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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 2:20 pm

Voicing your displeasure is ok, but please keep any form of platform bashing out of your posts.
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Post » Fri May 11, 2012 11:21 pm

this is unreal, I would never in a million years expect something like this coming out of ID Softwares, an dev team that pretty much created true PC gaming and the idea of tweaking. What in the world is going on?

Press cedilla / tilde for dev-console and start tweaking.


Texture Pop-in might have something with your RAM and HDD speed. Make sure you guys are NOT using WINDOWS PAGEFILE a lot.


Enable GPU Transcoding for minimizing texture-pop in.
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 1:30 pm

I honestly can't believe you can't tweak the settings... That's honestly the most idiotic thing I've ever heard of. And for something like that to come from id (yeah I know id isn't really id anymore, but a lot of the same folks are doing the id branded games), it's doubly astounding.
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 8:56 am

Voicing your displeasure is ok, but please keep any form of platform bashing out of your posts.
So, someone can only voice their opinion if it suits Bethesda's liking...... right.
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 2:33 pm

So, someone can only voice their opinion if it suits Bethesda's liking...... right.
No? Someone can only voice their opinion if they aren't aggressively attacking people's console preference. It is not forbidden to dislike specific platforms in a friendly matter.
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 3:03 am

Wow this is not really promising. I have it pre-loaded on Steam, a bit annoyed that I can't play it until 3 days from now as I'm in Europe, and also a bit annoyed I wake up excitedly on the release date to check reviews only to hear about this bullcrap. Sounds like my worst fears for this game are coming through, and it's some kind of console port. I've been with id since Doom, and have played pretty much every game since Commander Keen, and older stuff like Dangerous Dave. I appreciate this isn't really id, it's just John Carmack, Tim Willits, Kevin Cloud and a bunch of Bethesda people, not exactly the classic dream team. I was ready to accept it not having a good story, it's hard to compete today with things like Dead Space or Deus Ex, and I was ready to accept that it was a 60fps-designed game. I am NOT ready to accept that the graphics are broken, that it won't run on my considerably good PC or that it has console mechanics, that you can't properly change mouse sensitivity, no graphics settings, etc.

Allow me to just say, John Carmack is my life hero, and I work as a programmer and study daily simply driven by the want to be like him, and whatever happens to this game isn't going to dilute my opinion of him, simply because I know id =/= John Carmack.

Hopefully they'll put out some patches to fix the graphics issues by the time I get to start the game, but honestly I'd play it with 8 bit textures if I had to and wouldn't mind, what I DO mind is the game feeling like a console port. No joysticks here, no controllers or dpads, I want to be able to move my mouse around properly and click things with no smoothing or choppiness, and I want to be able to take full advantage of my machine without the game going "LOL, no let me take care of that" and failing.

Really hoping I'll enjoy it, but this doesn't bode well for Doom 4 either. It's starting to look like they can't keep up with modern games anymore, and in a sea of amazing game developers, designers and programmers id is not the center of the world like it used to be. Id gets a lot of revenue from licensing their engines, and so far this one has gotten a TON of negative feedback on the very first day, I wouldn't be surprised if they take a big financial hit from this. You get games like Dead Space 2, Deus Ex HR or Portal 2 which have both top tier graphics, gameplay, sound design AND story, it's very hard to keep up with that when you take 5 years to finish a game while everyone else keeps whizzing by. There have been a ton of PC-oriented games lately that were very impressive and really fun (to count a few, Penumbra, Amnesia, Witcher 2, MINECRAFT, etc). I'd like to say id should try to make something like Amnesia, but clearly they just don't care about PCs anymore, and they are only looking to compete with A+ titles on XBox 360 and PS3. Shame. I'm actually ashamed to comment publicly about the game now as I've been constantly plugging it and obsessing about it on FB for weeks, and now everyone I know basically is going to go "I told you PCs svck donkey balls".

