[Relz] Bananasplit's Better Cities - Thread 38

Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:46 am

Okay - I"m getting the 4.8.1 now - but quick question: I create the OMOD with OBMM - is there an order in which I should active the three mods?
I have been activating them in this order:
Better Cities 4.8.3
Permanent Resources
BC Resources
Is that the right order?

How do I find out what the label is? (Sorry for my ignorance in this area)


There's a reason our readme include installation instructions :) Read the readme.

As for the label on the map marker, just hover your mouse over it in-game. It'll say something like "Imperial City, Market District" or maybe "Super New House Mod" if it's from another mod.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:14 am

I have a strange problem in cheydinhal, houses do not exist except for their doors ( the church is fine though)- there is no big yellow stars either
I had this problem with .80 and I moved up too .83 both the 10mb and the .81 or something resources update
The problem is still there so Im thinking it may be a corrupted permanent resources archive or a sucession of bad installations
I installed it with omod for the first time and got bash and bain working for the 2nd installation of the game
There was no apparent problems or conflicts that bash or the rest of tamriel was showing me so I'm stumped
I dont have microsoft office and don't wish to install open source programs either- is there a link for an online readme?

the city is fine when I play without cheydinhal but I have learnt to either love BC or really hate vanilla cities so any help would be greatly appreciated : D

Cheers
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:40 am

Don't really know how I got that problem with two separate installations but I fixed it now - not really sure how - I didn't do anything in particular just frigged around with it till it started working : D
a link to an online readme would still be great if it exists : P
cheers
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Post » Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:10 pm

There's a readme in the download archive. Use Notepad or Wordpad to read it, both come free with every version of Windows. Or install any free text editing package to read the file.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:45 am

I'm using the latest Better Cities and when looking at the sidewalk in the IP Market District - in some places the "rocks" are jiggling:
The forum that has all the info for Better Cities says to load last - but when I run BOSS (latest version) it re-arranges them.
Also (as an afterthougth) my NPC's have black eyes - why?
Here is my load order/mods:

Oblivion.esm
All Natural Base.esm
Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
Cobl Main.esm
Qarls_Harvest.esm
Ulrim's Horses.esm
Diverse Wisps - Base.esm
Artifacts.esm
Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
Better Cities Resources.esm
StaticRepairItems.esm
CM Partners.esm
EyeCandy - Content.esm
Younger Hotter NPC's v1.0.esp
Absolutely_sixy_MarketDistrict.esp
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp
Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
MOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp
MOBS SI Optional Combat Settings.esp
Better Cities .esp
All Natural.esp
All Natural - SI.esp
Advanced_Water_Modification-2734.esp
Visually Realistic Deadly Lava.esp
Visually Realistic Lava.esp
All Natural - Real Lights.esp
Cities Alive At Night.esp
AliveWaters.esp
AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp
AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp
advlt Books.esp
ChaseCameraMod.esp
ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp
CT-Com's Torch Compendium.esp
DaggerfallBooks.esp
Elder Scrolls Book Club - Oblivion.esp
Happyhannah's Wines.esp
More_Animals.esp
More_Vegetables.esp
Oblivion Cats v0.22b.esp
Oblivion Collectible Cards.esp
PTFallingStars.esp
Qarls_Harvest.esp
Qarls_Harvest addon.esp
VA_BetterGold.esp
Weapon Displays V1.9.esp
moDem's City Life.esp
Crowded Cities_Open.esp
Get Wet.esp
BeyondCyrodiilMarkers.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCSpellTomes.esp
DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp
EyeCandy Compilation.esp
MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp
Darkgreen Glass Armour.esp
RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp
StockClothingArmor-forExnems.esp
Slof's Horses Base.esp
Slof's Horses Essential.esp
Dude Wheres My Horse.esp
Call Steed 2.5+Saddlebags 0.91.esp
DLCThievesDen.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp
Francesco's More Wilderness Life.esp
Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp
Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests.esp
Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp
Francesco's Optional Leveled Arena.esp
ExnemRuneskulls.esp
Cobl Glue.esp
Cobl Si.esp
Cobl Tweaks.esp
Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
Oblivion WarCry EV.esp
OMOBS.esp
OMOBS_SI.esp
Diverse Wisps - for Vanilla.esp
WCGL - Wilderness Creatures 1.1.esp
TIE.esp
00RBScribeSupplies Intensive.esp
Adrift.esp
advlt_BookStore.esp
allinonebasemant.esp
Artifacts.esp
Capsized Ship.esp
GuilesHuntsmenLodge.esp
Jason1_Pirate Ship.esp
JolardHome.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp
KumikoManor.esp
LetThePeopleDrink.esp
Nascosto Isles 3.esp
All Natural - Nascosto Isles Weather Patch.esp
Scribe Supplies.esp
SilentStonesCamp.esp
Ship Wrack.esp
VaultsofCyrodiil.esp
VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp
VHBloodlines 1.2.esp
Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp
Villages1.1.esp
WeynonRetreat.esp
za_bankmod.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCFrostcrag.esp
Ulrim's Horses.esp
Knights.esp
Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp
Ulrim's Horses - Knights patch.esp
The Lost Spires.esp
Mighty Umbra - Vanilla OB.esp
Ungarion1TheWelkyndSword.esp
Blood&Mud.esp
The Mystery of the Dulan cult.esp
MannimarcoRevisited.esp
MannimarcoWardrobeChest.esp
xuldarkforest.esp
xulStendarrValley.esp
xulTheHeath.esp
XulEntiusGorge.esp
xulFallenleafEverglade.esp
xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp
xulChorrolHinterland.esp
mythsandlegends.esp
xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp
xulBravilBarrowfields.esp
xulLushWoodlands.esp
xulAncientYews.esp
xulAncientRedwoods.esp
xulCloudtopMountains.esp
xulArriusCreek.esp
xulPatch_AY_AC.esp
xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp
xulPantherRiver.esp
xulRiverEthe.esp
xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp
xulImperialIsle.esp
xulBlackwoodForest.esp
xulCheydinhalFalls.esp
xulAspenWood.esp
xulSkingradOutskirts.esp
xulSnowdale.esp
bartholm.esp
OBCChorrol-ChorrolHinterland fix.esp
OBCBravilB&M-Barrowfields patch.esp
AutoBookPlacer.esp
Bag of Holding.esp
Colourwheels sixy Bank.esp
P1DkeyChain.esp
Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp
nvde Spell.esp
Werewolf-Legends.esp
Quest Award Leveller.esp
Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp
Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp
Mighty Magick - Races.esp
MidasSpells.esp
Obicos_Ingredient_Increaser_v11-5131.esp
_Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp
Avariel.esp
_Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp
Tabaxi Race 2.0.esp
Beautiful PeopleV22 - MaleReplacerV4.esp
CM Partners.esp
CM Partners Special NPCs.esp
CM Partners NPC.esp
CM Partners More NPCs.esp
CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp
CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp
Dogmeat Companion.esp
Cobl Races.esp
Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp
WeynonRetreat-Patch.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp
Better Cities CHORROL - Werewolf.esp
Better Cities BRUMA - Werewolf.esp
Better Cities - Tears of the Fiend.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp
Better Cities - TIE Restricted Area.esp
Better Cities - VHBloodlines.esp
Better Cities - Werewolf-Legends.esp
Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp
Better Cities Full - B&M Edition FPS Patch.esp
Better Imperial City.esp
Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp
Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp
Better Cities - COBL.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp
Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp
Better Cities - Oblivion Collectible Cards.esp
Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp
Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp
The Ranger's House Lite.esp
Imperial Champions House_v2.2.esp
aLHerobook01.esp
Unlimited Magic Clothes Rus.esp
3 free unicorn.esp
007s_DragonfireTradeAndTransport.esp
Unlimited Amulets 1.0 Rus.esp
moremerchantmoneyv1.1 Rus.esp
Giant Bosses.esp
KvatchAftermathMQPatch.esp
Cripta del Palacio.esp
jumpmod.esp
Orc Ancestor.esp
BBC-ICMarket.esp
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:12 am

