Champion of Cyrodiil : V

» Thu May 10, 2012 9:22 am

I am currently playing through the Dark Brotherhood, and I came over a couple of journals.
I will not go into detail about who the journals belong to.

Spoiler

From the 1st volume of XXXXXX's Journal's:

27th of Rain's Hand, 4E 187
Completed the Arena
contract. I ultimately
decided to pose as a starstruck
fan, and immediately got
into the Grand Champion's
good graces. While escorting
the arrogant fool through the
Great Forest, I slashed his
throat and left the corpse for
the bears.

So is this Grand Champion our Champion of Cyrodiil?

» Thu May 10, 2012 5:01 am

The Grand Champion can be a title for all sorts of things. Besides, it's pretty much cannon now that the Champion of Cyrodiil becomes Sheogorath after the Shivering Isles quest.

» Thu May 10, 2012 1:24 pm

I doubt my badass character from Oblivion would let himself be killed by an annoying garden gnome.

» Thu May 10, 2012 12:22 pm

I found a book about the Oblivion Crysis. It just describe the prisoner encounter with the Emperor and his accomplishments, nothing about his fate if I remember it well.

» Thu May 10, 2012 1:17 pm

So the Adoring Fan was an assassin after all? lmao

» Thu May 10, 2012 10:11 am

The date is 187. Unless the player character was an Altmer he/she probably did not live that long. It was a different Grand Champion. That is not to say the Adoring Fan wasn't an assassin though.

» Thu May 10, 2012 5:44 am

Isn't he Sheogorath now?

» Thu May 10, 2012 5:27 pm

27th of Rain's Hand, 4E 187
Completed the Arena
contract. I ultimately
decided to pose as a starstruck
fan, and immediately got
into the Grand Champion's
good graces. While escorting
the arrogant fool through the
Great Forest, I slashed his
throat and left the corpse for
the bears.

Look at the date, the CoC would have been dead by then.

I'm pretty sure it's canon now that the CoC became Sheogorath, I'm not sure if that's been confirmed or not though.

» Thu May 10, 2012 3:39 am

So the Adoring Fan was an assassin after all? lmao

Not our assassin trough. At least not if you is a human character that would die in those 146 years.

Spoil to us.. Is the Jornal Owner a Bosmer?

» Thu May 10, 2012 8:36 am

So the Adoring Fan was an assassin after all? lmao

makes sense dosnt it? he puts up a (very very very very very very [VERY]) helpsless front and kills us when we least expect it, but he was thrown off dive rock before he could get the job done :tongue:

» Thu May 10, 2012 10:39 am

The Grand Champion is the highest competitor in the Imperial Arena, this has nothing to do with the Champion of Cyrodiil.

» Thu May 10, 2012 3:16 am

The date is 187. Unless the player character was an Altmer he/she probably did not live that long. It was a different Grand Champion. That is not to say the Adoring Fan wasn't an assassin though.

I was curious about the date. I'm not very familiar with the calendar in TES, you see.
Also, these journals are written by someone from the Dark Brotherhood, who apparently moved from the sanctuary in Bravil to the sanctuary in Cheydinhal. The person who wrote them is currently living in Skyrim and is still relevant. Don't know if he's Bosmer. Perhaps I should boot up the PS3 and check. He speaks like the Adoring Fan. Very ecstatic, to say the least.

» Thu May 10, 2012 7:23 am

No, my champion got damage reflected.

» Thu May 10, 2012 8:52 am

And I believe the Champion of Cyrodiil is not Sheogorath.

Spoiler

Sheogorath appears in a quest. If our Champion of Cyrodiil is infact Sheogorath, he hasn't changed. Looks the same.

» Thu May 10, 2012 5:28 am

My level 63 Khajiit CoC, H'Skar DID NOT get murked by some scrub in the forest. I'll tell you that much.

» Thu May 10, 2012 12:43 pm

And I believe the Champion of Cyrodiil is not Sheogorath.

