Not if you actually, gasp, keep politics out of it. I took the purpose of this thread as a general reminder to get out and vote, and as a chance to let people know that despite what the kids on the internet say, your vote actually DOES matter.


Overly convoluted, much? While I agree that the campaign shift is something that needs to happen, making it a "smarter people count more than you plebians" system is just fundamentally wrong.

Was it too convoluted? You apparently didn't read it.

Never did I say or imply it was a matter of intelligence. I only said it's a matter of who knows enough about who they're voting for to make an informed decision. Why should those who actually care not be rewarded?

We want informed citizens, do we not? If the citizens aren't informed, democracy really isn't working the way it's supposed to work.

Are you going to add anything to the thread?

Keeping politics out of a thread about election day... yeah ok buddy. Whatever floats your boat man.

Because you're not a special and unique snowflake, and your input doesn't matter one whit more than the guy next to you, regardless of how superior you may feel.

You're still talking about how the system is. I'm talking about how the system should be. Get your head out of the now and look ahead. A bonus for informed citizens is only going to improve the system. Argue otherwise.

Yep.


http://brettmw.hubpages.com/hub/4-Reasons-Why-Your-Vote-for-US-President-Doesnt-Matter.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal."

Not "All men are created equal, but some are more equal than others if you take this quiz real quick."

Argued. Declaration of Independence'd.

It's all just a petty game, people get so rustled over it. Your a fool if you think either candidate will lead us to prosperity.

....Animal Farm.

I thought this thread was about "election day" (should be voting day).

Newsflash: there are positions other than the President up for election, not to mention state and local ordinances and statutes.

Still not following me. All men are created equal. All men (and women) get one vote. All men can inform themselves. If they do, they get a bonus vote. It's not the man getting special treatment because he was created better than the rest. He gets special treatment because he put in the effort to learn about what he's actually voting for. It's the same reason not everyone gets the same paycheck, or the same benefits, or goes to the same college.

To clarify, in my system these questions before the vote will not be hard, and will be entirely optional. They'll be pretty simple stuff. Anyone who reads the bullet points of the debates should get them. The quiz would have, say, three questions pulled randomly from a list of a couple dozen. One about candidate A, one about candidate B, one about some general issue or difference between the two. The issues are about big policies, not specifics. Stuff like "What is candidate A's policy on trade with China?" and you have 4 or so answers to choose from. Get two of the questions right and you win. This isn't a matter of intelligence. It's a matter of knowing simple but relevant trivia.

The PIGS will have the milk and the apples. Four legs good, two legs...

Election 2012: Who's Smarter Than A 5th Grader Edition!

Reality Television, without the TV!

http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2461#comic

That's a very smart quote. But you said...
That is not being politically informed as the quote you used does imply. What you stated is that one should exercise one's own right to vote regardless of how informed one may be. Which is just being lazy.

Keep making jokes since you have no argument.

A quippy comic that doesn't even relate to any of my points. You're better than this, Defron.

Edit: if you'd like to offer a reasoned rebuttal, you're more than welcome to take to PM.

If you're all for mint-flavored Crest, then you're all for mint-flavored Crest. If that's a vote against cinnamon-flavored Colgate, so be it.

My argument is just that: This isn't a freakin' quiz show on GameShow Network. You don't get bonus points for going into the showcase showdown. You get one vote. Your vote counts for one vote. You can't get extra credit like you did in high school. You're not a special and unique snowflake.

You said voting means absolutely nothing, it only means absolutely nothing because you don't vote. (converse of the statement is its own explanation). As I pointed out, there is a plethora of things besides the presidency that are decided by popular vote so your vote really does mean something in those matters even if you hold the idea of voting in presidential elections to be meaningless.

I've voted, though I won't say for whom though.

I'm not too big into politics. A couple of the issues that were raised over the course of these campaigns are pretty important and I think a few decent points have been made, but a lot of what makes people vote just boils down to personal ideals.

I voted today but I don't understand why would a Pizza Roll want to run for president?

That's a good idea always IMO. Even in the real world, very little good and sometimes some bad comes from saying who you voted for.

I'll probably vote a bit before dinner, some time after school.

A bear there was a bear, a BEAR...

All black and brown and covered in hair...