If what Mr. House says is true, then he is one of the best choices not just for New Vegas but for humanity. The Legion will drag humanity back, the NCR is trying to reclaim what was lost and not doing the greatest job, and The Courier/Yes Man have no concrete objective but power for power's sake (to start with, at least).

So, can House deliver on what he promises; giving humanity a new start on a planet untouched by the Great War, under his leadership? Or is he pulling the wool over your eyes in the name of retaining control of New Vegas?

Two questions, really - is he telling the truth, and can he do it. If the first answer is 'no' then the second is irrelevant.

However, House seems to have been building to this from the start - since he first realised that humanity would doom itself to nuclear oblivion. His obituary notes that everything was leading up to "re-ignite mankind's quest for technological advancement"; stopping the nukes, uniting the three families and keeping the NCR "those snakes/my best customers" at bay with the treaty of New Vegas. He appears to be in it for the long run, devastated that everything has come to naught if you take him out of his tank.

Whether he actually can is another question. With upgraded securitrons and a Vegas in his hands, the resources are there in the form of caps - and he certainly appears to have the necessary aptitude and knowledge. He's not the most likeable authority figure, which is where the plan may fall down - I don't think the securitrons alone could construct spacefaring craft, and he'd need to convince a sizeable population to go on his ships and restart civilisation.

If House speaks the truth, then he is very likely the best choice in the long run. However, there are concerns. His callous mass-murder of the Brotherhood of Steel suggests that his vision for humanity might not jibe with anyplace where a decent person would want it to go. A man who will kill dozens for a "greater good" will kill hundreds, or thousands, or even millions. On the other hand, if the player remains witrh him, living in the lap of luxury in the Lucky 38, he can always put an end to House if his actions get too despicable.

I personally regard the democratic NCR as the "good karma" choice, the tyrannical Legion as the "evil karma" choice, and House's autocracy as the "neutral karma" choice. Independent NV is the "wild card" choice, it depends on the nature of the player.

The destruction of the Brotherhood (which puts me off his questline, I'll be honest) is entirely congruent with his grand plans for humanity. He describes them as 'terrorists' - either to convince the player, because he believes it or both, which comes to pass in two of the endings; harassing travellers on the I-15 for tech. If he plans on building spaceships, the Brotherhood would be a great obstacle to their construction and deployment - see what they did at Helios One; they aren't interesting in humanity's progress, they're interested in hoarding the tech for themselves. It's no small wonder most of the wasteland hates them, for arrogantly thinking they are the only ones with the right to control tech.

I believe the question is: "Can" he do it? Not would that be a good idea :hubbahubba:

The only problem with "The House Wins" scenario is that there is every reason to believe that he will not make it another century—and certainly the Courier won't. there is no reason to believe that any self-sustaining continuity would ensue.

The probability is that (sooner or later) New Vegas would be absorbed into the NCR. Even if Yes Man persevered the juggernaut of the NCR would eventually be such that he would be absorbed or deleted.

I can see him getting off world yes, colonisation however no not even with Science.
Some space age floating city where the rich live free from all hostile parties, backed up with a NV's turned hub.
While the rest of the areas become even worse slums, and chattle pens to feed the desires of those above.

I can see this in a FO world, or even ours true colonisation no not by House.

There's no simple "No." answer.

Is it possible? Sure... Likely in his timeframe (100 years)? No.

First of all yes I do believe its possible. As the former head of RobCo and the saviour of Vegas I believe that there are very few things that are not possible for Mr House.

BUT... and there is a but.

The finances and raw materials of such endevours would be significant, highly risky and dependent on several factors out of his controll. It would make more sense to expand and employ the "Vegas solution" to other cities around the US. Building a chain/federation of "city states" would be more cost effective generate more caps, and facilitate more information on what resources would be available and the potential of said resources.

See.. whilst the earth might be a wreck after post apocalyptia it still holds vaules, minerals and assets far easier to exploit here, than in a hostile environment such as space... or even another planet. At the very least House would need to build a robotics/renovate a factory and either renovate one or more REPCONN facilities or build them from scratch. He would need the raw materials to construct the robots and the rockets. He would need people to fly them, or (if he had robots flying them) need someone to act the role of colonizers and train them as well. Even if I think House can achieve great things I think a 100 year timeframe is rather optimistic. Unless he has yet another ace up his sleeve... which I would not put past him. After all... RobCo would have been major company with significant assets and he didnt spend them all on Securitrons and construction the lucky 38. He could very well have some "shake and bake" constructions hidden that we know nothing about.

BoS only take weapons, to attack people for more weapons. House says they never go after any helpful technology, which is ture, give ed e to them and another character the followers. Followers get solar power, BoS eye bot army...
Also you mean the same democratic ncr who forced vault city to join them by hiring mercs to attack it, until they joined ? The same guys wanting to wipe out jacobstown ? The same guys trying to steal the strip from house, and because he wouldnt hand it over had house killed ? Yes great people, no different to the legion, or any invaders. Self serving.


*imagines lucky 38 launching like a rocket into space*
I think house can do it he has caps for resources, the dam for electricity and the knowlage.
Best chance anyway, the rest of the factions scavenge, House builds.

