he has to wear a full faced Dragon Priest helmet to hide his elvish identity around the stormcloaks.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 4:35 pm

I chose Stormcloak simply because I hate the Legion with a passion in Skyrim.

"Captain, this guy isn't on our list of ACTUAL criminals, what should we do?"

"Lol, let's just kill him anyway!!!!!!!11111oneeleven"

Yeah, sometime after the Oblivion Crisis, the Imperial Legion became Caesar's Legion.

I have to admit though, I did like the guy who was reading the list. He generally felt bad about you being executed. Although one good person in the Legion doesn't change the whole system. He was good, but the Legion still has a torture chamber, the Legion still tries to execute an innocent person, the Legion is still banning the worship of Talos, and the Legion is still only giving it's citizens half the truth.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 2:40 am

I'm a Nord, and I defended that Dunmer from those racist [censored]s when I came into Windhelm. I also beleive in what Ulfric and the Stormcloaks are fighting for. I don't beleive that Ralof in the beginning ever made any racist comments either. In fact, he helps you, no matter what race you are. But no matter how you view the Stormcloaks, the Empire is still trying to end an entire civilizations way of life, and ban their culture and beliefs. To me that's wrong.

Also did Ulfric even do anything worth getting executed over? He challenged the High King and he accepted. He lost, so he obviously wan't a fit king to begin with.

Interesting last point, somehow it have never occured to me to question this. I suppose from the Nords point of view your are right, though he gets no respect from me for using the Voice as a trick weapon. Sure, I dont feel bad using it on Bandits, or Stormcloak rebel scum, but then again, I haven't sworn an oath of fealty to them...

However, he is not fighting against just the other Jarls, but the Empire is as well. I think the Emperor is legally justified in ordering the execution of a traitor.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 8:54 pm

I'm joining the Stormcloaks. My Argonian is an assassin, and I feel his talents fit better with the Stormcloaks. Ulfric isn't that bad. He's been nice to my Argonian, and it seems his racism he has is something that can be ignored. The rebellious Nords make up for it, and proud to fight next to. While maybe a touchy anology, I feel like my Argonian is like the black soldiers in the American Civil War. Maybe not the most respected, but the soldiers know this man could end up saving your life. You just have to put differences aside.

The Legion on the other hand has outlawed praying to Talos (my Argonian's favored God), and they treat everyone like crap,not just the Khajjit and Argonians. Also add I rescued a Stormcloak soldier that was captured by the Legion, and I felt great about it. The Legion deserved it.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 2:52 pm

Interesting last point, somehow it have never occured to me to question this. I suppose from the Nords point of view your are right, though he gets no respect from me for using the Voice as a trick weapon. Sure, I dont feel bad using it on Bandits, or Stormcloak rebel scum, but then again, I haven't sworn an oath of fealty to them...

However, he is not fighting against just the other Jarls, but the Empire is as well. I think the Emperor is legally justified in ordering the execution of a traitor.

It may seem unfair to use The Voice as a secret weapon, but I don't see it that way. My Shouts are my secret weapon, but giants are still able to kick my ass. The Voice doesn't make you undefeatable. If the High King had some real skill, he would've won anyway. Like those damned giants do over and over again... XD

And is it hard to see why there's a rebellion coming up? The Legion is destroying these peoples culture.
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