Dawnguard should not be allowed to turn into a vampire lord : V

» Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:12 am

This takes away the main reason for even joining the vampires. The most the vampires get are some things that make it a bit more effective, but not enough to justify giving this ability to the dawnguard. I don't see vampires getting crossbows, and being allowed to smith crossbows and crossbow bolts, so why are the dawnguard getting the ability to transform into a vampire lord? If Bethesda won't let the vampires permanently block out the sun then the least they could do is give players who join the vampires exclusivity to the vampire lord form.

» Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:45 pm

i agree.

» Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:35 pm

Huh, I would find it weird that a character who's a vampire HUNTER, would take on the very curse that they are trying to eliminate.

» Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:42 pm

Huh, I would find it weird that a character who's a vampire HUNTER, would take on the very curse that they are trying to eliminate.

You don't have to, but the fact that dawnguard even gets the option is ridiculous. Why take away the main reason to join the vampires?

» Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:10 pm

You don't have to, but the fact that dawnguard even gets the option is ridiculous. Why take away the main reason to join the vampires?

Well, Harkon more or less forces himself on you, and you do get the option to get rid of it, so there's roleplaying potential there.
"Oh no, now I'm a monster! I need to cure myself of this before it consumes me!"
Stuff like that.

» Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:29 pm

Yeah, when I read that Dawnguard members could become VL's later on, it pissed me off. I literally played through the VL questline for like 14 hours straight, and I'm not planning on loading up a save from that far back.

» Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:23 am

Well, Harkon more or less forces himself on you, and you do get the option to get rid of it, so there's roleplaying potential there.
"Oh no, now I'm a monster! I need to cure myself of this before it consumes me!"
Stuff like that.

I understand, but that still doesn't justify it. You can deny Harkon and leave when you first go there. That's where the questlines split. The people that side with Harkon should be the only ones able to turn into vampire lords.

» Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:31 pm

I understand, but that still doesn't justify it. You can deny Harkon and leave when you first go there. That's where the questlines split. The people that side with Harkon should be the only ones able to turn into vampire lords.

Well...In that case, I can offer this bit of wisdom...
*pulls out his megaphone and puts it to Big Punishers ear*
IT'S A SINGLE PLAYER GAME.
*puts it away*
...What some other schmuck does in his game, no matter the choice is their business...Getting all bent out of shape over something that impacts you only merely emotionally, is a personal hangup, and offers no wisdom or value.

» Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:22 am

you do it for love for serana, but it is neat to see that mabey not all vamps are bad and he could be good

» Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:27 pm

Well...In that case, I can offer this bit of wisdom...
*pulls out his megaphone and puts it to Big Punishers ear*
IT'S A SINGLE PLAYER GAME.
*puts it away*
...What some other schmuck does in his game, no matter the choice is their business...Getting all bent out of shape over something that impacts you only merely emotionally, is a personal hangup, and offers no wisdom or value.

Well, in that case I, as a vampire, would like to smith crossbows and crossbow bolts. Also, I realize it's a single player game, but making one questline completely inferior to the other is just bad designing.

» Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:22 pm

Well...In that case, I can offer this bit of wisdom...
*pulls out his megaphone and puts it to Big Punishers ear*
IT'S A SINGLE PLAYER GAME.
*puts it away*
...What some other schmuck does in his game, no matter the choice is their business...Getting all bent out of shape over something that impacts you only merely emotionally, is a personal hangup, and offers no wisdom or value.

This... Vampires should be able to craft crossbows and bolts as well.

» Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:53 am

HOLY CRAP! Lolz didn't know Dawnguard could be a Vampire Lord too, my descion is going to Dawnguard then so thats, but I agree with you.

» Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:58 am

Well, in that case I, as a vampire, would like to smith crossbows and crossbow bolts.

Wish in one hand, piss in the other wilst waiting for a patch. See which gets filled faster.

» Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:32 am

Wish in one hand, piss in the other wilst waiting for a patch. See which gets filled faster.

Please read my edited post.

» Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:50 am

Whether it's inferior or superior depending on which side gets the [censored]ing crossbow crafting is a matter of opinion...
Personally, I find bows to be superior.
I am literally rolling by eyes that this Crossbow nonsense is such a deal breaker. Materialism.

» Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:36 pm

Well, in that case I, as a vampire, would like to smith crossbows and crossbow bolts. Also, I realize it's a single player game, but making one questline completely inferior to the other is just bad designing.

And also a good point, bethesda made this dlc seem so vampire focused but its more dawnguard. I don't understand why bethesda decided to take away a highly asked for weapon from certain players.

» Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:25 am

...What some other schmuck does in his game, no matter the choice is their business...Getting all bent out of shape over something that impacts you only merely emotionally, is a personal hangup, and offers no wisdom or value.

100% Agree!!! Its Your Sandbox! Free to do what You Want/Play how You Want!

» Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:30 pm

Whether it's inferior or superior depending on which side gets the [censored]ing crossbow crafting is a matter of opinion...
Personally, I find bows to be superior.
I am literally rolling by eyes that this Crossbow nonsense is such a deal breaker. Materialism.

Either you don't understand or you're just fanatically defending Bethesda's stupid design choice. I think it may be the latter.

» Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:51 pm

100% Agree!!! Its Your Sandbox! Free to do what You Want/Play how You Want!

So you completely support vampires getting screwed over, while dawnguard gets most of the benefits?

» Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:23 pm

I would also like to use the face-changer. But vampires can't even use that :cry:

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» Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:02 pm

Dont nerf the DG; give all the crossbow types and bolts and armored trolls to the Vampires too. And Face-changes OFC.

» Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:15 am

I would also like to use the face-changer. But vampires can't even use that :cry:

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I completely forgot about that. Another thing vampires get screwed over on.

» Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:07 am

Either you don't understand or you're just fanatically defending Bethesda's stupid design choice. I think it may be the latter.

I would say that I don't understand why the Crossbows are such a big deal. I still got one as a vampire. It's a basic one, but I still have one. It does it's job as a weapon, but I am not holding it aloft as though it is the reason I bought the DLC.

» Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:05 pm

So you completely support vampires getting screwed over, while dawnguard gets most of the benefits?

So then you want your hands Tied... To be led and not have the inclination to decide if you want to or not... Restrictions on how you play in your sandbox... ppl say they want features and when they do get them they complain... Fickle, I say... IMO

» Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:18 am

you do it for love for serana, but it is neat to see that mabey not all vamps are bad and he could be good

she sound slike the voice actress that does Kira from Old Republic. I have her going with me everywhere now I maxed out my vamp perks.