I'm using the latest Better Cities and when looking at the sidewalk in the IP Market District - in some places the "rocks" are jiggling:
The forum that has all the info for Better Cities says to load last - but when I run BOSS (latest version) it re-arranges them.
Also (as an afterthougth) my NPC's have black eyes - why?
Here is my load order/mods:

Spoiler

Oblivion.esm
All Natural Base.esm
Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
Cobl Main.esm
Qarls_Harvest.esm
Ulrim's Horses.esm
Diverse Wisps - Base.esm
Artifacts.esm
Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
Better Cities Resources.esm
StaticRepairItems.esm
CM Partners.esm
EyeCandy - Content.esm
Younger Hotter NPC's v1.0.esp
Absolutely_sixy_MarketDistrict.esp
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp
Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
MOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp
MOBS SI Optional Combat Settings.esp
Better Cities .esp
All Natural.esp
All Natural - SI.esp
Advanced_Water_Modification-2734.esp
Visually Realistic Deadly Lava.esp
Visually Realistic Lava.esp
All Natural - Real Lights.esp
Cities Alive At Night.esp
AliveWaters.esp
AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp
AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp
advlt Books.esp
ChaseCameraMod.esp
ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp
CT-Com's Torch Compendium.esp
DaggerfallBooks.esp
Elder Scrolls Book Club - Oblivion.esp
Happyhannah's Wines.esp
More_Animals.esp
More_Vegetables.esp
Oblivion Cats v0.22b.esp
Oblivion Collectible Cards.esp
PTFallingStars.esp
Qarls_Harvest.esp
Qarls_Harvest addon.esp
VA_BetterGold.esp
Weapon Displays V1.9.esp
moDem's City Life.esp
Crowded Cities_Open.esp
Get Wet.esp
BeyondCyrodiilMarkers.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCSpellTomes.esp
DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp
EyeCandy Compilation.esp
MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp
Darkgreen Glass Armour.esp
RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp
StockClothingArmor-forExnems.esp
Slof's Horses Base.esp
Slof's Horses Essential.esp
Dude Wheres My Horse.esp
Call Steed 2.5+Saddlebags 0.91.esp
DLCThievesDen.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp
Francesco's More Wilderness Life.esp
Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp
Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests.esp
Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp
Francesco's Optional Leveled Arena.esp
ExnemRuneskulls.esp
Cobl Glue.esp
Cobl Si.esp
Cobl Tweaks.esp
Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
Oblivion WarCry EV.esp
OMOBS.esp
OMOBS_SI.esp
Diverse Wisps - for Vanilla.esp
WCGL - Wilderness Creatures 1.1.esp
TIE.esp
00RBScribeSupplies Intensive.esp
Adrift.esp
advlt_BookStore.esp
allinonebasemant.esp
Artifacts.esp
Capsized Ship.esp
GuilesHuntsmenLodge.esp
Jason1_Pirate Ship.esp
JolardHome.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp
KumikoManor.esp
LetThePeopleDrink.esp
Nascosto Isles 3.esp
All Natural - Nascosto Isles Weather Patch.esp
Scribe Supplies.esp
SilentStonesCamp.esp
Ship Wrack.esp
VaultsofCyrodiil.esp
VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp
VHBloodlines 1.2.esp
Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp
Villages1.1.esp
WeynonRetreat.esp
za_bankmod.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCFrostcrag.esp
Ulrim's Horses.esp
Knights.esp
Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp
Ulrim's Horses - Knights patch.esp
The Lost Spires.esp
Mighty Umbra - Vanilla OB.esp
Ungarion1TheWelkyndSword.esp
Blood&Mud.esp
The Mystery of the Dulan cult.esp
MannimarcoRevisited.esp
MannimarcoWardrobeChest.esp
xuldarkforest.esp
xulStendarrValley.esp
xulTheHeath.esp
XulEntiusGorge.esp
xulFallenleafEverglade.esp
xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp
xulChorrolHinterland.esp
mythsandlegends.esp
xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp
xulBravilBarrowfields.esp
xulLushWoodlands.esp
xulAncientYews.esp
xulAncientRedwoods.esp
xulCloudtopMountains.esp
xulArriusCreek.esp
xulPatch_AY_AC.esp
xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp
xulPantherRiver.esp
xulRiverEthe.esp
xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp
xulImperialIsle.esp
xulBlackwoodForest.esp
xulCheydinhalFalls.esp
xulAspenWood.esp
xulSkingradOutskirts.esp
xulSnowdale.esp
bartholm.esp
OBCChorrol-ChorrolHinterland fix.esp
OBCBravilB&M-Barrowfields patch.esp
AutoBookPlacer.esp
Bag of Holding.esp
Colourwheels sixy Bank.esp
P1DkeyChain.esp
Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp
nvde Spell.esp
Werewolf-Legends.esp
Quest Award Leveller.esp
Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp
Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp
Mighty Magick - Races.esp
MidasSpells.esp
Obicos_Ingredient_Increaser_v11-5131.esp
_Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp
Avariel.esp
_Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp
Tabaxi Race 2.0.esp
Beautiful PeopleV22 - MaleReplacerV4.esp
CM Partners.esp
CM Partners Special NPCs.esp
CM Partners NPC.esp
CM Partners More NPCs.esp
CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp
CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp
Dogmeat Companion.esp
Cobl Races.esp
Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp
WeynonRetreat-Patch.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp
Better Cities CHORROL - Werewolf.esp
Better Cities BRUMA - Werewolf.esp
Better Cities - Tears of the Fiend.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp
Better Cities - TIE Restricted Area.esp
Better Cities - VHBloodlines.esp
Better Cities - Werewolf-Legends.esp
Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp
Better Cities Full - B&M Edition FPS Patch.esp
Better Imperial City.esp
Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp
Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp
Better Cities - COBL.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp
Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp
Better Cities - Oblivion Collectible Cards.esp
Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp
Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp
The Ranger's House Lite.esp
Imperial Champions House_v2.2.esp
aLHerobook01.esp
Unlimited Magic Clothes Rus.esp
3 free unicorn.esp
007s_DragonfireTradeAndTransport.esp
Unlimited Amulets 1.0 Rus.esp
moremerchantmoneyv1.1 Rus.esp
Giant Bosses.esp
KvatchAftermathMQPatch.esp
Cripta del Palacio.esp
jumpmod.esp
Orc Ancestor.esp
BBC-ICMarket.esp



