Console commands....on consoles

Post » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:07 pm

People seem to be confused and believe that I am demanding that the command system function in exactly the same way that it does for PC. That's foolish. A short list of basic commands would be more than enough to end my PC envy.

*Add level
*Add perk
*Add money
*Add bounty
*Decrease bounty
*Infinite health
*Infinite magica
*Infinite stamina
*Infinite arrows
*Raise dead

This is just off the top of my head, but obviously none of these features would break the game.


Trust me you will want alot more than that to make it worth it maybe even nearly all the ones the PC has as right now in the state the game is in alot of those are life savers.
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Post » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:37 pm

Trust me you will want alot more than that to make it worth it maybe even nearly all the ones the PC has as right now in the state the game is in alot of those are life savers.

No, I won't. I've played through the game twice. I assure you, I'm quite familiar with it. The comprehension levels of people in this thread truly amazes me. People going on about how you need a keyboard and console commands are developers tools. I don't understand what is so complicated about this. My xbox is not a PC and I do not desire for it to function as one. However, a few basic commands....scratch that. It doesn't even need to be a command console. Just a few basic cheats made available to console gamers which are already available for the PC is by no means an unreasonable request
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Post » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:34 pm

A computer able to play skyrim very well costs only about $700 (Including monitor, keyboard and mouse). And before you knock that as being high, remember that extra $10 or so most all console games cost over their PC counterpart (Until recently that is)


Er...I know Skyrim has low PC requirements, but $700>$10

I'd have to buy 70 games before I saw a difference against my favor, and that's just if I wanted a PC that could only play Skyrim--I know for a fact that the vast majority of PC games require much greater specs :facepalm:
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Post » Sat Dec 17, 2011 12:33 am

Anyway, I won't argue any more. As I've said, OP made inarguable points, and I don't see why he has to say the same thing over and over again before people will stop asking him to repeat himself.

I guess I'm just too tired for this; there's no real reason this can't be implemented into the game, at least as a cheat function.
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Post » Sat Dec 17, 2011 12:02 am

No, I won't. I've played through the game twice. I assure you, I'm quite familiar with it. The comprehension levels of people in this thread truly amazes me. People going on about how you need a keyboard and console commands are developers tools. I don't understand what is so complicated about this. My xbox is not a PC and I do not desire for it to function as one. However, a few basic commands....scratch that. It doesn't even need to be a command console. Just a few basic cheats made available to console gamers which are already available for the PC is by no means an unreasonable request


You know, there IS a solution if all you want is cheats: Game Shark or Pro Action Replay or whatever the hot new cheat tool is for consoles. Just buy a copy of that.
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Post » Sat Dec 17, 2011 1:53 am

No, I won't. I've played through the game twice. I assure you, I'm quite familiar with it. The comprehension levels of people in this thread truly amazes me. People going on about how you need a keyboard and console commands are developers tools. I don't understand what is so complicated about this. My xbox is not a PC and I do not desire for it to function as one. However, a few basic commands....scratch that. It doesn't even need to be a command console. Just a few basic cheats made available to console gamers which are already available for the PC is by no means an unreasonable request


What I meant by wanting more than those options involve what can be done via the console for not only fun or jokes ( like marry practically anyone). To by passing a broken section of a quest because you had no idea it was broken till it was too late and a back up save is hours from the point you were at. It's possible for consoles so why short change yourself in a request? As for your question about what is so complicated truth be told it isn't complicated not really its just not a priority as of yet it may be some day in fact you may see it coming to consoles if enough people asked for it. Why they didn't do it from the start is more simply a reason of as I said priority they just didn't think console players would miss it or they just didn't like how sloppy or clunky it would look to pause game then shuffle over and click console commands then insert command using the virtual keyboard with a controller (though both the ps3 and xbox supports keyboards) I tend to think also that they leave some things about the game exclusive to the PC as some way of saying "we still appreciate our pc gamers so we will give you a few extras consoles will not get."
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Post » Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:52 pm

As previously mentioned part of the reason debug commands have been removed would be that it could allow achievements to be 'cheated' through. Coding around this could be arranged, of course, but the full command console on console formats will never happen in this generation of consoles. Sony and Microsoft have quite specific rules on removing all debug functionality from a product before Master. If they find anything they will fail submission there and then, regardless of the state of the game.

