we should really get back to roleplaying...

Yes we should. What is currently happening? We have the help of the legion. whats happening for you markus?

Religion is regarded by common people as true, by the wise false, and by the rulers as useful. ~A Wise Man
You are acting as the ruler Markus. Excuses is what you come up with.

Liberty, Lunarwolf and IZoul are voting yes or no for the burning of the battlefield, Lunar voted no and Liberty yes, and we are all awaiting IZoul, when he decides the battle is said to begin.

True enough, however an open battlefield (which I suppose would have human warriors along with werebears) is different. For example, if two or three of the bears stand back-to-back and the humans act as skirmishers, it would make your job much more difficult.

That, mein freund, is where I come in.

Wow D: Thats exciting!
Are you german or do you just use german words? :3

Habit I picked up from my cousin. Its another reason why I say "messer".

Messer Liberty. If carrots doesn't hit you first you'd be damn sure I will. I owe you at least that much.

Not really, look at wolves hunting buffalo. The buffalo use the same tactic yet wolves are still able to find that one weak link in the chain, humans can be herded with ease and driven to where you want them. If all else fails you separate the two, herd the humans to their doom and turn your attention to the werebears. For your idea to work each and every man would need nerves of steal to keep calm and remain within the werebear wall, it's not hard to scare off humans we have a thing called the Fear howl that works wonders with breaking men's spirits.


I'm turning Skyrim on now, I'll travel to the location and mark it on my map for ya.

You also forget my talents Messer. If they aren't divided with the Fear Howl they can get a glimpse at my personal hell of a mind.

No, no. What I'm saying is that the were-bears would make sort of a tower (basically inapproachable) and the humans would drift around it (with a few bowmen within the werebear enclosure), striking out then getting back to the "tower" to get out of danger. It's like a "Mighty Glacier" coupled with a bunch of "Glass Cannons". At any rate, you can't compare buffaloes (herd animals and herbivores to boot) to werbears and humans. The bears themselves are very aggressive and I don't think Liberty was hiring little old women for mercenaries; these are probably battle hardened mercenaries who have looked death in the eye many times in many forms. Perhaps some of them have already battled werewolves which gives them a huge advantage. What you seem to fail to understand is the difference between a hunt and a battle; in a battle the opponent isn't afraid and running for their lives; they are as eager to stick it to you as you are to them. Of course this is purely theoretical, as I have no say in the battle tactics employed by Liberty's lot, I'll just be hovering around in the air, admiring the scene.


What's this?

You'd be surprised at how well Silat takes out groups.

You mean martial arts from Indonesia? Now I'm well and truly confused.

Im just wandering if this is okay with you guys I couldn't send any messages some reason. but a while back i posted that the jarl of Falkreath and whiterun sent aid to the forest, im sure they can send in fifty men altogether.

If you follow the road from Helgen ( the back gate not the one facing Riverwood ) to the gate that leads to Cyradil you should see what looks like a path directly left when looking at the gate to Cyradil. Follow that path and you come to a small clearing in the mountains with a sharp rock sticking up in the center like a sundial. http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj500/Justin_Peddle/DSC02246.jpg Helgen is in front of may den and Falkreath is just to the west, there's 3 ways to get up there but as a human there's a lot of jumping involved, as a werewolf the climb is rather easy. So it's pretty well protected by the mountains, I chose it as an RP location to hide from werewolf hunters, now Markus knows the location.

You mean a pyramid of werebears? It's more likely that they would form a circle around the archers, which still allows us to scare the liver out of em. And yes I know they are going to be hardened warriors but my fear howl now effects even the bravest of men.( level 40 or 50 ) All it would take is a small outbreak of fear and retreat to open up for an attack. Werebears are more aggressive but they are also the slowest of the were's, werewolves run circles around werebears and you cannot hurt what you cannot catch.
There's a reason why werewolves are Hircine's personal hunting hounds you know, because we're the upper tear of the were's, werebears are the " tanks " to break the line or defend it where as werewolves are the " Marines ", we're meant for seek and destroy, infiltration.

edit : I'm taking off for the night, might get a chance to RP and discussion tomorrow * fingers crssed * Night all.

Wow o.o i was at that place! The gate to cyrodiil,Havent seen it before,Now heading to your place.So what i am looking for is a cave where trolls hang out? I think i know the place.

No, not a cave where trolls hang out, like a place that trolls hang out. They usually hang out in a fairly flat location high up in the mountains( frost trolls I'm talking about ), put a marker on your map right where my player maker is. Once you reach the general area look for a small clearing surrounded by cliff face on 3 sides, in the center of the clearing there is a triangular sharp rock in the center ( or close to the center ) that looks like a sundial triangle. If you face towards Helgen / Whiterun there should be a thin line of trees just before an decline. Start from the gate South of Helgen ( I assume it's the gate to Cyradil seeing how it's in the south ) as your looking at the Cyradil gate you should see what looks like a trail that you would ski on, follow that path it leads to my clearing.


http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj500/Justin_Peddle/DSC02255.jpg it's not a cave or anything but it's a nice quite clearing that's out of reach( unless your looking for it )

I found it carrots! Thanks,Pretty epic! Nice view at the moon/moons right now from here! i imagine the pack standing here just howling at the moon,hehe. Also i think its the right place,Does your place have a large amount of Moonstone? Kinda cool it has moonstone here,Since this is the place of the pack.

My specialty is taking out groups or taking out single opponents. You'd also be surprised how insanity and motivation stacks up with knife/axe skills.

(The style's name sounds like Penjack silat)

Lol, not a pyramid, it's a circle like you said. What I was saying is there would be men on the OUTSIDE of the circle with melee as well as archers inside it. At any rate, I was not aware that we were discussing this on Skyrim terms; with perks, stats etc. I thought it was more of a free role play adhering to TES lore in general which allows more fantasizing on out part, but now I'm enlightened. And this way yes, the Fear Howl thing can scare any NPCs but following this line of thought, the Nordic battle cry is just as effective, and illusion spells can be cast to keep soldiers from fleeing.

Then they'd be distracted by casting spells.
Not all of us are going to be going as a wolf

Slow time serves well to buy time. Wolves are fast hit and runners, even groups aren't a problem.