How is that cheating? You aren't taking a shortcut. There is no other way to accomplish that.

A person can do anything they want to.

They do not have to give themselves gold if they do not want.

Our definitions of cheating are different. In my opinion giving oneself "...all of the items that are impossible to obtain without use of console commands..." is cheating.

Yes, and there is a reason for it. You are still cheating to acquire unobtainnable items.

Transfering save file from xbox 360 to pc, then load it on PC and get all the items you want/edit your character/fix bugs such as unable to get out of Map X, so you use tcl to untrap yourself.
Brilliant work i say.

It works with Xbox because that was designed by Microsoft and the files are compatible with Microsoft PC software which is why the Xbox controller works with a PC as well. It won't work with PS3.

As well as altering one's stat via console commands.

Console commands can be very useful, and not all of them are cheats, but using them to alter your stats in any way, as well as using them to get unobtainable items is considered cheating,. You can try rationalizing it all you like, but it still doesn't change that cheating is still cheating, no matter which way you slice it.

Really?

What happened to the part where you said "making your character into an uber-god like character"?


You completely put words into my mouth.


I also never said "give yourself ALL unobtainable items."


This is for people who want to have the freedom to do anything that they want to do with it.

It is called information.

It is not trying to encourage cheating.

What is your problem?

I don't care how many gold stars you have.

You didn't even know what you were talking about when you flamed my topic.

I never said that the xbox transfer thing was solely for the purpose of making an uber god character.

I said it was for console commands, which includes being able to edit your character at any time mid game.

All the way to giving yourself a unique piece of unobtainable clothing impossible to have on 360.


You didn't need to attack me in my topic, and I don't appreciate it.

If I could, i gladly would.
Unfortunatley, some people arent lucky enough to have the highest end technology.
Goddangit.

No high end technology required.

I am stupid with computers.

Never played a game on PC in my life.

He never mentioned anything about his gold stars, so no need to bring them into this and in your first post you only mentioned 1 time anything about editing your characters face(hair,beard etc.) you mentioned beefing up your stats(cheating), add any and all unobtainable items(cheating). Also didnt you say you were done with this and were leaving(twice)?

...cheating accusations aside (and lets be honest, who cares if they do, if it's fun for them then fine), this does allow one to get around bugs. I got bugged out of two houses, so I could grant them to myself, and leave the cost of the house + decorations in the jarls palace no?

Some could 'cheat', others could work around bugs. There's plenty of positive in this. Poor old OP took the bait though, shame

Nice job OP, would be useful to remove the atomic nirnroot glows and the other minor(but game breaking) bugs. Don't mind the trolls, their just defensive cause a console player figured out how to use a PC only perk which EVERY PC PLAYER USES!! I'll have to get a lone of my brothers PC copy and give it a go, perhaps I can finally fix the stuff Beth. are ignoring.

This is interesting to know, but honestly I don't think it's worth the cost of a new or used game to do; unless I manage to obtain a copy for next to nothing like I did for the 360 lol.

And! That's if the game isn't coded to kill it's self if some specs aren't up to snuff, like some games.

This is... awesome. I've recently had a glitch in the TG Questline. Got my xbox save loaded on my computer and fixed it via console commands. And now I got Ulfrics Robes without being forced to join the imperial legion. Also nice to have psijic robes. They look good on my altmer mage.

I didn't used it for stats tho. This isn't needed if you want a uber powerful character. I made one. He's the most boring char ever now. It's cool to have no cooldown at shouts of course but really that's about it. Everything else got boring really fast.

The words "...all of the items that are impossible to obtain without use of console commands..." was cut-and-pasted from your opening post.



I'm not attacking your topic. This is ia discussion forum. We are here to offer opinions. Just as you are free to offer information on using console commands on the XBox, so I am free to offer my opinions about what you say. That is what we do here. If you don't like hearing someone with a different opinion you're in the wrong place.

I made it very clear in my opening post (which was the only one that was directed toward you or your topic) that I thought everybody ought to play the way they want to play. I stand by that statement. I will say it again: if anybody wants to change their character mid-game, it's their business. I'm not going to try to stop you.

But when you say people SHOULD do this, I am going to voice my opinion. And if you don't like people disagreeing with you should avoid making threads on public forums. If you do start threads, expect some disagreements now and then. That is the way human communication works.

I am not going to say anymore to you about it.

How did you get around the converting the flash drive? I thought about this a while ago but when I tried I had to convert the flash drive to work with the xbox, but then it wouldn't work on the PC ( I was unable to view the files on the flash drive.)

You did attack the OP by calling it cheating. It`s no more cheating then a PC player using console command thank you very much and on a side note this gives 360 owners a chance to fix bugs that PC has been able to fix all along. How can there be "cheating" in a single player game? There isn't, the only one that it's affecting is the player.

If You had bothered to read his post he was EXPRESSING his opinion, it is the internet, If you dont like people having different opinions than you just leave.

i dont see why you guys are trippin. its a cool idea. i bought skyrim for pc in hope that i would have access to mods, but as it turns out my pc isn't quite good enough to run it. but i now i get access to things like the greybeards robes which i have wanted since the first time a saw them. yes you can cheat if you want, but its cool that we can access to those things

LOL.

There is no possible way to obtain unobtainable items on PC or on consoles.

The only way to ever see yourself wearing unobtainable (most of it awesome looking), is through the use of the console.

Why would Beth have made it possible to equip these items? Obviously, it is okay to have them.

There is no legitimate way to ever qcquire unobtainables.

The console is the only way. 1 way.

So by actually getting these items, through the only way there is to get them, it is cheating?


Like I said. Idiot.

Then in this case cheating isn't bad. Infact I feel stupid and one sided for ever seeing cheating as "bad". Everything has its use.

exactly. If he wants to "cheat" let him "cheat"

Geez, a course of action that could fix gamebreaking bugs for consoles is put forward, and the thread erupts into an argument over how some people, on their OWN games, not ours, might beef their stats? Really? Can we not abide the thought of others having fun in a way different to ours?

How sad