How does TESO fit into the Elder Scrolls timeline?

Post » Mon May 14, 2012 5:03 pm

2nd Era, this is way after the events of Red Mountain.

The most likely time period IMO is this:

http://www.imperial-library.info/content/second-era

This fits perfectly for about 1000 years before and during a time when such alliances would be possible. Its after the Akaviri Emperor has been assassinated. Though it says the Empire has dissolved, more likely they will retcon/explain it as having lost control of Tamriel and put in the struggling state described in the magazine.
Yes I see that now. I was fooled by article which said that Nerevar is fighting against Dagoth Ur at the Red Mountain during the MMO. Depending on the lore that happened before the MMO takes it's place but if the article is right then the MMO breaks the Lore by moving the timeline of the battle.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 6:30 pm

Yes I see that now. I was fooled by article which said that Nerevar is fighting against Dagoth Ur at the Red Mountain during the MMO. Depending on the lore that happened before the MMO takes it's place but if the article is right then the MMO breaks the Lore by moving the timeline of the battle.

You misread the article, it never says those events take place during the game. It opens by talking about the Nerevarine's fierce battle against Dagoth Ur in Morrowind, as in talking about TES 3, and the it goes on to talk about the other games as well. It's not talking about Nerevar at all or even TESO at that point.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 7:22 am

Nerevarine is the Reincarnation, Nerevar is the original, that part is talking about TES Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim, its saying all of this happened before the games.

How ever upon closer reading, now I'm confused

mmk what Chimer said
But that doesn't fit on either, Nerevarine was in Morrowind 3E427. The whole timeline in TES:O seems to be twisted.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 10:42 am

But that doesn't fit on either, Nerevarine was in Morrowind 3E427. The whole timeline in TES:O seems to be twisted.

They aren't talking about TES:Online at all, they were talking about the other games. If you are still confused... just trust me on this one. I promise you, its ok. :)
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 4:58 pm

They aren't talking about TES:Online at all, they were talking about the other games. If you are still confused... just trust me on this one. I promise you, its ok. :smile:
I posted that one before I saw your post about my misreading the article. My apologies I misread the article and became mad because of I thought they weren't caring about the lore at all. Anyway there are still many doubts I have about the TES:O. One is about the alliances, I haven't found anything about them in the lore except the Aldmeri Dominion. History and existence about the two other alliances is totally unknown for me.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 9:12 am

I posted that one before I saw your post about my misreading the article. My apologies I misread the article and became mad because of I thought they weren't caring about the lore at all. Anyway there are still many doubts I have about the TES:O. One is about the alliances, I haven't found anything about them in the lore except the Aldmeri Dominion. History and existence about the two other alliances is totally unknown for me.

Well, expect some additions and retcons to the lore. All the games have done it, and for any TES MMO to work they'll need to do quite a few.

Personally, I try as much as possible to NOT let my inner nerd rage quite so much. Its just not worth it, if you cling to everything you'll just be disappointed. Its much better to simply view this from the possibilities of what can be good about it than what can be terrible. After all, the consequences are minimal if this game fails, we still have Bethesda making single-player RPGs, and someone could very well pick up the idea of a TES MMO in the future.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 7:57 pm

Well the thing is I like a lot of idea about multiplayer TES (LAN based a few player game would be better but this is ok). Anyway there are ways to do it well and ways to do it bad. I'm expecting nothing less than Oblivion was. I'm trying to find out how well the lore is made (no big things broken I hope) and then I just hope the feel of gameplay, control and combat and dungeon clearing to be at least equal to Oblivion maybe something between the quality of Oblivion and Skyrim.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 12:15 pm

Hey-o.

I'm not sure how much retconning actually needs to be done. The period of time between the Akaviri Potentate and the rise of Tiber Septim is called the Interregnum, and appears to be regarded as sort of a Dark Ages.