Please use spoiler tags when providing your load order, so that the thread doesn't get excessively long.

You don't appear to be using a Bash Patch from Wrye Bash, you really should be with a load order that length.

you haven't followed the instructions for proper usage of BOSS, so you've left all the unknown mods at the end of your load order, instead of working out where they should be.
Right at the end you have "BBC-ICMarket.esp" - this is not from BC, using it with BC could cause problems with BC since I have no idea what it does. Please correct your load order, find out what that ESP does and ensure that it is loaded before BC IC if it is meant to be, or not used at all if it does things which conflict with BC.

NPCs with black eyes is nothing to do with BC at all, I believe it is caused by mods randomly selecting eyes for NPCs but failing to handle NPCs with eyes left on Default instead of a specific selection. That or it's just a mod screwing things up. Either way, not caused by BC.

As for "jiggling" rocks, what do you mean? Rocks are static, so shouldn't be moving at all. Does it look like they're flickering between dark and light grey? If so, you've got duplicated objects - another mod has placed rocks in the exact same location as BC has, they're overlapping and the game is trying to display both at the same time, causing a texture flicker. Remove whatever mod has duplicated the rocks (I would guess "BBC-ICMarket.esp").
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:32 am

I don't use the Batch Patch because when I do things seem to go wrong -
Mainly not really understanding the report from BOSS - But I will post that on Tesnexus
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:50 am

As I recall, "All Natural" REQUIRES a Bash patch to function correctly. You really should learn how to create a working Bash Patch for a large load order.
As for BOSS, try reading the readme, it explains how to use BOSS correctly. BOSS sorts all ESMs and ESPs which are on its masterlist, but the masterlist does not contain every single ESM or ESP every released, so those it doesn't recognise are placed at the end of your load order. The log very clearly explains what to do:
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Unrecognised mod files:
Reorder these by hand using your favourite mod ordering utility.
-----------------------------------------------------------------

Unknown mod file: zzICWaterfrontNoSlum.esp
Unknown mod file: zzICWaterfrontNoAI.esp
Unknown mod file: zzICWaterfrontNoSlumInteriors.esp
Unknown mod file: zzICWaterfrontNoShips.esp


-----------------------------------------------------------


Those mods it doesn't recognise, you have to "reorder by hand", which means you have to move them in your load order to the position you personally believe to be the most appropriate location, "using your favourite mod ordering utility", which means using Wrye Bash or Oblivion Mod Manager or any other similar tool which allows adjusting the load order of your mods.
Then it would be good to post in the BOSS thread the name of the ESM or ESP you have positioned (assuming it's one you downloaded or you created and uploaded for others to download, not ones you created just for testing something, like mine listed above) and saying where you positioned it so that it can be added to the BOSS masterlist for a future update.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:49 am

Bashed Patch is required for All Natural to operate properly.

