we can side with dawnguard and the vampires but why cant we

Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:07 am

Yes, why is this not an option? I want to destroy the world and then build a cabin in the middle of nothingness so that I can stare at eternity. Why was this not implemented Bethesda? RPG is the svck, offers no choices, roar, lolololo.

He did save our lives after all. What's the price of nirn for your saviour.
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Kit Marsden
 
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:10 pm

Something that confuses me about this whole "the entirety of Tamriel will rise up and vanquish the Vampire Lords if Harkon does this," train of thought so many people are going down is it assumes too many things:

*variables 1 through 7*
And these two are major ones to me
8) The Vampire Lords would just sit at Castle Volkihar and twiddle their thumbs and toes while they wait to be besieged.
9) After traveling for days/weeks/possibly months in total blackness, the various groups of soldiers would be in well enough mental health to be able to cope with prolonged battles in the dark against enemies who can see perfectly fine in total blackness, have superhuman strength and reflexes, can disappear, fuel themselves with blood, can revive their recently killed friends and force them to fight one another, summon gargoyles, turn into bats, throw them incredible distances, paralyze them, and can transform into winged monstrosities without panicking and routing.

To me, this seems like way too many variables for the humans/mer/beast races to be able to effectively control and manage. There's no way that this event would be enough to unite them to work together to save themselves. Even when it was only two factions, they couldn't even agree to work together, and that was when the World Eater returned. The most they agreed to do was grumble in their respective cities, waiting for things to sort themselves out. I can't imagine this being much different, and you're looking at organizing entire countries with vary different political aims. Who's to say the population of Valenwood that wants to be free of Thalmor control wouldn't just start killing them in the confusion, rather than working towards fighting the Vampire Lords? Same with the Stormcloaks. Solitude is closest to Castle Volkihar, so the Stormcloak soldiers could seemingly march towards the vampires, but then attack the city and take Jarl Elisif hostage and force her to kneel to Ulfric.

There's too many variables for the mortals, which I think really pushes things in the vampires' favor.
Thank you, thank you, thank you. It's like you reached into my head and read my thoughts! :)

In short: I just don't see it. I'm not saying that the Vamps would win, hands down. It would be a world changing event for certain, but I just don't see how Skyrim, let alone all of Tamriel, would be able to respond quick enough to the threat. As REL_D pointed out, there are too many variables. So many that the deck is really stacked in Harkon's favor....not to mention in the favor of all the other Vampire Clans out there.

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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:23 pm

Basicly what will happen if Lord Harkon succeeds... Everybody in Tamriel will find ways in eliminating all the vampires in their area in hopes to get the sun.. Eventually, The Imperials/Stormcloaks of Skyrim will get to Lord Harkon and that is when he shall be defeated and maybe the sun will come back...

This way everybody wont really be working together but they are still killing vampires, and such.
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:47 am

To be honest, the Empire probably wouldn't be able to react quickly enough to do anything about it. However, it's not the Empire that the Volkihars would have to worry about. It would be the Dominion. They're not going to let all of their plans go to pot just because some vampire lord in the frozen north has fancy ideas about ruling the world. They'd be on him incredibly quick, and I'm assuming that the Thalmor have a method to move large amounts of men and materiel to Skyrim on short notice, given their capability with magic.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:30 pm

You cannot side with Harkon because he's a nut-job who turns on you the instant he doesn't need you anymore.
The End.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:36 pm

You cannot side with Harkon because he's a nut-job who turns on you the instant he doesn't need you anymore.
The End.
Yup standard overlord tactics you take out the underling if he/she starts getting too powerful even serana says if you are a vampire that you are becoming powerful very quickly and will become a threat to her farther.
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:57 am

:shrug: I'd still like the option.
-side with him
-betray him, the apprentice becomes the MASTER
-take over his Empire
-become Vampire OVERLORD :devil:

[Edit: On a side note, it occurred to me the other day that Harkon is just fulfilling his role as a disciple of Molag Bal. Being that he's the god of domination, it only makes sense that Harkon would want to dominate the world.]
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:27 am

If the sun went out it would be hard to start any organized war against the vampires when all the cities are being sacked. Any town without a wall would be a push over. People keep saying the world would crush the 12 vampires with harkon, but he has way more vamps that follow him then that. Harkon is not going to have every vampire that is his live with him. Did any of our kings in history have all his peasents live with him in the castle, I think not. Every place on nirn would be having vampires attacking, all the cities would have to go on the defence. And would be hard to plan any retaliation with other cities. It would be a long war I think.
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