These end of the world, game will be garbage threads just days after the reveal is insane. We are assuming here that we know so much about the game based off of two screens?

1) Who cares if the game plays like WoW so long as they make the story engaging and the exploration is fun and exciting? World of Warcraft is doing something correctly as they still have millions of people playing. I no longer play WoW but as somebody who is equipped with a brain I understand how the MMO industry works, and that it is a business.

2) Understand that no game, not one, is catered to you specifically unless you are creating it. While it would be nice for a game to fit all of your specific criteria, this will not be the case. If there were a game out there that did, you would still be immersed in that game and not played another one since.

3) Make no mistake about this, if Bethesda thought this game would flop, they wouldn't support it.

4) In todays day and age not one MMORPG has lived up to the hype. Games like AoC and WAR were promised to be the heir of WoW and be the next MMO to maintain millions of players and then they flopped. Games like Mortal and Darkfall were so different that they would carve their own niche in the market, and a large one at that. Those sandbox games were broke. SWTOR was announced and with BioWare behind it, and EA supplying bags of gold to fund the game, and with the Star Wars IP there was no way the game would flop, right?

So, instead of declaring this game the next coming, or completely dead, why not wait a little longer before jumping to conclusions. Developers have always oversold and the players always get let down. Why don't we take a different approach as a community for once and just relax, and wait for more information, screens, videos, and a Beta before going over the top to either side of the fence?

Just wait.

Log into TES:O-

"WELCOME TO ------! *Random tip of the day that probably doesn't help all that much*!"
*Enter Major town*
"NOOB FIGHT ME!"
"COME@ME BRO I GOT DAEDRIC!!!!!"
"SELLING CLOTH SHOES!!!!"
"YOU ALL svck N00BS!"

If you can't handle that environment you can play on an RP server, or maybe MMORPGs aren't your cup of tea. The single player forums are on the other side of town.

your arguments are wrong. I do care if the game plays like WoW. while i hardly care about its story.

And just cause other games failed its now acceptable to fail too? Its not. And recently weve seen quite a few games that actually delivered some quality content.

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Don't get me wrong, I like some MMORPGs, I just can't picture this working out. TES is supposed to be a mature environment, it won't work...

What if they require a 15$ Payment? Most people will just stick with WoW... If it's free how will they make money? Sell items in game and make money which makes people rich as early as they want?

This guy know's a good MMO- Most people who play don't go "Oh hey, I love this storyline!"

No. People want the best items, to kill stuff, make tons of virtual cash, and be the best. Who gives a flying [censored] about Story on an MMO? Not many...

Can't you do this in World of Warcraft? You know, that game that so many here are screaming for this game to not be like? Oh wait, you can get the best items, make tons of virtual cash, and be the best in that game in every single game every created that has cash and items.

I don't think you'll stem the tide of people wanting to jump to ridiculous conclusions about a game based on one preview and a few screenshots. But good on you for trying.

I wish I could say that things will get better after more information comes out, but more people are going to make more noise regardless of how good things look. Same thing happened with Skyrim.

And this will be no different. Storyline doesn't sell an MMO, mechanics, style, and PvP/PvE play will.

How will this be a good MMO? Will we get Skills- by this I mean weapon skills instead of running around slashing [censored] up like other TES'. This is an online game, therefor leveling should provide us with Skill points to be put into skills of our choice. On top of melee skills, we need to also be able to do other things for more leisure play- Alchemy, Enchanting, and the others. How will the Thief style be added..?

If it wants to fair well against other MMOs, it also needs other things like Fishing - Cooking (or use fish for Alchemy) AND Mining-Smithing.

It has a lot to live up to... And it needs to try to be better then other MMOs.. We'll see I guess

This is the best part of your post. This attitude will save you so much time and potential stress or aggravation. Give it time, we will see. The game is still, at best, a year away.

1)You seems to forget that WoW isn't the only MMO on earth, there are other MMO like Tera wich have real-time combat and is going to be a huge success, there are MMO like EVE wich are completely unique, and there are also MMOFPS like Planetscape. If I want to play a game with GW2 mechanics, I play GW2, not TES:O. If Im going to play TES:O, I want it's gameplay to take the most unique characteristic from the TES franchise. And the two principal are real-time combat and skill-based progression.
I read books for the story, I watch movies and TV-shows for the story, I play RPG for the story. I mainly play MMORPG for gameplay and exploration. So far, TES:O only have the exploration part.