It's also going to be necessary since you're running 3 different overhauls together, and likely would also fix the black eyes issue in the process.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:13 am

Bashed Patch is required for All Natural to operate properly.

It's also going to be necessary since you're running 3 different overhauls together, and likely would also fix the black eyes issue in the process.



I thought I was only running Better Cities - nothing else
I am mistaken I take it?
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Post » Tue Mar 08, 2011 11:47 pm

I'm using the latest Better Cities and when looking at the sidewalk in the IP Market District - in some places the "rocks" are jiggling:
The forum that has all the info for Better Cities says to load last - but when I run BOSS (latest version) it re-arranges them.
Also (as an afterthougth) my NPC's have black eyes - why?
Here is my load order/mods:

Spoiler
Oblivion.esm
All Natural Base.esm
Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
Cobl Main.esm
Qarls_Harvest.esm
Ulrim's Horses.esm
Diverse Wisps - Base.esm
Artifacts.esm
Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
Better Cities Resources.esm
StaticRepairItems.esm
CM Partners.esm
EyeCandy - Content.esm
Younger Hotter NPC's v1.0.esp
Absolutely_sixy_MarketDistrict.esp
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp
Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
MOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp
MOBS SI Optional Combat Settings.esp
Better Cities .esp
All Natural.esp
All Natural - SI.esp
Advanced_Water_Modification-2734.esp
Visually Realistic Deadly Lava.esp
Visually Realistic Lava.esp
All Natural - Real Lights.esp
Cities Alive At Night.esp
AliveWaters.esp
AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp
AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp
advlt Books.esp
ChaseCameraMod.esp
ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp
CT-Com's Torch Compendium.esp
DaggerfallBooks.esp
Elder Scrolls Book Club - Oblivion.esp
Happyhannah's Wines.esp
More_Animals.esp
More_Vegetables.esp
Oblivion Cats v0.22b.esp
Oblivion Collectible Cards.esp
PTFallingStars.esp
Qarls_Harvest.esp
Qarls_Harvest addon.esp
VA_BetterGold.esp
Weapon Displays V1.9.esp
moDem's City Life.esp
Crowded Cities_Open.esp
Get Wet.esp
BeyondCyrodiilMarkers.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCSpellTomes.esp
DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp
EyeCandy Compilation.esp
MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp
Darkgreen Glass Armour.esp
RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp
StockClothingArmor-forExnems.esp
Slof's Horses Base.esp
Slof's Horses Essential.esp
Dude Wheres My Horse.esp
Call Steed 2.5+Saddlebags 0.91.esp
DLCThievesDen.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp
Francesco's More Wilderness Life.esp
Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp
Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests.esp
Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp
Francesco's Optional Leveled Arena.esp
ExnemRuneskulls.esp
Cobl Glue.esp
Cobl Si.esp
Cobl Tweaks.esp
Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
Oblivion WarCry EV.esp
OMOBS.esp
OMOBS_SI.esp
Diverse Wisps - for Vanilla.esp
WCGL - Wilderness Creatures 1.1.esp
TIE.esp
00RBScribeSupplies Intensive.esp
Adrift.esp
advlt_BookStore.esp
allinonebasemant.esp
Artifacts.esp
Capsized Ship.esp
GuilesHuntsmenLodge.esp
Jason1_Pirate Ship.esp
JolardHome.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp
KumikoManor.esp
LetThePeopleDrink.esp
Nascosto Isles 3.esp
All Natural - Nascosto Isles Weather Patch.esp
Scribe Supplies.esp
SilentStonesCamp.esp
Ship Wrack.esp
VaultsofCyrodiil.esp
VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp
VHBloodlines 1.2.esp
Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp
Villages1.1.esp
WeynonRetreat.esp
za_bankmod.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCFrostcrag.esp
Ulrim's Horses.esp
Knights.esp
Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp
Ulrim's Horses - Knights patch.esp
The Lost Spires.esp
Mighty Umbra - Vanilla OB.esp
Ungarion1TheWelkyndSword.esp
Blood&Mud.esp
The Mystery of the Dulan cult.esp
MannimarcoRevisited.esp
MannimarcoWardrobeChest.esp
xuldarkforest.esp
xulStendarrValley.esp
xulTheHeath.esp
XulEntiusGorge.esp
xulFallenleafEverglade.esp
xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp
xulChorrolHinterland.esp
mythsandlegends.esp
xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp
xulBravilBarrowfields.esp
xulLushWoodlands.esp
xulAncientYews.esp
xulAncientRedwoods.esp
xulCloudtopMountains.esp
xulArriusCreek.esp
xulPatch_AY_AC.esp
xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp
xulPantherRiver.esp
xulRiverEthe.esp
xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp
xulImperialIsle.esp
xulBlackwoodForest.esp
xulCheydinhalFalls.esp
xulAspenWood.esp
xulSkingradOutskirts.esp
xulSnowdale.esp
bartholm.esp
OBCChorrol-ChorrolHinterland fix.esp
OBCBravilB&M-Barrowfields patch.esp
AutoBookPlacer.esp
Bag of Holding.esp
Colourwheels sixy Bank.esp
P1DkeyChain.esp
Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp
nvde Spell.esp
Werewolf-Legends.esp
Quest Award Leveller.esp
Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp
Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp
Mighty Magick - Races.esp
MidasSpells.esp
Obicos_Ingredient_Increaser_v11-5131.esp
_Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp
Avariel.esp
_Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp
Tabaxi Race 2.0.esp
Beautiful PeopleV22 - MaleReplacerV4.esp
CM Partners.esp
CM Partners Special NPCs.esp
CM Partners NPC.esp
CM Partners More NPCs.esp
CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp
CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp
Dogmeat Companion.esp
Cobl Races.esp
Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp
WeynonRetreat-Patch.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp
Better Cities CHORROL - Werewolf.esp
Better Cities BRUMA - Werewolf.esp
Better Cities - Tears of the Fiend.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp
Better Cities - TIE Restricted Area.esp
Better Cities - VHBloodlines.esp
Better Cities - Werewolf-Legends.esp
Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp
Better Cities Full - B&M Edition FPS Patch.esp
Better Imperial City.esp
Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp
Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp
Better Cities - COBL.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp
Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp
Better Cities - Oblivion Collectible Cards.esp
Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp
Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp
The Ranger's House Lite.esp
Imperial Champions House_v2.2.esp
aLHerobook01.esp
Unlimited Magic Clothes Rus.esp
3 free unicorn.esp
007s_DragonfireTradeAndTransport.esp
Unlimited Amulets 1.0 Rus.esp
moremerchantmoneyv1.1 Rus.esp
Giant Bosses.esp
KvatchAftermathMQPatch.esp
Cripta del Palacio.esp
jumpmod.esp
Orc Ancestor.esp
BBC-ICMarket.esp