I have faith House can accomplish 75% of it maybe 80%. The reason theres a 20-5% margin of noncompletion has to do with House physically, if you are curious and go to see House in what little of the flesh remains, you see that his body is not in true stasis, just a highly efficient life support system. By 2281, his body is pretty much the equivalent of a Jew from a Concentration Camp. I'm betting that by 2481 at minimum, his body will succumb to the ravages of time. Despite mans dreams of immortality, we just arent fit for more than 100 years at most on average, and even that is pushing it.

No, where will his shuttle launch pad go? Where will he get the resources to build the spaceships? He won't be able to get to the pre-war launch pads in Florida, and the land surrounding New Vegas isn't really fit for a launch pad. (Not enough space, too many hills and mountains) So, 100 years seems unlikely, 200 years at least is a better estimate.

Wait, I just remembered the Bloomfield Space Center, an important location that would of been in Van Buren, it was southeast of Hoover Dam, in Arizona. That means it would be in Legion territory, but the Securitrons would probably be able to get to it, because they beat the Legion and NCR at Hoover. It would be easier then Hoover because they wouldn't have to fight through a lot of centurions to get there. There were two rockets there in Van Buren, I think House would be able to replicate them if he had the resources available. I'd say 175 years for colonisation ships to be read. By this I mean an entire fleet, like what the Europeans used when they colonised the "New World."

Even so....a Independant NV would be strong enough to get better terms to join the NCR as a State than they'll get in the NCR ending.

You realize Repconn is right up the road don't you?

He's probably unaware that (assuming you complete it a certain way first) the Bright Brotherhood took off w/ the repconn rockets. (Remember, Robco bought out Repconn prewar. He was probably thinking specifically about those rockets and that facility.)

I think House is a visionary but he's completely out of touch w/ reality being locked up in his cocoon and receiving unemotional, cold, flat data via his robots. He's still thinking in pre-war terms (as are the other factions, for that matter). And he's been wrong before (prediction about the actual timing of the great war, buggy software, Benny's loyalty, the Omerta's loyalty, the White Glove's reformation, and even the courier's loyalty depending on how you play, etc.) I suspect he believes in his visions of finding a new planet to live on and he really believes he will save humanity from extinction, but the reality is that his goals are simply not possible for one man to do or oversee, even w/ the help of the three families and the courier. So, no - he's not lying per se, but I don't think he can accomplish what he believes he can accomplish, and certainly not in the timeline he has planned out.

When you get down to brass tacks, he's no different than any other faction w/ their grand vision of rebuilding the world in their own idealistic images of pre-war society.

House after his win has

all the knowledge of the old world in his computer banks
a steady source of water and power from the Hoover Dam
a steady supply of caps from the strip and selling water and power
a securitron army to police the area

That's every thing you need to start rebuilding pre-war style factories, and he should have no problem attracting willing workers.

I was just about to say that...

I doubt he'd be unaware of those rockets launching into the sky.


Nelis airforce base or Searchlight airport would be perfectly serviceable. He could also build a launch pad in that 100 years while he's developing he technology for the ship.

Maybe his plan is really to develop the resources and technology to fix mothership zeta up in orbit and use that to take humanity to a new world. He just lies about the colony ship so he won't blow your tiny little mind with stuff about aliens.

Why, yes. Yes I do :touched:

The thing I hate about the NCR is they just roll over you, they can't accept independant cities or regions, they want it absorbed into NCR, and look what the NCR does in New Vegas, Mr. House has them sign treaties on more than fair conditions, but they scheme to steal Vegas from under him, even going so far as to politically assinate him. House never has you kill someone 'because I say so'. One can argue the BoS, but the BoS are terrorists and tech hoarding crybabies who'd assault Vegas soley because 'They have the better tech....can't have that'

Well not even that, he says they would never accept a robot controled New Vegas, tech [censored]s that they are, House also says the best line ever here!



"Because they're ridiculous." XD

What about the BoS in the capitale wasteland? He could send a expedetion over east and establish a foothold there,didnt it have a form of a valuable resource there?

I doubt that House would deal with BoS... nomatter where they were. He has alot of high end tech that the BoS basically have sworn that they would take from humankind. "For safe keeping" ofc.

I support House but I don't think he'll be able to do it in 50 yrs and besides nothing is going to challenge him if he gets his army of MK II's active.

Loracal I know its a little late to repost for your comment but if Mr,House truly desired to get rid of the brotherhood, he would. Truly he could wait until the brotherhood NEEDS to be eliminated OR he could make a diplomatic alliance with the brotherhood, use them to hoard pre war technology for him then throw them away. After all, in thirty years in the game, you'll probably be dead so who give a [CENCORED] anyway?

BTW, If you dont think they can be persuaded...well I leave you to figure that all out....

I'm pretty sure he could get folks launched into space, but not sure about colonization. Why go into space when there's an entire earth to rebuild? Because he can.

because the moon would have untouched resources, and no radiotaion/fev.
All he needs to do is get an atmosphere... Somehow.