2)Nope. TES games have a "target", this target has gradually expanded to become the TES fandom. Those people are the first who are going to buy TES games, and TES games are mostly marketed to them (even if they also expand their target to gain new players and futur fans). If you put the "TES" license on a game, then those people will believe that it will be marketed to them.
The problem is, that TES:O isn't marketed toward TES fans or MMORPG fans. The first want a TRUE TES MMO, and the second wants new things, what pleased the fans in the TES games would have pleased those MMORPG fans, but instead they get TES : GW2.

3)Bethesda do what they have to do. It doesn't make it right or bad.

4)I really hope that this game will change. But the first news are really disapointing. If this keep on, it WILL crash.

Keep pushing away the facts and you should live pretty well in your dream world of "TES:O WILL BE EPIC AND 1337!@"

Right. Because everyone who doesn't make up elaborate stories based on one line in a preview is completely deluded.

You're literally taking a single fact from one preview article, and blowing it out of proportion into some kind of wild theory about the overall mechanics of the game.

I won't respond to all of your post, but I will respond to the first part. How do you know Tera will be a huge success? Hasn't that been stated about just every MMO that was in development at one time? I never claimed WoW was the only MMO out there as I have played many in my time in the mmo scene. That is why it makes it that much easier for me to tell everyone to stop getting worked up over nothing. We have basically no information about this game yet. Wait.

People don't think that WoW is the only MMO, but it's the only pay-to-play MMORPG that's been so successful. I'm not sure of exact number for other RPGs, but I'm quite certain that WoW's consistently growing playerbase is at least 5 times the size of any other MMO (at their peak).

Elaborate stories? I didn't make a story, I laid down some facts.

They may have released information on it, but they did horribly. They need to give much info at once to start some nice hype.

The only reason there's any good/ok hype for this game is the fact that it carries the name "TES".

I play games for the story, and that's why I don't play most MMOs. Ever since WoW vanilla, Blizzard's gutted themes of their races or marginalized important characters. Now, almost every female lead from Jaina to Tyrande is either batsh!t insane, or a crying wreck that needs a man to hug. Plus, I play games to get away from people, not meet more of them.

Now I'm not saying that ESO will be bad. I'm excited as all heck for Guild Wars 2 since it's built on character development and a personal story, than getting some obscure shoulder armor from a boss so that you can raid other dungeons for more gear. If ESO if like GWS or LOTRO, in that its based on the ES values of immersive world, engaging story, and enough fictionalized lore to choke a monkey, I'll be happy.

One or two things must be in place for me to even consider playing this MMO. The most important is that it function well as a single-player game. It may also have to be playable in first person. If it offers a first-person perspective and levitation, then I will have some hope that its influences are the right ones.

Facts?

You made assumptions about the players who don't exist yet, about the pay-to-play system which hasn't been implemented and about the potential for in-game payments for items, etc. which also hasn't been announced.

None of those are facts.

Read my other posts bro. Those weren't facts, those were what I took from other MMO's and compared to ESO.. Thanks though.

I did read all your posts. All I see are baseless assumptions. If you'd like to point out where I've been blind, feel free to list all your facts and laugh at my obvious lack of reading comprehension.

Have you ever played another MMO? Like Guild Wars or WoW. If you have, you would understand what I'm talking about

I've played a variety of MMOs, and I've noticed that the playerbase of WoW, for example, differs significantly from the playerbase of LotRO.

But thank you for at least starting to realize that what you classify as "facts" are, in fact, assumptions that you're making about a playerbase before the game has even entered the testing phase.

I never claimed that this game will be some epic dreamworld. You seem to be assuming that since I am telling people to try and take a step back, that I am on the other side of the fence. This is not true. I am on the fence. I do not know whether I will enjoy the game or not, or if it will be a success. All that matter is I do not become some "hater" or "really devoted fan", and I give the game time to develop and get more information. I am not deluded. I just think its silly to claim greatness or fail within the first few days after the first two screenshots are posted. The game isn't going anywhere and I imagine you are not either, so I would recommend relaxing until more information comes out.