get rid of Beautiful PeopleV22 - MaleReplacerV4.esp I the same problem awhile back and somebody pointed out that that was the cause. I deleted it and everything worked fine.
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Louise Andrew
 
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:33 am

I thought I was only running Better Cities - nothing else
I am mistaken I take it?


You are mistaken, as Better Cities isn't an "overhaul" as typically defined in Oblivion modding. Fran's is an overhaul (which you're using) as is OOO, MMM, FCOM (which combines Fran's, OOO and MMM together), TIE... Warcry is covered by FCOM so it's probably an overhaul, I believe MOBS is one too.

I'd still like to know what BBC-ICMarket.esp is and whether disabling it helps at all.
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Emily Jones
 
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Post » Tue Mar 08, 2011 11:36 pm

The files after the Better Cities mods, are they "unrecognized files" for BOSS? If so, you should move them up the list above the BC mods. I don't see Wrye Bash, Bashed Patch on there. You should consider gettin WB. will help with merging patches and such.
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Joe Alvarado
 
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Joined: Sat Nov 24, 2007 11:13 pm

Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:59 am

You are mistaken, as Better Cities isn't an "overhaul" as typically defined in Oblivion modding. Fran's is an overhaul (which you're using) as is OOO, MMM, FCOM (which combines Fran's, OOO and MMM together), TIE... Warcry is covered by FCOM so it's probably an overhaul, I believe MOBS is one too.

I'd still like to know what BBC-ICMarket.esp is and whether disabling it helps at all.


Actually I'm only running Franseco's added items - no OOO or MMM or FCOM
I do have WarCry - yes,
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Stat Wrecker
 
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 7:06 am

Actually I'm only running Franseco's added items - no OOO or MMM or FCOM
I do have WarCry - yes,


I thought I did an Identical install on both laptop/desktop computers
My laptop doesn't have that - so I couldn't tell you

But I am going to make another load order
Did the BASH - and will post here
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Aliish Sheldonn
 
