Health and Exercise

Post » Sat May 19, 2012 1:55 am

Thanks, will look into that.

A few tips and a starting schedule would be fantastic to be honest. I'm a complete blank canvas really in terms of training with weights, never done it before. I did used to play alot of football (soccer) and I've always been more of a cardio guy.

Not sure if you need anymore info from me to make sure I don't kill myself while training? I'm a big guy anyway but I'm a little over my optimum weight at the minute, really want to get on top of it and sort it out though.

In fact that's a lie, I've bench pressed before at school but I always felt it more in my arms than in my actual chest. The strength in my arms always failed me before I got anywhere near feeling any kind of 'burn' in my chest.

Hmm, so I'm at a dilemma here for your schedule. You say you're overweight, but you want to get bigger. Meaning, you don't want to go for a cutting phase? That's perfectly fine, as you do that whenever, (or even not do it at all, if you like).

I'll assume yes, and we'll go straight to bulking. It's basically the same workouts, but the diet is different.

Do 4 days a week.

Day 1: Chest, biceps, abs.
Day 2: Rest.
Day 3: Back, triceps.
Day 4: Shoulders, traps.
Day 5: Legs abs.
Day 6 & 7: Rest.

Stick to 3 sets for starters, and stay at around 10 reps to begin with, and after a week or two, bring it down to 8 reps max. Meaning increase the weight so that 8 reps is the maximum you can do. Rest a minute or two between exercises. Don't forget to stretch after the workout, and do a 5 minute or so warm up before the work out. If you're unsure of an exercise, remember, form over weight. Get good form, and only then should you increase weight.

(During a cutting phase, only do planks for abs, and cardio otherwise.)

If you want, I could help with particular exercises as well.

As for the chest problem, a lot of beginners face this. It's to do with form. It's hard for me to demonstrate what you should do in words, but I'm sure watching a couple videos on proper benching form should do the trick. Basically, what people do is lift from too high along the plain of their body. I doubt you get what I mean from that sentence, so I'll give you an example...

Right where you're sitting, put your arms up as if you're about to bench press. Now, see where your thumbs are placed on that imaginary dumbell? It should be in line with your nipbles. Or perhaps even lower. Most people lift from too high which works the arms more than chest. Also, when you're at the peak of the press, hold it there for about a second, and squeeze.

A way you can actually feel this difference is... press both your hands against each other in front of your neck. Push real hard. Now put them in front of your stomach. Now push just as hard. You should be able to feel the flex in your chest.

Edit: I see I forgot to talk about bulking diet. :P Anyway, you basically want lean mass here so...

Lots of lentils, egg whites, fish, and things of the like. No need to avoid carbs when not cutting, but definitely have brown bread, brown rice and oats instead of white bread, white rice and typical cereals.
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Post » Sat May 19, 2012 1:36 am

i can't seem to loose weight.
I tried cutting my food intake and cutting out soda. three meals a day and under 1,800 calories. I eat more healthy (more fiber/fruits and a mulit-vit) and less/no junk food and candy.
I tried walking/hiking.

Nothing seems to be really working for me, my job requires little to no physical activity, that's not helping matters. I am getting older (26) and got married. Now I weight more than I ever have.

My wife and I are going to get a pair of bikes and see if that's something we can use to help loose some weight.

I used to work out (strength) and still have a set of fairly large/strong arms but would like to have less belly fat and a more defined chest.
I am not looking for a flat 6-pack but more of the "strong man" ( http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3011/2643303832_4a82ab8d68.jpg ) look.

I have the body shape/size for it, just loosing the fat is my hardest part. I was at one time (high school) curling near my body weight 4-6 times (I was at 155 at that time) and doing 100 set-ups easily with a added 30Lbs weight on my chest.

I am at 178 now, and would love to drop back down to 155-ish. I have been considering some sort of weight loss supplement to help me.

Any ideas?
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Post » Fri May 18, 2012 9:56 pm

Hmm, so I'm at a dilemma here for your schedule. You say you're overweight, but you want to get bigger. Meaning, you don't want to go for a cutting phase? That's perfectly fine, as you do that whenever, (or even not do it at all, if you like).

