I will never buy a console. I have a PC and I can play almost any game in existence on my PC even console games can be played on my PC with the use of emulators. Not all, but many. They didnt make Halo 3 for the PC and even though I own 1 and 2 for the PC there is no way i will ever buy a console just to play halo 3. I am insulted and offended by this [censored] move.

Edit: I know its emulated for the PC nowadays but I just dont care anymore about halo 3.

What Raben said.

You can hook up a controller to your PC, hook up your PC to a TV, and sit on your couch. The advantages of consoles have now disappeared.

I don't want to start a flame war either. I've spent most of my gaming career on a console and have only gotten into PC gaming in the past few years (discounting some games I played when I was young.) But now I can't really see any reason to get one of the consoles. Any advantages I thought the had, and that people in general argue that they have, are based on a misunderstanding of the adaptability of the PC. They are just as easy to use. I have an XBOX controller adapter and an HDMI cable that hooks up my rig to my big screen.

The only advantage I can really see is that for a console your any warranty repairs do not require customer diagnosis and you can send everything to one place, rather than having different manufacturers for your different parts. But honestly, if you're willing to pay a little bit to a computer shop, this problem goes away as well. And besides, if you take care of your equipment (as in not dropping it or spilling on it) this should only very rarely come up.

So to the OP, I would suggest buying a new gaming PC "just for ESO." It'll cost you slightly more money, but you'll get a better gaming experience with more games for less money, better graphics, faster performance, a more mature community, and much easier upgrades.

Your PS4 will still be a PS4 5 years from now. If you get a PC, you can swap out one part (graphics card) for a couple hundreds bucks and it'll be like getting a whole new machine (the difference in graphics/performance can be like a console generation.)

Honestly, I'm almost glad that Microsoft made so many offensive attempts to limit consumer rights. If they hadn't, I might very well never have looked into PC gaming seriously. Once I did, I was surprised how easy it was to learn about and get into.

How was Grand Theft Auto V and The Last of Us? Did you enjoy them? I'll bet you're also looking forward to Bungie's Destiny.

My point is, consoles offer a lot of entertainment value and have some seriously great games available for them that aren't available on the PC. I just don't get the whole pc v consoles argument. As a gamer, there are many advantages for owning a PC but there are just as many advantages for owning a console. Me, I own them both, considering you would never buy a console I can tell you you've missed out. A lot.

But..why are PS4 AND Xbox on different servers..they're both consoles. It seems so unnecessary.

Steady on there tiger. I could remind you of the World of Warcraft community which, last time I checked, was a PC only game, but to save any arguments I won't point that out.

There are many other points from your quote that I could counter but I don't have time to sift through it. Lets just leave it at that and not start a ridiculous console v pc war.

I don't think Microsoft and Sony play nicely together Bluesnacks, I'm pretty sure you're aware of that, if you're not... they don't.

Yeah but fudge them..it's zenimax's servers

I havent missed out on anything. I get far more entertainment value from my PC than I would from any console. Though I suppose I could have more if i owned both, but I dont see a need for it.

Piracy is an issue on all platforms.

Oblivion, FNV, and Skyrim were pirated on all platforms, of course, but the first pirated versions were the console ones.

I'm getting the PS4 for 3 games:

ESO,

Witcher 3 (due late 2014/early 2015),

Dragon Age 3 (due some time in 2014 I think).

Therefore I won't buy one until Spring 2014 unless I get on the beta for ESO.

Because they each have different networking setups. For the PS4 youre going to do multiplayer (and therefore PvP) via the Playstation Network. Microsoft has a completely different network all proprietary so unless there's some kind of "cloud" out there for both of them to share, they will have to be on different servers.

I have a good gaming PC, but I'll be buying ESO for Ps4, because that is the platform my friends will be on.

On a side note, saying you're insulted and offended due to ESO being put on consoles is so face palm worthy, I feel like I need to dress up for the occasion.

And before anyone else says something stupid, admitting you're playing console only games on a pc is stupid, m'kay?

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Soooooo, I really shouldn't discuss my skooma manufacture enterprise?

Well, at one point someone posted about their friend bringing a pipe bomb and a weapon to school. That had an ATF agent on the forums for a while.

So if it is in RL, it would probably be a bad idea.

In-game religion, in-game politics, in-game criminal enterprises are fair game. Unfortunately. :shudders: Civil war and storm cloak/empire threads......

Its unnecessary for consoles and PCs to be separated as well. I thought the whole point of the megaserver was to keep friends together? Its not really a megaserver if its split by region (US/EU) as well as by console.

My cynical take on it is that its a greed thing coming from Sony/Microsoft.

I agree that I don't want this. I still have an XBOX 360 and I still play some games on it (mostly just Halo 4.)

Your point about great console exclusives is a good one. Personally, I'm going to miss Halo, a lot. Its a series that has a lot of sentimental value for me, right up there with TES. I grew up playing it and have sunk sooo many hours into Halo multiplayer that I can almost not imagine missing the next in the series.

To the first part, also a great reason to play on console. Though as I said earlier, they could circumvent that whole mentality if they could convince Sony and Microsoft to let us all play together.

To the second part, very much agree. They made decisions like minimalist UI, limited hot bar, ect. way before they planned to be on consoles. People who think those things are the result of going to consoles simply haven't been following the game for long enough to know.

Come on now. When Skyrim first released, those were solid topics. Its just that any conversation gets stale when its done to death.

you do not want sony and microsoft fans in the same place at the same time lol

People on Xbox and Playstation can play with PC players in other games, that point is kind of moot. MMO servers can be designed to handle consoles and PC, and there's no reason Console/console should be separated.

Agree.

This is one decision I really wish they would reverse.

Why?

They aren't rabid and bloodthirsty..why do people assume they are going find each other irl and kill each other? Or yell at each other 24/7?

Maybe the articles about video game violence are right then?

Most people can handle each other..people that start arguments are going to do it anyways

SteamBox here.

If this game even supports Steam.

Wanted to buy an Xbox One for Killer Instinct (gotta get dat Spinal), but I'm likely gonna hold off for a while. Regardless, I'm playing ESO on my PC, on the off chance that add-ons might become relevant to some degree. If not, I'd still prefer PC because I sometimes listen to podcasts in the background of MMOs I play.

As for the servers between platforms, I can sorta understand making them separate, but I'd still prefer them all share. They can all use controllers and (if I recall right for the consoles) keyboard and mouse, so the control scheme wouldn't be a major issue. If population is the problem it's more understandable and totally reasonable, but I'd think pulling off major phasing and segregation would solve that. But I'm not a scientician or anything.

Edit: Oh, I see, I can talk about Spinal but bones in the shapes of crosses are just out of the equation, eh, censors?

@Nordjitsu.

Skyrim is/war huge success on Steam, btw, it break Steam's record when it was launched so its kinda obvious its there? Bethesda also belong to the Steam-gang.