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 2:01 am

SPOILER: LOAD LIST:
** and ++ are Patched

I get Oblivion to load - but when I choose a saved game it is doing a CTD

Spoiler
Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.0]02  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]03  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]04  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.73]05  Qarls_Harvest.esm06  Ulrim's Horses.esm07  Diverse Wisps - Base.esm08  Artifacts.esm09  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm0A  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 4.8.3]0B  StaticRepairItems.esm0C  CM Partners.esm0D  EyeCandy - Content.esm**  Cobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]**  Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]0E  Younger Hotter NPC's v1.0.esp  [Version 1.0]**  Absolutely_sixy_MarketDistrict.esp0F  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]10  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]11  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp12  DLCShiveringIsles.esp13  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]**  MOBS.esp  [Version 1.2.2]**  MOBS SI.esp  [Version 1.2.2]14  MOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp  [Version 1.2.2]15  MOBS SI Optional Combat Settings.esp  [Version 1.2.2]16  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.1]17  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.0]++  Advanced_Water_Modification-2734.esp++  Visually Realistic Deadly Lava.esp++  Visually Realistic Lava.esp18  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.1]19  Cities Alive At Night.esp1A  AliveWaters.esp1B  AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp1C  AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp1D  advlt Books.esp1E  ChaseCameraMod.esp1F  ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp20  ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp21  CT-Com's Torch Compendium.esp22  Elder Scrolls Book Club - Oblivion.esp23  Happyhannah's Wines.esp  [Version 1.1]++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.76]24  More_Animals.esp25  More_Vegetables.esp26  Oblivion Cats v0.22b.esp27  Oblivion Collectible Cards.esp28  PTFallingStars.esp29  Qarls_Harvest.esp2A  Qarls_Harvest addon.esp++  VA_BetterGold.esp2B  moDem's City Life - BP Compat.esp2C  moDem's City Life.esp2D  Crowded Cities_Open.esp2E  Get Wet.esp2F  BeyondCyrodiilMarkers.esp30  DLCOrrery.esp31  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]32  DLCVileLair.esp33  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]34  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp35  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]36  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]37  EyeCandy Compilation.esp++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp++  Darkgreen Glass Armour.esp++  RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp38  StockClothingArmor-forExnems.esp39  Slof's Horses Base.esp++  Slof's Horses Essential.esp3A  Dude Wheres My Horse.esp3B  Call Steed 2.5+Saddlebags 0.91.esp3C  DLCThievesDen.esp3D  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]3E  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]3F  Francesco's More Wilderness Life.esp40  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp41  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp42  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp43  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp44  Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests.esp45  Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp46  Francesco's Optional Leveled Arena.esp47  ExnemRuneskulls.esp48  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.73]49  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]++  Cobl Tweaks.esp  [Version 1.73]4A  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp4B  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]**  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]**  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]++  Diverse Wisps - for Vanilla.esp4C  WCGL - Wilderness Creatures 1.1.esp4D  TIE.esp  [Version 1.42]4E  00RBScribeSupplies Intensive.esp4F  Adrift.esp50  advlt_BookStore.esp51  allinonebasemant.esp52  AnvilBayExpansion.esp53  Artifacts.esp54  Capsized Ship.esp55  GuilesHuntsmenLodge.esp56  Jagnot- Imperial City Library V1.3.esp57  Jason1_Pirate Ship.esp58  JolardHome.esp  [Version 4.7.0]59  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp5A  Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp5B  KumikoManor.esp5C  LetThePeopleDrink.esp  [Version 2.5]5D  Nascosto Isles 3.esp5E  All Natural - Nascosto Isles Weather Patch.esp  [Version 2.0]5F  SilentStonesCamp.esp60  Ship Wrack.esp61  VaultsofCyrodiil.esp62  VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp63  VHBloodlines 1.2.esp  [Version 1.4]64  Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp65  Villages1.1.esp66  WeynonRetreat.esp67  za_bankmod.esp68  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp69  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]6A  DLCFrostcrag.esp6B  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]++  Ulrim's Horses.esp6C  Knights.esp6D  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]++  Ulrim's Horses - Knights patch.esp6E  TOTF.esp6F  The Lost Spires.esp70  Mighty Umbra - Vanilla OB.esp71  Ungarion1TheWelkyndSword.esp  [Version 1.4]72  Blood&Mud.esp73  The Mystery of the Dulan cult.esp74  MannimarcoRevisited.esp75  MannimarcoWardrobeChest.esp76  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]77  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]78  xulTheHeath.esp79  XulEntiusGorge.esp7A  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]7B  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]7C  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]7D  mythsandlegends.esp7E  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]7F  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]80  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.1]81  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]82  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]83  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]84  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]85  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]86  xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp  [Version 1.3.2]87  xulPantherRiver.esp88  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]89  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1]8A  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.6]8B  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]8C  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]8D  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]8E  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.1]8F  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0]90  bartholm.esp91  OBCChorrol-ChorrolHinterland fix.esp92  OBCBravilB&M-Barrowfields patch.esp93  AutoBookPlacer.esp  [Version 3.02]94  Bag of Holding.esp  [Version 1.5.0]95  Colourwheels sixy Bank.esp96  P1DkeyChain.esp  [Version 5.00]97  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]98  nvde Spell.esp99  Werewolf-Legends.esp9A  Quest Award Leveller.esp  [Version 2.0.1]9B  Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp  [Version 2.1.0]++  Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp  [Version 2.1.0]9C  Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp  [Version 2.1.0]9D  Mighty Magick - Races.esp9E  MidasSpells.esp9F  Obicos_Ingredient_Increaser_v11-5131.esp++  Item interchange - Placement.esp  [Version 0.76]++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag.esp  [Version 0.76]++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Reborn.esp  [Version 0.76]++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Spire Revisited.esp  [Version 0.76]++  Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk.esp  [Version 0.76]A0  _Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.espA1  Avariel.espA2  _Ren_BeautyPack_full.espA3  Tabaxi Race 2.0.esp  [Version 2.0]A4  Beautiful PeopleV22 - MaleReplacerV4.espA5  CM Partners.espA6  CM Partners Special NPCs.espA7  CM Partners NPC.espA8  CM Partners More NPCs.espA9  CM Partners Marker NPCs.espAA  CM Partners Extra NPCs.espAB  Dogmeat Companion.espAC  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]AD  KT_CustomRaceFix.espAE  Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.esp  [Version 4.8.3]AF  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp  [Version 4.7.0]B0  WeynonRetreat-Patch.espB1  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp  [Version 4.7.0]B2  Better Cities CHORROL - Werewolf.espB3  Better Cities BRUMA - Werewolf.espB4  Better Cities - Tears of the Fiend.esp  [Version 4.7.0]B5  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp  [Version 4.8.1]B6  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp  [Version 4.8.1]++  Better Cities - TIE Restricted Area.espB7  Better Cities - VHBloodlines.esp  [Version 4.7.0]B8  Better Cities - Werewolf-Legends.esp  [Version 4.7.0]B9  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp  [Version 4.7.0]BA  Better Cities Full - B&M Edition FPS Patch.esp  [Version 4.81]BB  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 4.8.1]BC  Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp  [Version 4.8.1]BD  Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp  [Version 4.7.0]BE  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2.1]BF  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp  [Version 4.8.1]C0  Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp  [Version 4.7.0]C1  Better Cities - Oblivion Collectible Cards.esp  [Version 4.8.0]C2  Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.espC3  The Ranger's House Lite.espC4  Imperial Champions House_v2.2.espC5  aLHerobook01.esp++  Unlimited Magic Clothes Rus.espC6  3 free unicorn.espC7  007s_DragonfireTradeAndTransport.esp  [Version 1.0]++  Unlimited Amulets 1.0 Rus.espC8  moremerchantmoneyv1.1 Rus.espC9  Giant Bosses.espCA  Cripta del Palacio.espCB  jumpmod.espCC  Orc Ancestor.espCD  Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp  [Version 01]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.1]CE  Bashed Patch, 0.espCF  Better Cities .esp