As such it's just not possible to have access to that kind of debugging tools. It's not Bethesda's fault on this one.
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Post » Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:26 pm

Back in the day, cheat codes were designed to allow the developers to better test the game. Command consoles have replaced cheat codes and allow a far greater freedom of control over the game while playing.

Developers do not program in commands for the purpose of cheating, as such, they will never add a "basic" set of commands for console users. They made the command console for them to use. PC users have access to it because we can undo any stupidity we may do with it, as well as use it to test mods. The ability to cheat with it is just how some use it, but it was never its intent.


I'm sorry, but you are debating from a completely false premise.

There is nothing in the console commands for any TES game which can break my console. Nothing, nothing at all. And if you think otherwise, quote specific commands and why.

As a general rule for all things computing - entering things into the command line is not going to break your hardware, and it is certainly not going to break the limited sandbox which a console game is allowed to manipulate. If XBox or PS3 titles were allowed to generally write to the filesystem, I could see your point - I don't want a random console script eliminating my console hard drive by mistake. But that is not the case.

The only reason this is not allowed on consoles is just tradition and design. Which I could allow if Bethesda could write quests which didn't require console commands to fix - but they don't, and the quests do need console commands to fix .... so give the console users a .... console.
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Post » Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:12 pm

As previously mentioned part of the reason debug commands have been removed would be that it could allow achievements to be 'cheated' through. Coding around this could be arranged, of course, but the full command console on console formats will never happen in this generation of consoles. Sony and Microsoft have quite specific rules on removing all debug functionality from a product before Master. If they find anything they will fail submission there and then, regardless of the state of the game.

As such it's just not possible to have access to that kind of debugging tools. It's not Bethesda's fault on this one.
Why do I continuously need to repeat myself over and over and over again? Seriously, that's not a rhetorical question. Please answer it.
As I have stated many times in this very thread, using a "cheat" would disable all achievements. The same as it is for the 1,000 other games on the 360 which enable cheats. Once again, as I have said many times, I do not expect or want to be able to do everything on an xbox that a PC can do. A limited version with basic commands is all I have been saying since the OP that no one read.
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Post » Fri Dec 16, 2011 3:10 pm

Impossible, it would require that the console itself be workable with a controller in the first place (how the hell they do that is beyond me), not only that it would require a keyboard if they couldnt get a controller to work, which neither Microsoft or Sony want to do.

Next problem, it has the ability to destabilise the game and thus the system, flat out no.

So basically no.

there is a keyboard on xbox, when you add ppl on xbl you use a keyboard, when you type your skyrim name you use a keyboard? you ever had a xbox? Or if they wanted, they can use button combinations, like most other games do.
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Post » Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:51 pm

Haha, this should grind your gears OP, just look at this snippet of information:

"Bethesda also announced last week that they’d be launching a Skyrim Creation Kit next month for PC, so you guys don’t even have to wait for them to release DLC, you can make your own."


More reason's to own a pc then, even though I'm an xbox user, but wishes I was a pc user with all the console commands including the testing hall with a simple coc qasmoke and able to change your body and face with showracemenu with the exception of changing race which will just reset all your attributes, but knowing the pc version, you will probably be able to get these back!

WinterHold.
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Post » Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:27 pm

Cheat codes =/= command console.


Unless the cheat code system was made to be similar to the console commands on PC. Instead of "Unlimited HP" or whatever, they'd have things such as Revive NPC. You would then go into a pause mode and select the NPC you want to revive. Or they could make it even more like the console commands, and have a type-in box and a list of commands you could do. Granted, you wouldn't be able to do EVERYTHING you could do on a PC, like raise the graphics to system breaking levels, but you could at least revive NPCs, remove bugged items and Constant effects, add quest items that are now unobtainable, or set people such as bandits or w/e as followers.

I have an Amulet of Talos that is considered a quest item, except that I also have two others that are in the same stack as it. I have no clue what quest needs an Amulet of Talos, possible because I don't even have a quest requiring one, but I now have three Amulets that I can't get rid of at all. With console commands, I may be able to drop them or turn them into non-quest items, but disappointingly, I play on the 360, so that isn't an option. However, I believe it could be, if Bethesda put in a 'cheat' system that had similar abilities to console commands.
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