Let me try to clarify on this.

I want to replace the fat I have with muscle. Currently I'm definitely overweight but it doesn't really show on a day to day basis. So while I want to lose weight (With Cardio/Diet) I want to replace the fat with some muscle.

Also, muscle burns more calories (or whatever) than fat, so adding muscle will help with the loss as well.
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Post » Sat May 19, 2012 8:08 am

i can't seem to loose weight.
I tried cutting my food intake and cutting out soda. three meals a day and under 1,800 calories. I eat more healthy (more fiber/fruits and a mulit-vit) and less/no junk food and candy.
I tried walking/hiking.

Nothing seems to be really working for me, my job requires little to no physical activity, that's not helping matters. I am getting older (26) and got married. Now I weight more than I ever have.

My wife and I are going to get a pair of bikes and see if that's something we can use to help loose some weight.

I used to work out (strength) and still have a set of fairly large/strong arms but would like to have less belly fat and a more defined chest.
I am not looking for a flat 6-pack but more of the "strong man" ( http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3011/2643303832_4a82ab8d68.jpg ) look.

I have the body shape/size for it, just loosing the fat is my hardest part. I was at one time (high school) curling near my body weight 4-6 times (I was at 155 at that time) and doing 100 set-ups easily with a added 30Lbs weight on my chest.

I am at 178 now, and would love to drop back down to 155-ish. I have been considering some sort of weight loss supplement to help me.

Any ideas?

Eat even less, exercise even more. Use http://www.bmi-calculator.net/bmr-calculator/ to find your basal metabolic rate - the number of calories you burn just by living, add the calories your burning through exercises (you can google rough estimates), and eat less than that. A pound of actual fat (as in, lipids) contains ~ 4,000 calories, but to lose a pound of "fat" (which includes a lot of other stuff that gets lost as you lose fat), you need only accrue a calorie deficit in the high three thousands. Results on any safe diet are going to be slow (MAX maybe two pounds a week), and can be covered up week to week by seemingly random factors like how much water you're retaining.

Also, obviously, if you want the strong man look, you're going to need to pick up the weight training again. Hiking probably won't be enough.
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Post » Sat May 19, 2012 7:38 am

Well, let me see:

I am 18 years old and the last three and a half year I have worked out fairly regulary at a local gym. I have gained roughly 20-25 kilograms, but I can still use some of my old clothes if I wish. I still try to work out regulary.

In addition to that I do some basic exorcises before I go to bed, which usually include push-ups, sit-ups and pull-ups.

I am fairly muscled, though I do have some "isolation" on my body.
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Post » Sat May 19, 2012 4:24 am

Eat even less, exercise even more. Use http://www.bmi-calculator.net/bmr-calculator/ to find your basal metabolic rate - the number of calories you burn just by living, add the calories your burning through exercises (you can google rough estimates), and eat less than that. A pound of actual fat (as in, lipids) contains ~ 4,000 calories, but to lose a pound of "fat" (which includes a lot of other stuff that gets lost as you lose fat), you need only accrue a calorie deficit in the high three thousands. Results on any safe diet are going to be slow (MAX maybe two pounds a week), and can be covered up week to week by seemingly random factors like how much water you're retaining.

Also, obviously, if you want the strong man look, you're going to need to pick up the weight training again. Hiking probably won't be enough.

It said 1849.04, so I need to eat less than that plus what ever exercise I do in a day. Along with what foods I should avoid I am guessing that if I stick around 1,200 calories I can start loosing without any exercise that day and if I do exercise I can eat a bit more (but not much).
I would rather loose first and then pick up the weight lifting later because right now I have no weights to work with.
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Post » Sat May 19, 2012 3:54 am

Exorcism expert here, I... Oh, you meant exercise. :P

I need to lose weight. I'm planning on working out as soon as the fall semester begins, as the university I'm going to this fall has an AMAZING gym/aquatics center.
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Post » Sat May 19, 2012 4:56 am

Tausig2
Hope you recover soon, glad to hear you don't let it keep you down!