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Margarita Diaz
 
Posts: 3511
Joined: Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:01 pm

Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:27 am

SPOILER: LOAD LIST:
** and ++ are Patched

I get Oblivion to load - but when I choose a saved game it is doing a CTD

Spoiler
Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.0]02  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]03  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]04  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.73]05  Qarls_Harvest.esm06  Ulrim's Horses.esm07  Diverse Wisps - Base.esm08  Artifacts.esm09  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm0A  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 4.8.3]0B  StaticRepairItems.esm0C  CM Partners.esm0D  EyeCandy - Content.esm**  Cobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]**  Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]0E  Younger Hotter NPC's v1.0.esp  [Version 1.0]**  Absolutely_sixy_MarketDistrict.esp0F  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]10  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]11  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp12  DLCShiveringIsles.esp13  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]**  MOBS.esp  [Version 1.2.2]**  MOBS SI.esp  [Version 1.2.2]14  MOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp  [Version 1.2.2]15  MOBS SI Optional Combat Settings.esp  [Version 1.2.2]16  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.1]17  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.0]++  Advanced_Water_Modification-2734.esp++  Visually Realistic Deadly Lava.esp++  Visually Realistic Lava.esp18  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.1]19  Cities Alive At Night.esp1A  AliveWaters.esp1B  AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp1C  AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp1D  advlt Books.esp1E  ChaseCameraMod.esp1F  ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp20  ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp21  CT-Com's Torch Compendium.esp22  Elder Scrolls Book Club - Oblivion.esp23  Happyhannah's Wines.esp  [Version 1.1]++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.76]24  More_Animals.esp25  More_Vegetables.esp26  Oblivion Cats v0.22b.esp27  Oblivion Collectible Cards.esp28  PTFallingStars.esp29  Qarls_Harvest.esp2A  Qarls_Harvest addon.esp++  VA_BetterGold.esp2B  moDem's City Life - BP Compat.esp2C  moDem's City Life.esp2D  Crowded Cities_Open.esp2E  Get Wet.esp2F  BeyondCyrodiilMarkers.esp30  DLCOrrery.esp31  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]32  DLCVileLair.esp33  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]34  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp35  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]36  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]37  EyeCandy Compilation.esp++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp++  Darkgreen Glass Armour.esp++  RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp38  StockClothingArmor-forExnems.esp39  Slof's Horses Base.esp++  Slof's Horses Essential.esp3A  Dude Wheres My Horse.esp3B  Call Steed 2.5+Saddlebags 0.91.esp3C  DLCThievesDen.esp3D  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]3E  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]3F  Francesco's More Wilderness Life.esp40  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp41  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp42  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp43  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp44  Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests.esp45  Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp46  Francesco's Optional Leveled Arena.esp47  ExnemRuneskulls.esp48  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.73]49  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]++  Cobl Tweaks.esp  [Version 1.73]4A  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp4B  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]**  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]**  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]++  Diverse Wisps - for Vanilla.esp4C  WCGL - Wilderness Creatures 1.1.esp4D  TIE.esp  [Version 1.42]4E  00RBScribeSupplies Intensive.esp4F  Adrift.esp50  advlt_BookStore.esp51  allinonebasemant.esp52  AnvilBayExpansion.esp53  Artifacts.esp54  Capsized Ship.esp55  GuilesHuntsmenLodge.esp56  Jagnot- Imperial City Library V1.3.esp57  Jason1_Pirate Ship.esp58  JolardHome.esp  [Version 4.7.0]59  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp5A  Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp5B  KumikoManor.esp5C  LetThePeopleDrink.esp  [Version 2.5]5D  Nascosto Isles 3.esp5E  All Natural - Nascosto Isles Weather Patch.esp  [Version 2.0]5F  SilentStonesCamp.esp60  Ship Wrack.esp61  VaultsofCyrodiil.esp62  VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp63  VHBloodlines 1.2.esp  [Version 1.4]64  Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp65  Villages1.1.esp66  WeynonRetreat.esp67  za_bankmod.esp68  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp69  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]6A  DLCFrostcrag.esp6B  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]++  Ulrim's Horses.esp6C  Knights.esp6D  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]++  Ulrim's Horses - Knights patch.esp6E  TOTF.esp6F  The Lost Spires.esp70  Mighty Umbra - Vanilla OB.esp71  Ungarion1TheWelkyndSword.esp  [Version 1.4]72  Blood&Mud.esp73  The Mystery of the Dulan cult.esp74  MannimarcoRevisited.esp75  MannimarcoWardrobeChest.esp76  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]77  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]78  xulTheHeath.esp79  XulEntiusGorge.esp7A  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]7B  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]7C  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]7D  mythsandlegends.esp7E  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]7F  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]80  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.1]81  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]82  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]83  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]84  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]85  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]86  xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp  [Version 1.3.2]87  xulPantherRiver.esp88  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]89  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1]8A  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.6]8B  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]8C  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]8D  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]8E  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.1]8F  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0]90  bartholm.esp91  OBCChorrol-ChorrolHinterland fix.esp92  OBCBravilB&M-Barrowfields patch.esp93  AutoBookPlacer.esp  [Version 3.02]94  Bag of Holding.esp  [Version 1.5.0]95  Colourwheels sixy Bank.esp96  P1DkeyChain.esp  [Version 5.00]97  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]98  nvde Spell.esp99  Werewolf-Legends.esp9A  Quest Award Leveller.esp  [Version 2.0.1]9B  Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp  [Version 2.1.0]++  Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp  [Version 2.1.0]9C  Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp  [Version 2.1.0]9D  Mighty Magick - Races.esp9E  MidasSpells.esp9F  Obicos_Ingredient_Increaser_v11-5131.esp++  Item interchange - Placement.esp  [Version 0.76]++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag.esp  [Version 0.76]++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Reborn.esp  [Version 0.76]++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Spire Revisited.esp  [Version 0.76]++  Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk.esp  [Version 0.76]A0  _Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.espA1  Avariel.espA2  _Ren_BeautyPack_full.espA3  Tabaxi Race 2.0.esp  [Version 2.0]A4  Beautiful PeopleV22 - MaleReplacerV4.espA5  CM Partners.espA6  CM Partners Special NPCs.espA7  CM Partners NPC.espA8  CM Partners More NPCs.espA9  CM Partners Marker NPCs.espAA  CM Partners Extra NPCs.espAB  Dogmeat Companion.espAC  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]AD  KT_CustomRaceFix.espAE  Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.esp  [Version 4.8.3]AF  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp  [Version 4.7.0]B0  WeynonRetreat-Patch.espB1  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp  [Version 4.7.0]B2  Better Cities CHORROL - Werewolf.espB3  Better Cities BRUMA - Werewolf.espB4  Better Cities - Tears of the Fiend.esp  [Version 4.7.0]B5  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp  [Version 4.8.1]B6  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp  [Version 4.8.1]++  Better Cities - TIE Restricted Area.espB7  Better Cities - VHBloodlines.esp  [Version 4.7.0]B8  Better Cities - Werewolf-Legends.esp  [Version 4.7.0]B9  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp  [Version 4.7.0]BA  Better Cities Full - B&M Edition FPS Patch.esp  [Version 4.81]BB  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 4.8.1]BC  Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp  [Version 4.8.1]BD  Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp  [Version 4.7.0]BE  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2.1]BF  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp  [Version 4.8.1]C0  Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp  [Version 4.7.0]C1  Better Cities - Oblivion Collectible Cards.esp  [Version 4.8.0]C2  Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.espC3  The Ranger's House Lite.espC4  Imperial Champions House_v2.2.espC5  aLHerobook01.esp++  Unlimited Magic Clothes Rus.espC6  3 free unicorn.espC7  007s_DragonfireTradeAndTransport.esp  [Version 1.0]++  Unlimited Amulets 1.0 Rus.espC8  moremerchantmoneyv1.1 Rus.espC9  Giant Bosses.espCA  Cripta del Palacio.espCB  jumpmod.espCC  Orc Ancestor.espCD  Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp  [Version 01]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.1]CE  Bashed Patch, 0.espCF  Better Cities .esp