Meanwhile, I'm going to play some Skulltag or Minecraft and pass the time. In the end I still find more fun playing this kind of stuff than wasting my time with juggernaut-sized console ports that barely run, last for 10 hours and are less fun. Mojang/Notch is the new Id/Carmack. I wonder if Romero is sitting there reading this and snickering.
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 2:30 am

we will find out how good of a support system ID has soon enough because if the game doesnt get patched by tomorrow they will lose many PC sales
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Post » Fri May 11, 2012 10:17 pm

My game runs perfectly fine.... high speed no drag!
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 1:12 am

What a load of BS.
No one wants product activation, forced updates, or in-game advertisemant. No one wants to MOD on a monopoly gun-to-the-head platform (Steamworks) where people can have their MOD project pulled at any time for any reason.
Counter-Strike and TFC were originally FREE MOD's for Half-Life... then greedy Valve came along, bought out the rights for them and started charging people for them.

You call that knowing what gamers want??? Come on man.
You obviously haven't been gaming since the good old days where gaming was "for gamers by gamers" and studios owned and ran by computer enthusiasts... or maybe you dont give two * about your freedom. Either way, Valve are scum bags that have destroyed gaming on PC.
The most tragic part is how so many people happily swallow their BS.

Well, I like Valve. I like their Steam service, their top notch games (that receive graphic updates specifically for PC gamers), the free updates and addons (L4D2). If you know any other company that makes PC gamers feel welcome, then by all means, tell me.
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 12:29 am

Well, I like Valve. I like their Steam service, their top notch games (that receive graphic updates specifically for PC gamers), the free updates and addons (L4D2). If you know any other company that makes PC gamers feel welcome, then by all means, tell me.

Agreed, I love Valve, and so far Steam has been great for me, and for mods as well. Not exactly as simple to distribute as back in the HL1 days, but still easier to actually get games.
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 5:51 am

So, someone can only voice their opinion if it suits Bethesda's liking...... right.
You may voice your opinion in accordance with the rules of this forum. Please take time to read them as you agreed to them when you joined:
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/724862-forum-rules-and-general-information/
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 12:17 pm

From what i understand GPU Trancoding determines what video card/video cards you are using and auto adjusts the settings to optimal settings for your computer.
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 10:19 am

I'm going to cancel mine or send it back, it should be here tomorrow. No video options, no thanks. Not even going to open it. Consoles are killing PC gaming or greed is. I'm hearing reports of blurry textures on 580 GTXs. I hope Skyrim isn't gimped like this.
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 6:35 am

I'm going to cancel mine or send it back, it should be here tomorrow. No video options, no thanks. Not even going to open it. Consoles are killing PC gaming or greed is. I'm hearing reports of blurry textures on 580 GTXs. I hope Skyrim isn't gimped like this.


Ya I don't understand these claims.. my game looks AMAZING with twin 480's. So I guess it is all based on how the game detects your hardware... 480's seem to work great though.
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 6:51 am

http://i.imgur.com/DCpPX.jpg lol so true.
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 1:05 am

I'm going to cancel mine or send it back, it should be here tomorrow. No video options, no thanks. Not even going to open it. Consoles are killing PC gaming or greed is. I'm hearing reports of blurry textures on 580 GTXs. I hope Skyrim isn't gimped like this.
You should read around a bit. Seems some fixes are on the way. And maybe Umi's post saying not to blame or bash consoles.

I'm sure that some will have some problems when Skyrim comes out. They always push QA to the limit but there is always configuration problems or graphic's card problems that come up. I've honestly never seen one release that had absolutely no issues from anyone at all.

We all just hope we aren't one of the unlucky ones that must use up all our patience waiting for the cure or that the cure will be found quickly and fixed.

Interestingly there are few who come around after release except for the ones with problems.

And there is always the choice not to buy a game until the kinks are worked out and the patches in place.
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 2:06 pm

You should read around a bit. Seems some fixes are on the way. And maybe Umi's post saying not to blame or bash consoles.

I'm sure that some will have some problems when Skyrim comes out. They always push QA to the limit but there is always configuration problems or graphic's card problems that come up. I've honestly never seen one release that had absolutely no issues from anyone at all.