BOSStealthAgent
Thanks for editing your post to contribute. I bet that win in 4th grade motivated him for today!! You can take credit for his efforts. LOL

revolutionfilms
Looks like a good routine, to me! I love working out with dumb-bells so I don't have to worry about getting a spotter.

Holy Assassin
A HUGE thank you to all the particpation and contributions you've made in the topic!! Excellent info, and top notch posts!! Thanks for the tips, too.

SheridanR
Just goes to show that exercise really is poor man's plastic sugerory. I don't care how you get active, I'm just really glad to see you doing it!! Well done, sir.

tgl1992
Every little bit helps! Take the stairs when you can, walk the dog, and don't forget to stand up! Espacially if you spend more than an hour sitting.

MinotaurWarrior
Again, I don't feel that one must adhere to a reuglar routine (but that would be ideal) as long as you're moving and doing you will add years to your life and quality of life.

TESFanner
*Slides a bullet into the chamber*
*Pulls the hammer back*
*aims*
PICK ONE.

Papafern
It might be asthma or alergies ... My wife was down to 75% of her lung capasity before we started working out. After just a few months of regulary going to the gym and getting varied cardio/hypertrophy/hypertension workouts, she's back to 100%

Shadow Stealer
If the zombie apocalypse is not a reson to start working out, I don't know what is.
Rule #7 (I think... it's been a while since I've seen Zombieland) CARDIO.

BoonProtR3
Awesome!! Keep at it!!

sneakers
You know... they do have dumb bells at the gym, too. Just sayin.

TESFanner(again)
I dunno if I agree with you, there. I say if he's moving, he's doing something good. Could he be doing more? Sure. But we all could.

rumblyguts
W00T - W00T! Nicely done!! You're another example of how even small decision to imporve the quality of your life can have HUGE results!!

titan357
When it comes to losing weight, it's all about calories in vs calories out. A good fat buring, sweat inducing run (after all sweat is fat crying) is the best ticket. I'd say to get about 30-45 minutes of intense cardio every day, and you'll see results.

MorrowindFan
Don't wait! How long have you been in that chiar? One hour? Twenty minutes? Sand up and go for a walk right now!!
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Post » Fri May 18, 2012 11:47 pm

tgl1992
Every little bit helps! Take the stairs when you can, walk the dog, and don't forget to stand up! Espacially if you spend more than an hour sitting.

Of course! I actually would only be on at varied times but it has gotten so sunny here finally that I go in my backyard and bask in the sun! But I do play with my dogs out there as well, it is just a chore to find the tennis balls first :teehee:
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Post » Sat May 19, 2012 5:37 am

I'm skinny but dangerously unfit. Just as well because I would only run in the case of zombie apocalypse, for 200 meters, then collapse out of breath feeling sick for the next few hours! I can't stand the feeling of persperation so unless my doctor told me my head would explode if I did not work out then I don't see myself getting fit any time soon.
Heh, sounds like me three months ago. Now I can actually appreciate running! :D
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Post » Sat May 19, 2012 3:47 am

Let me try to clarify on this.

I want to replace the fat I have with muscle. Currently I'm definitely overweight but it doesn't really show on a day to day basis. So while I want to lose weight (With Cardio/Diet) I want to replace the fat with some muscle.

Also, muscle burns more calories (or whatever) than fat, so adding muscle will help with the loss as well.

Yes, that's correct. Simply having muscle burns calories. So, that schedule should pretty much do the trick, hopefully. For additional fat loss you could throw in a day of cardio, or replace ab exercises with cardio altogether.

i can't seem to loose weight.
I tried cutting my food intake and cutting out soda. three meals a day and under 1,800 calories. I eat more healthy (more fiber/fruits and a mulit-vit) and less/no junk food and candy.
I tried walking/hiking.

Nothing seems to be really working for me, my job requires little to no physical activity, that's not helping matters. I am getting older (26) and got married. Now I weight more than I ever have.