Your bash patch should always be last in your load order.

EDIT: Also after you make any changes in your load order, you have to rebuild your bash patch.
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Trevor Bostwick
 
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 2:48 am

Your bash patch should always be last in your load order.



I did move it down - still CTD
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:49 am

BASH at the bottom
Started a new game - CTD
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Michael Russ
 
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:12 am

I'm not a mod whiz like many of the people here, so the best advice i can give you is to disable your mods and turn them on one at a time, until you find the one(s) crashing your game. You'll have to rebuild your bash patch every time and it'll be a pain in the [censored], but I honestly don't know how else to help you.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:41 am

HAPPENS every time - do a bash and things don't work

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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:21 am

@Richard the Geek: My advice - Don't derail this thread on Better Cities. It is a load order issue, not Better Cities issue. You are absolutely not running BOSS, or else Better Cities wouldn't be where it is in your load order. http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/?page=boss and run BOSS. Read the BOSS log that is generated, as it will point out errors in your load order. Correct those errors.

Also, am not sure if you have the following:
CF Better Cities .esp
when you already have Better Cities - Full B&M edition.esp also installed.

BOSS will tell you if my hunch above is correct.
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Post » Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:15 pm

@Richard the Geek: My advice - Don't derail this thread on Better Cities. It is a load order issue, not Better Cities issue. You are absolutely not running BOSS, or else Better Cities wouldn't be where it is in your load order. http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/?page=boss and run BOSS. Read the BOSS log that is generated, as it will point out errors in your load order. Correct those errors.

Also, am not sure if you have the following:
CF Better Cities .esp
when you already have Better Cities - Full B&M edition.esp also installed.

BOSS will tell you if my hunch above is correct.



Actually am running boss - but running their newest one - the one that brings up a HTML list of what you're running - I'm going back to the other one.
Also Yes, am running CF Better Cities.esp - will take that out
Sorry for this on the thread
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Johanna Van Drunick
 
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:27 am

Actually am running boss - but running their newest one - the one that brings up a HTML list of what you're running - I'm going back to the other one.
Also Yes, am running CF Better Cities.esp - will take that out
Sorry for this on the thread


No, put "Better Cities .esp" back in immediately! Without it, none of our BSAs will be loaded in-game and you'll have lots of missing meshes (once you get the game itself to run). This ESP can go after the Bash Patch safely.

I do agree with anithinks though, your problems are totally unrelated to BC now that you've removed "BBC-ICMarket.esp" which was most likely causing the rock juddering you mentioned, so this is the wrong place to seek further help :)

I will say this: disable the Bash Patch, confirm if game saves load. If they do, you've set your Bash Patch up badly. Take your time to understand how the Bash Patch works, and ensure that you don't enable any parts which you don't want or cannot use. For example, some sections (such as "Replace Form IDs") require that other specific mods be in-use, but it neglects to inform you of this AND what those mods are called. So the safest way to build your Bash Patch for the first time, is to only enable a few parts at a time, checking that the game plays between each rebuild, until you've got all the Bash Patch sections you want and can use active, and all those you cannot use disabled.
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Post » Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:20 pm

No, put "Better Cities .esp" back in immediately! Without it, none of our BSAs will be loaded in-game and you'll have lots of missing meshes (once you get the game itself to run). This ESP can go after the Bash Patch safely.

I do agree with anithinks though, your problems are totally unrelated to BC now that you've removed "BBC-ICMarket.esp" which was most likely causing the rock juddering you mentioned, so this is the wrong place to seek further help :)

I will say this: disable the Bash Patch, confirm if game saves load. If they do, you've set your Bash Patch up badly. Take your time to understand how the Bash Patch works, and ensure that you don't enable any parts which you don't want or cannot use. For example, some sections (such as "Replace Form IDs") require that other specific mods be in-use, but it neglects to inform you of this AND what those mods are called. So the safest way to build your Bash Patch for the first time, is to only enable a few parts at a time, checking that the game plays between each rebuild, until you've got all the Bash Patch sections you want and can use active, and all those you cannot use disabled.

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