Spoiler

Sheogorath appears in a quest. If our Champion of Cyrodiil is infact Sheogorath, he hasn't changed. Looks the same.

deadric princes can take any form they see fit, and if the CoC did become sheogorah its safe to assume his mentality became the same, so he decided to look the same (the form he chooses is so he can appear as a banker, a perfectly sane man, to give the lucky soul who sees him more of an insanity spiral when he sees how insane this "banker" really is)

» Thu May 10, 2012 5:16 am

And I believe the Champion of Cyrodiil is not Sheogorath.

Spoiler

Sheogorath appears in a quest. If our Champion of Cyrodiil is infact Sheogorath, he hasn't changed. Looks the same.

Sheogorath is a Daedric prince, he can change his appearance whenever he wants.

» Thu May 10, 2012 10:54 am

And I believe the Champion of Cyrodiil is not Sheogorath.

Spoiler

Sheogorath appears in a quest. If our Champion of Cyrodiil is infact Sheogorath, he hasn't changed. Looks the same.

Spoiler

That's how the daedra work. When you become one of them, you slowly start to change into whichever daedra you are. That's why, in his quest in Skyrim, he says "I'm a Mad God. The Mad God, actually. It's a family title. Gets passed down from me to myself every few thousand years."

» Thu May 10, 2012 6:11 pm

It's not the same time as in Oblivion (3E_433)

» Thu May 10, 2012 7:47 am

deadric princes can take any form they see fit, and if the CoC did become sheogorah its safe to assume his mentality became the same, so he decided to look the same (the form he chooses is so he can appear as a banker, a perfectly sane man, to give the lucky soul who sees him more of an insanity spiral when he sees how insane this "banker" really is)

I figured.
I'm no lore buff, but I understand that the Arena Champion is the highest rank of the Arena, not necessarily the Champion of Cyrodiil. I also understand that the Champion of Cyrodiil must have been dead, or old at best. Could it possibly be the Champion? If not, could the assassin be the Adoring Fan?

» Thu May 10, 2012 6:07 pm

Spoiler

That's how the daedra work. When you become one of them, you slowly start to change into whichever daedra you are. That's why, in his quest in Skyrim, he says "I'm a Mad God. The Mad God, actually. It's a family title. Gets passed down from me to myself every few thousand years."

Actually, he said that because of the whole Jyggalag-to-Sheogorath cycle. But yeah, you're right.

» Thu May 10, 2012 7:54 am

I figured.
I'm no lore buff, but I understand that the Arena Champion is the highest rank of the Arena, not necessarily the Champion of Cyrodiil. I also understand that the Champion of Cyrodiil must have been dead, or old at best. Could it possibly be the Champion? If not, could the assassin be the Adoring Fan?

it was an adroing fan, i wonder if it was the adoring fan, i doubt it was out champion though, its posible thanks to the life span of mer (ugh, disgusting creatures). the adoring fan was a bosmer, but i dont think they livelonger than other races (not sure honestly), but if so it could have been him wo was the assasin

» Thu May 10, 2012 1:49 pm

Actually, he said that because of the whole Jyggalag-to-Sheogorath cycle. But yeah, you're right.

So...he's the Doctor now?

It make so much sense

http://gifsoup.com/view/1754114/hello-i-m-the-doctor.html

» Thu May 10, 2012 5:18 am

I figured.
I'm no lore buff, but I understand that the Arena Champion is the highest rank of the Arena, not necessarily the Champion of Cyrodiil. I also understand that the Champion of Cyrodiil must have been dead, or old at best. Could it possibly be the Champion? If not, could the assassin be the Adoring Fan?

You don't need to be a lore buff to spot a harmless easter egg

» Thu May 10, 2012 5:40 am

I checked the guy out. He was not a Bosmer. He was human. He wrote the journals in 4E 187, and currently lives in Skyrim. Can someone tell me how long that is? I'm not familiar with TES calendar.