My wife and I are going to get a pair of bikes and see if that's something we can use to help loose some weight.

I used to work out (strength) and still have a set of fairly large/strong arms but would like to have less belly fat and a more defined chest.
I am not looking for a flat 6-pack but more of the "strong man" ( http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3011/2643303832_4a82ab8d68.jpg ) look.

I have the body shape/size for it, just loosing the fat is my hardest part. I was at one time (high school) curling near my body weight 4-6 times (I was at 155 at that time) and doing 100 set-ups easily with a added 30Lbs weight on my chest.

I am at 178 now, and would love to drop back down to 155-ish. I have been considering some sort of weight loss supplement to help me.

Any ideas?

It seems you're only doing LISS. Go for some HIIT. Don't go for those weight loss supplements. Only supplements that I believe are worth taking are either whey or casein protein. Even pre-workout sups are something of a waste, IMO. Same effect could be achieved virtually for free.
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Post » Sat May 19, 2012 8:04 am

Heh, sounds like me three months ago. Now I can actually appreciate running! :biggrin:

I remember a time where I could actually run...

:tongue:
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Post » Fri May 18, 2012 11:49 pm

thought title said health and exorince :tongue:

I'll jog a couple of times through the week, not much, just a mile and a half or so.

I'm skinny. :tongue: Every now and then a doctor will tell me I should try to gain some weight, but I can't. :(
I do not own a car, or even have a drivers license. I ride my bike everywhere, or I walk. I am not a fan of walking though with 1 leg 3cm shorter than the other. My balance is better on my 2 bike wheels than my own 2 legs. Seriously. (I can brake stand while waiting for a light. It's good mental stimulation to, rather than just standing there.)

I try to eat better now that I am older, and sober. This has had some pretty dramatic results alone. I used to live eating mostly boxed and/or canned foods from the age of 16-34. If it took longer than 10 minutes to make, I wouldn't bother. (Lots of fast food to.)

I changed my desk from http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/jasonsteele/Comp%20related/IMG_0546.jpg to http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/jasonsteele/Comp%20related/IMG_0560.jpg and actually really prefer it now that I am used to it. The first several days, my legs hurt like crazy after several ours of gaming the first day I made the switch. Now it feels odd to sit at my friends PC. I did it because I was getting these painful pulses in my right leg (right at my crotch) after sitting for even short periods of time. It was kinda concerning really.
Still on the bike, that is very good exercise and my doctor has recommended it many times. I don't do it as the back roads are too bumpy to ride on and the highway is too dangerous. I should think about taking biking up again though.

As for the standing desk, that would kill me. Standing in one place makes my back scream in pain. And as for those painful pulses....it is very concerning. Get that checked out buddy.
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I can't say I do much exercise except running up and down the stairs multiple times a day and chopping a bit of wood in winter and shoveling a bit of snow. In summer I garden and do yard work but as for a good cardio workout I just don't go there anymore because I have mitral regurg and thus I can't. I used to love to hike and ski but they stopped my skiing about 8 or 9 years ago and my hike has turned into a pleasurable stroll. I do do try to walk more briskly on my return trip when strolling but not always as there is much to stop and see along the way.

My weight has been a battle since I got older and less active. I've recently again sworn off store bought sweets of any kind and if I want sweets badly I must make them or go without. I'm on a water kick at the moment which helps lower my coffee consumption and that is a good thing. I'm down to one pot a day instead of two. Yes I love my coffee. I'm seriously thinking about giving up bread and using tortillas for making roll ups instead of sandwiches.

I am pretty healthy considering my back condition and my heart condition though. I'm not obese but a bit overweight and I usually drop that each summer. I need to take yoga back up. It's so rewarding in so many ways. Helps with pain and body toning and conditioning and puts me in a wonderful mood. I guess today is a good day to start.
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Post » Fri May 18, 2012 9:59 pm



TESFanner(again)
I dunno if I agree with you, there. I say if he's moving, he's doing something good. Could he be doing more? Sure. But we all could.