We all just hope we aren't one of the unlucky ones that must use up all our patience waiting for the cure or that the cure will be found quickly and fixed.

Interestingly there are few who come around after release except for the ones with problems.

And there is always the choice not to buy a game until the kinks are worked out and the patches in place.
I have no problems with the streaming but there is still one "problem" that will glare you in the face. The low resolution textures.
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 6:32 am

http://i.imgur.com/DCpPX.jpg lol so true.


Funny.. but umm no. Maybe I am lucky with my pc config.. but all the screenshots and everything you guys are posting do look crappy... but mine does not. >.> Maybe it just isn't reading your graphic cards correctly. Someone should probably compile a list of video cards people are having issues with and ones that are looking great.
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 5:17 am

Is there even a config file to make graphical changes?
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Post » Fri May 11, 2012 11:38 pm


Valve is the only one that gets it right from the start.. they know what gamers want and always takes good care of them. you'd think other developers would get a hint and follow along.


I hope you realize that this is just the beginning of the end. Id was a great company, but it isn't Id anymore - it is Id run by the economics of the video game industry (which does not give a crap about anything except for $$$).

If you buy it - they win. Industry doesn't care about the next sale, just this sale. They worry about the next sale next time, and they'll whip up fantastic marketing and reviews to "prove" that you should buy the next rage because it'll be better next time, they promise.

I used to pre order games too, but I vowed to never pre-order another game again after ME2.

And, as for your valve quote... although Valve is still private and has steam which may be able to stabilize them against the giants EA, Zenimax/Bethesda, Activision, Valve releases a game like once every 8 years. Eventually Valve will fall too.

Do you think Carmack still gives a crap about Doom?
The guy has been there and done that, many times over.
He can say whatever he wants, but this game is proof that he is fully invested in selling out... more power to him and shame on any of you who handed over your money for a product unseen - you only have yourself to blame.


As for me, I won't pre-order HL3, if that game ever materializes.
I won't pre-order any game ever again, until the industry goes back to its roots (which probably won't ever happen).

The good news in all of this is - there is FROM software and Dark Souls!!
yeah!
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 2:13 pm

Is there even a config file to make graphical changes?


Maybe but if you turn on GPU Trancoding the game is supposed to read your video card and adjust settings accordingly. So my guess is that lots of video cards are being read wrong. Hence alot of people seeing bad textures.
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 2:46 am

Funny.. but umm no. Maybe I am lucky with my pc config.. but all the screenshots and everything you guys are posting do look crappy... but mine does not. >.> Maybe it just isn't reading your graphic cards correctly. Someone should probably compile a list of video cards people are having issues with and ones that are looking great.


I don't think the textures will look good on anyones computer, that's a problem with the game not any driver issues. The driver issues are textures loading slow, suttering, crashing, ect. Some guy on Kotaku ( a news poster ) has a 580 gtx with the same drivers and settings as me is not have any texture loading delay like I am, so I am unsure why its happening to me.
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 4:56 am

So, someone can only voice their opinion if it suits Bethesda's liking...... right.
Not to put too fine a point on it, but that's a bit... dramatic, no? :) We never have a problem with people disagreeing, or complaining, when it is kept civil, constructive, no personal attacks - including nasty threats against developers. It's astonishing how much keeping a temper and behaving like you are talking to someone in front of you, not hidden behind internet anonymity, can go a long way to getting issues if not resolved, then understood.

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1236550-ati-says-their-drivers-are-broken-for-rage-releasing-new-ones/
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 10:16 am

I don't think the textures will look good on anyones computer, that's a problem with the game not any driver issues. The driver issues are textures loading slow, suttering, crashing, ect. Some guy on Kotaku ( a news poster ) has a 580 gtx with the same drivers and settings as me is not have any texture loading delay like I am, so I am unsure why its happening to me.


That isn't true because it looks and runs great on my pc.
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 3:21 am

Wait a sec. There are no graphics options except AA and rez? At all?

No effin way, right?
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