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*Holds breath* I'm going in!

Ok BGSF, I'mma explain something that I saw today on TV. In England there is a dating show called 'Take me out'. The premise, is that there are 20 or so 'resident' girls. Each week a few guys go on to the show and try and choose a girl to date. The girls each have a light on the booth they're standing behind and if at any time they decide they don't like the guy, they can turn off their light, meaning the bloke in question can't pick them to date.

Anyway, one guy was on tonight who's job was as a fish monger. When the girls first saw him, most left their lights on, meaning they still liked him. He then proceeded to tell them he was a fish monger and about 90% turned off their lights.

I sat and thought about this for a while and wondered if I was just over thinking things, but to me that signifies the expectancy and attitude of my generation. The 18-27 or so era. People nowadays, especially girls (not all may I add) are vacuous. We live in a celebrity, get rich quick culture, where we all want something for nothing. Boys want to be footballers and girls want to sleep with footballers. We're overly materialistic and we've been brought up to expect great things from life, only to be left sourly disappointed when the world turns out to be not such a forgiving and easy place.

To me it seems like girls want a boyfriend who's a banker or sports star, they have overblown expectations and nice guys like our fish monger get left behind, why? Because his job isn't "glamorous."

I don't really know what my point is, it just struck me as a really shallow attitude for people to have and I felt ashamed of what some of us have become.

I think this quote applies especially well.

"Man, I see in Fight Club the strongest and smartest men who've ever lived. I see all this potential, and I see it squandered. [censored] it, an entire generation pumping gas, waiting tables – slaves with white collars. Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy [censored] we don't need. We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our great war is a spiritual war. Our great depression is our lives. We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars, but we won't. We're slowly learning that fact. And we're very, very pissed off."

To me it seems like girls want a boyfriend who's a banker or sports star, they have overblown expectations and nice guys like our fish monger get left behind, why? Because his job isn't "glamorous."

Probably because the whole "generational-decline" arguement has only been used for the past 100 years or so, and it's pretty hard to dis-agree that young people have gotten far more out-of-hand. As for being bitter I know I certainly am, because I'm just a quiet person who wants to sit in the corner and learn how to be a damn electrician without having my work stolen every few minutes to be plagerised by everyone else or something thrown at me for the henious crime of wearing different clothes and doing everyone elses work for them - and by different clothes it's a shirt and jumper, which is likened unto a suit by my classmates.

I know I'm better than these people, they cry that the college where at won't find them a work placement yet to absolutely no work in the class at all, they just sit around watching porm on their damn phones or nagging me for change.

The young people of today think of nothing but themselves. They have no reverence for parents or old age. They are impatient of all restraint. They talk as if they alone knew everything and what passes for wisdom with us is foolishness with them. As for girls, they are forward, immodest and unwomanly in speech, behaviour and dress.

The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority, they show disrespect to their elders... They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, pvssyr before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and are tyrants over their teachers.

Really? A little modesty would do you good.

It's not exactly a sixy job. And I know I like to date people with ambition. The ambition doesn't have to be "Make money" or "Have a big house" or "Get a fast car", but I do have to get the impression that they want something out of life. Unfortunately, fishmongering probably doesn't strike most people as an ambitious job.

a ) Someone has to do that job.
b ) You only know his job, and your saying he isnt ambitious. Maybe just maybe, he is satisfied with his current job. And is focusing on other things on his life.

If I met a girl IRL who was a fishmonger, I'd probably have more patience and try to see what kind of person she is apart from her job -- i.e. not judge a book by its cover.

But dating shows are all about superficiality, so...

Yes, he should pretend that people who do no work, then complain when they dont get what they wat. Are his equals.

No, some people are just inferior. I dont see an issue here.

Check http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2116295/New-Take-Me-Out-scandal-producers-tell-girls-partners-pick.html out.

Pretty much all the girls look too fake and wear too much make up. I wouldn't touch a single one of them.

You all strike me as bitter and deluded. There's tons of "nice" girls out there. Okay, it's sometimes hard to miss the ones who are loud and obnoxious and demanding and exhibitionist, but that doesn't mean they're a majority. Nor does it mean that they speak for their generation (or for their gender). But if you're looking for quiet girls you're looking in the wrong place, because they don't sign up for reality shows or dating websites, and if they do go out to clubs then they hide in the corner, or they get drunk enough to not be themselves for the night and fit in with their friends.

Or, maybe, even the girls in the club who are loud and drunk and annoying are really decent intelligent people the rest of the time? Maybe you're falling into the same mistake you accuse them of, and coming to a completely inaccurate judgement of them based on a tiny amount of experience of their personalities...?

This whole "generational decline" [censored] rhetoric has been played out over and over again and yet somehow the human race has perpetuated just the same all along. You people just get a kick about feeling better than everyone else.

As far as reality show contestants go, they always seem brainless and characterless regardless of origin. For example, almost every Norwegian male contestant looks like a metrosixual and acts like "blonde" women, and the women look all over-sixualized and act like "blonde" women with entitlement issues.

And for this "judging the book by its cover" angle, who haven't don that? We're all prejudice [censored]s to some degree, all trying to shun our own pettiness from the world. And when we see others pettiness, we point from out high horse and declare ourselves decent human beings, and those we point at, as shallow and petty.
Of course, some are indeed more shallow and petty than others and are in dire need of realization of reality, but still.

It's a reality TV show it's all scripted and they're just actors.

You want a World War, Great Depression,etc??

Except that he's not only talking about the inferior people in his class (who almost certainly aren't all like that) but about practically an entire generation. Honestly? Angry and bitter people like him sound to me like they're just crying about how nobody likes them and they have no friends, but instead of being honest about that they try to make themselves look superior to all those 'worthless, no-good miscreants' in order to feel better about their own lives.

And for this "judging the book by its cover" angle, who haven't don that? We're all prejudice [censored]s to some degree, all trying to shun our own pettiness from the world. And when we see others pettiness, we point from out high horse and declare ourselves decent human beings, and those we point at, as shallow and petty.
Of course, some are indeed more shallow and petty than others and are in dire need of realization of reality, but still.

I see what you're saying, your points are all valid. I've met tons of nice girls, I'm not some hermit that sits in and complains about the world constantly (only sometimes!). I'm a normal person with nice friends and a normal social life. I don't think I'm better than anyone, most of the time....sometimes you just are better than certain people, the Jeremy Kyle show always makes me feel better about myself.

It really is incredibly hard to not be judgemental.

not really.

I'm also a big fan of "self improvement" philosophy. It really is incredibly hard to not be judgemental. Maybe one day.

Yeah, it is. Try and not judge someone. Even when you think you're not, we're all making little judgements constantly. Everyone does it.