Atmora snow elf theory.

Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:59 pm

Okay, i know this is gonna sound stupid but hear me out. From what Ive come across about snow elves and elves in general is that they can be smart, sneaky and good with magic, yes? Well what if some snow elves didnt just hide in skyrim infact maybe even tamrilel during the nordic rampage on skyrim, If the primitave nedes can sail from Atmora to Skyrim then why couldnt the Snow elves sail to Atmora? Now I know that theres a few problems with this theory such as: "the snow elves wouldnt be able to sneak a whole load ships past the nords", well since we know that the snow elves were talented mages why couldnt they somehow hide a few ships at a time with either an invisibity spell or somehow mannipulating mist/fog to hide them.
I think that maybe hearthfire might be something to do with either Atmora or snow elves so this is just one idea about what might happen, what are your thoughts on this?
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:10 pm

Atmora is an even less hospitable land than skyrim and is almost completely devoid of any form of life ; that's why the first Nedic people fled it; I don't see the point of sailing to Atmora. And I hope we don't get Atmora as DLC since there won't be much to do there , I'd rather have Pyandomea or Akavir
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:35 pm

Actually, I'm hoping your right OP. I have a hard time seeing that we would be traveling to Akavir or Pyandonea in a game that takes place in the northern-most province. And personally, I can see a group of snow elves traveling to Atmora. Think of the possibilities we could see there. Structures that have been frozen in time for thousands of years, ancient peoples, ancient magic...good possibilities
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:31 pm

Elder Scrolls Wiki : "Expeditions to Atmora in modern times describe a place of permanent winter, with little life and no sign of human habitation" ! So no ruins , no dungeons (apart from caves). The environment would just be like winterhold hold, with loads of pack ice (i like that area but a whole expansion of it? Maybe not

Plus this DLC has already talked about Snow elves, I expect Bethesda to focus on something else for the next expansion

Why not an exotic island ? I know it would seem weird but it would be so refreshing (ha-ha), that's what the developers want ! I think it could be done, since they won't add another province of Tamriel, and probably not another realm of oblivion because it would become boring (putting a plane of oblivion in every DLC, coolio)

Plus little to nothing is known about those continents imagine the LOOOORE we would be getting !
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:52 pm

Ok, but geographically, look at the areas surrounding skyrim. Pyandonea is far to the southwest. Wouldn't that best be saved for a Tes that is set in a southern province like Elsweyr or Black Marsh? Roscrea could be an option, seeing as its an island and could have a foreign culture feel. Also, I know some people have been mentioned Orsinium but I digress.
I feel that there has to be a bit more to Atmora than the imperial cartographers found last they went. And what other opportunity will we have to explore it than now? No other province is as close to it than Skyrim and quite frankly, I would be sad to see an opportunity like this given up. I will admit that going somewhere alien along the lines of SI would be nice, but who knows what the devs could come up with regarding Atmora.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:05 pm

I don't know it just seems weird that the snow elves would travel to atmora in the first place... The lore says there's nothing but maybe they'll change stuff around ...
Orsinium is in Skyrim so that would be possible but for a smaller expansion maybe ? I don't know , or maybe a return to Solstheim ?

I'm personally fed up with planes of Oblivion !
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:26 am


I'm personally fed up with planes of Oblivion !

This, we can agree on. I don't necessarily mind if a dlc has to do with a daedric prince, like Bloodmoon did. And in all honesty, I wouldn't mind seeing Solstheim again. I know a lot of people would be against that though and I can understand why.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:01 pm

To Montblanc I see your point on how expeditions to atmora have not found anything but remember that Atmora is very large and is infact a continent in itself, so I doubt all of Atmora was explored, and if you were fleeing a large race of genocidal brutes and you werery hiding quite close to their country I'd go as far as i could from there so they probably went very far north and I they might have been able to survive there for a while until they adapted to the hard conditions and it would be easier for them to adapt to the extreme conditions seeing as they lived in skyrim so they could probably last longer than most other tamrielic races. Plus seeing as the Dwemer could live underground and survive quite easily underground so snow elves could probably survive just as well seeing as they would be more advanced than early dwemer when they went underground. Plus they could survive under there for a long time slowly bolstering there forces until they could find a way to easily survive on the surface. Also if a snow elf like arch curate vryther could change a prophecy from an elder scroll I think they could probably find a way to heat up a small area of atmora with magic.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:34 pm

This, we can agree on. I don't necessarily mind if a dlc has to do with a daedric prince, like Bloodmoon did. And in all honesty, I wouldn't mind seeing Solstheim again. I know a lot of people would be against that though and I can understand why.

Why wouldn't people want to see it again (no sarcasm I don't know the reasons :P) ? I mean lots of people wanted to see morrowind and oblivion revamped (haha i'm the king of puns)


To Montblanc I see your point on how expeditions to atmora have not found anything but remember that Atmora is very large and is infact a continent in itself, so I doubt all of Atmora was explored, and if you were fleeing a large race of genocidal brutes and you werery hiding quite close to their country I'd go as far as i could from there so they probably went very far north and I they might have been able to survive there for a while until they adapted to the hard conditions and it would be easier for them to adapt to the extreme conditions seeing as they lived in skyrim so they could probably last longer than most other tamrielic races. Plus seeing as the Dwemer could live underground and survive quite easily underground so snow elves could probably survive just as well seeing as they would be more advanced than early dwemer when they went underground. Plus they could survive under there for a long time slowly bolstering there forces until they could find a way to easily survive on the surface. Also if a snow elf like arch curate vryther could change a prophecy from an elder scroll I think they could probably find a way to heat up a small area of atmora with magic.