There comes a point where working out a muscle will only aid in building endurance, when it comes to repetitions. If I do 30 dumbbell curls in one set on each arm, my arms will not grow. Lactic acid will build up, I'll be able to withstand more reps with time, but my arms will not grow bigger.

As for one exercise, leg press and squatting I guess!
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Post » Sat May 19, 2012 2:49 am

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I still do coffee but I have been finding myself drinking water more when I am on my computer during the day. Lately though, I have been finding myself not eating as much. Not sure if it is maturity or what, but I know it is not something serious. For breakfast I just have a bowl of cereal or over easy eggs, for lunch I just grab a sandwich and dinner I just feed myself whatever or eat whatever my mom or sister makes. I guess I can say my wallet loves me now, too :laugh:
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Post » Sat May 19, 2012 4:05 am

MorrowindFan
Don't wait! How long have you been in that chiar? One hour? Twenty minutes? Sand up and go for a walk right now!!

I'm working tonight and only got like four hours of sleep, so that's not happening right now. :P

I need working out to be a social experience, otherwise I don't have the motivation to exercise.
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Post » Fri May 18, 2012 11:11 pm

I need working out to be a social experience, otherwise I don't have the motivation to exercise.

I am kind of the same way, talking to someone when walking takes my mind off the fact that I am working out.
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Post » Sat May 19, 2012 7:14 am

I'm planning on becoming a Robert Baratheon when I'm older.

The only hiccup being I don't have enough money to eat, drink and [censored] that much.

I'm not too unhealthy. Though I have been on some weight in these last 9 months. I'll get back into exercise when I'm not doing exams and when I'm not drunk.
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There comes a point where working out a muscle will only aid in building endurance, when it comes to repetitions. If I do 30 dumbbell curls in one set on each arm, my arms will not grow. Lactic acid will build up, I'll be able to withstand more reps with time, but my arms will not grow bigger.

As for one exercise, leg press and squatting I guess!

Yes, you're completely right. But when you said "He's not going to get any benefit" it makes me think that's just as well doing nothing at all. Which is NOT true, at all. As long as he's doing SOMETHING, that's better than not doing anything at all - is my point. But I kind of doubt you're disputing that :biggrin:

High Five on squats!! I love them so much. I'll take my finger off the trigger now.

MorrowindFan, tgl1992 I'm very much the same way. That's why I pay a guy to help motivate me. I think personal trainers should be something everyone has, like a dentist or doctor.
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Post » Sat May 19, 2012 12:58 am

MorrowindFan, tgl1992 I'm very much the same way. That's why I pay a guy to help motivate me. I think personal trainers should be something everyone has, like a dentist or doctor.

I agree with the fact that motivation is necessary, but not that you HAVE to have a personal trainer on your payroll. I think the best kind of motivation is having a bunch of friends that work out too and maybe even work out in the same gym as you.

A personal trainer has a wide array of benefits, yes, but it's a steep price to pay just for motivation.
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Post » Sat May 19, 2012 2:02 am

You certainly don't need a personal trainer. Some people may need one, sure, but it's far from a must.

The best kind of motivation is one you create yourself. I've been working out for 2 years and I push myself everyday. It's a part of my life really, I can't go a week without working out.

I've just come back from a brutal leg workout in fact. God I love leg days!
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Post » Sat May 19, 2012 3:40 am

I've just come back from a brutal leg workout in fact. God I love leg days!

I know that feel. Today was leg day for me as well. :P
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Post » Sat May 19, 2012 5:46 am

I know that feel. Today was leg day for me as well. :tongue:

Yes and I want to see your progress pictures! :P This needs a 'http://i.imgur.com/OTq4U.jpg' tag.
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Post » Sat May 19, 2012 12:42 am


Yes and I want to see your progress pictures! :tongue: This needs a 'http://i.imgur.com/OTq4U.jpg' tag.

I edited them into a post a while ago. Didn't catch it?
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Post » Sat May 19, 2012 10:46 am

Ah, I saw them now. Great job man! I remember when you posted a before/after pic in clothes in the picture thread some few months ago. Keep at it, you're doing real good! :)
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