Well your explanations could be valuable I mean there's always a way to get around the lore since there almost isn't any about Atmora ! But how could we explain that the falmer split up , one group seeking help from the Dwemer and one leaving the province ? The Nords were decimating their ranks it didn't seem like they had any choice but to depend on the dwarves ! Woud they have struck such a terrible deal if they had known they could just sail off like that ?
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:54 pm

Do you recall if the Snow Elves forces who fought with the Prince all fell in Solstheim? If not though, the remaining forces could have left from Solstheim, realizing Skyrim was a lost cause and headed north. But I'm just looking for an explanation. Nothing to support that any group split and did that, other than Gelebors statement that there could be other snow elves hidden around Nirn, which leaves it pretty open
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:21 pm

sure theres probly more.. future dlc or next game . or the elder scrolls online..
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:38 pm

Quote montblanc: Well your explanations could be valuable I mean there's always a way to get around the lore since there almost isn't any about Atmora ! But how could we explain that the falmer split up , one group seeking help from the Dwemer and one leaving the province ? The Nords were decimating their ranks it didn't seem like they had any choice but to depend on the dwarves ! Woud they have struck such a terrible deal if they had known they could just sail off like that ?
(i cant use the quote button for some reason on my computer it just reloads the page)

Reply: is it not possible that the snow elves were divided in there time of crisis, some may have thought that Atmora was too dangerous and that they could trust there dwemer cousins seeing as they are both types of Elves, obviously they were wrong and knight paladin gelebor and the other snow elves at the chantry were unaware of the decisions of there people and only found out about the ones who went with the dwemer and didnt know about the hypothetical elves who went to Atmora.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:01 pm

Atmora sounds like Antarctica at this point.

" Expeditions to Atmora in modern times describe a place of permanent winter, with little life and no sign of human habitation. Whatever population did not succeed in fleeing to Tamriel doubtless succumbed to the ever-worsening climate many centuries ago."

Sure, temporary living might be possible. But I seriously doubt anyone or anything could survive there. If it killed the Nords, I can imagine it could kill the Snow Elves as well.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:13 pm

I'd honestly rather go to Solstheim than Atmora, that's for sure :P But then again, I know this is SKYRIM but how many different snowy environments are they going to manage to invent ? That's what I would fear in Atmora : no new sceneries, just a frozen wasteland like in winterhold (which is the coldest area in Skyrim, an Atmora is even more up north

Come to think of it I would'nt mind a city sculpted in ice haha sorry been watching too much Pingu
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:19 pm

Seeing as hearthfire is probably the name of the next dlc and the name sounds like something to do with heat or an awakening like being thored out, maybe you hear reports of the north heating up and then you and some other adventures go on an expedition and find something maybe snow elves but thats just what i picture.
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:02 am

Atmora is an even less hospitable land than skyrim and is almost completely devoid of any form of life ; that's why the first Nedic people fled it; I don't see the point of sailing to Atmora. And I hope we don't get Atmora as DLC since there won't be much to do there , I'd rather have Pyandomea or Akavir

I thought the reason the first nedic people fled was because of civil war gripping the land?
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:16 pm

I'd honestly rather go to Solstheim than Atmora, that's for sure :tongue: But then again, I know this is SKYRIM but how many different snowy environments are they going to manage to invent ? That's what I would fear in Atmora : no new sceneries, just a frozen wasteland like in winterhold (which is the coldest area in Skyrim, an Atmora is even more up north

Come to think of it I would'nt mind a city sculpted in ice haha sorry been watching too much Pingu
I thought Windhelm was the coldest area in Skyrim?

sorry for all the questions, I just have a bad habit of getting things wrong lol
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:56 pm

The only things that could survive Atmora would be the undead, like vampires or draugr.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:22 pm

That + the ever-worsening weather which would have killed them off had they stayed !

Dude, the sea is frozen in Winterhold ...

The point is that atmora is supposedly inhabitable now, but why not use our imagination ? People think that Yokuda still exists...
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:16 pm

If they added a new location, it better not be cold, snowy, or rocky. I am sick of the Skyrim landscape.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:48 pm

If they added a new location, it better not be cold, snowy, or rocky. I am sick of the Skyrim landscape.

I totally agree , even though I'm not sick with the landscape (come on its still really impressive) they should change colours for the next DLC ! They want to make us feel we're playing a different game (quoting Todd at E3 dawnguard) , what would be more refreshing than roaming in dense forests and jungles ? Haha I know it might not happen but hey , we never know !
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:07 pm



I totally agree , even though I'm not sick with the landscape (come on its still really impressive) they should change colours for the next DLC ! They want to make us feel we're playing a different game (quoting Todd at E3 dawnguard) , what would be more refreshing than roaming in dense forests and jungles ? Haha I know it might not happen but hey , we never know !
Ok I will admit that i don't want to raise Hell across a identical landscape, but I feel that the Vale was different enough to be spectacular and yet similar enough to know I was in Skyrim. I can just imagine a underground city, carved from the ice pack...I can dream...
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:14 am

I thought of snow elves and atmora a while back and hypothesized some sort of magic warmth or deep cave, so obviously I believe this theory could be possible and implemented in some way or another.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:36 pm

I always thought it would be cool if a remaining groups of snow elves were the true power and authority behind the Thalmor and all they have done to this point was building up to retaking Skyrim for themselves .
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:25 pm

That + the ever-worsening weather which would have killed them off had they stayed !

Dude, the sea is frozen in Winterhold ...

The point is that atmora is supposedly inhabitable now, but why not use our imagination ? People think that Yokuda still exists...

the sea is frozen yes but im pretty sure that i read somewhere windhelm is the coldest area.. aww well i probably am wrong like usual lol
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