And I do not have permission to post links. But the UESP has a nice Timeline for anyone to look at, and a brief description of the Interregnum.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 11:11 am

I fear they are going to completely do a timey wimey wibbly wobbly in this game. Anything convinient will be bent to their will.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 4:55 pm

Indeed, there is even mentioned a period of civil war during the 2nd Era that seems ripe for what we know about the game.


2E 431
Civil wars and insurrection dissolve the Tamrielic Empire.
Otherwise that timing could be possible but one of the alliances in the game is Aldmeri Dominion which was formed 2E 830.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 10:00 am

Otherwise that timing could be possible but one of the alliances in the game is Aldmeri Dominion which was formed 2E 830.

That we know of.
The Dominion seems to be a recurring theme in Altmer history, they really dont like that their former glory has been diminished.

Maybe, and Im speculating here, the MMO Dominion is sort of like a false start of it.
Its quite possible that they will lose the civil war that is the MMO storyline and wont get a chance to reboot the Dominion until 2E830.

After all, whoever gets the ruby throne in the MMO doesnt really matter.
We know that around the 2E800's they are replaced by Cuhlecain who comes before Tiber.
So whatever happens in the MMO, some unknown event will ensure that none of the factions will ultimately be able to hold the ruby throne.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 2:17 pm

It is official, TESO has screwed up everything including the Lore.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 5:41 am

That we know of.
The Dominion seems to be a recurring theme in Altmer history, they really dont like that their former glory has been dimished.

Maybe, and Im speculating here, the MMO Dominion is sort of like a false start of it.
Its quite possible that they will lose the civil wat that is the MMO storyline and wont get a chance to reboot the Dominion until 2E830.

After all, whoever gets the ruby throne in the MMO doesnt really matter.
We know that around the 2E800's they are replaced by Cuhlecain who comes before Tiber.
So whatever happens in the MMO, some unknown event will ensure that none of the factions will ultimately be able to hold the ruby throne.
Well this timing makes me to believe the game to take its place actually somewhere between 2E 854 (Cuhlecain was assasinated) and 2E 896 (Tiber Septim conquers Tamriel).
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 11:30 am

Well this timing makes me to believe the game to take its place actually somewhere between 2E 854 (Cuhlecain was assasinated) and 2E 896 (Tiber Septim conquers Tamriel).

The storyline makes me think that it is before that, deep in the interregnum before there was an emperor.
This is because I read in the article on the MMO that the plotline involves Mannimarco promising the Cyrodiil their old glory back, while meanwhile being secretly in cahoots with Molag Bal.
I think that this would make the most sense in this period as one could argue that under Cuhlecain the Imperials were already on the rise again.

However, we just dont know so you may be correct.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 8:49 pm

It is said to be based 1000 years before Skyrim, which according to http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:History and assuming that I counted correctly, would be around the middle of the Second Era. That is before any other Elder Scrolls game as far as I am aware. I am just wondering how different the world is going to be, and how does this Molag Bal thing fit in? I hadn't heard of that before, is it a new thing or was that part of the lore already?
The way I've counted it falls right after the end of the Second Empire with the assasination of Savirien-Chorak, right at the beginning of the Interregnum and probably before Morrowind was invaded by Akaviri forces. Little is known about this early period, as the continent is obviously in political chaos at the time. It is not outlandish to think that a lot of ambitious opportunists jumped to the rare chance to take up the empty throne of the fallen Empire, resulting in a chaotic power struggle where noone ruled for more than a few weeks. The resulting warfare would ultimately plunge Cyrodiil into a dark age, little of which would be remembered after a few centuries. One could use that to explain why Molag Bal's role is absent in the lore therafter.
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Interregnum
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 6:57 pm

The way I've counted it falls right after the end of the Second Empire with the assasination of Savirien-Chorak, right at the beginning of the Interregnum and probably before Morrowind was invaded by Akaviri forces. Little is known about this early period, as the continent is obviously in political chaos at the time. It is not outlandish to think that a lot of ambitious opportunists jumped to the rare chance to take up the empty throne of the fallen Empire, resulting in a chaotic power struggle where noone ruled for more than a few weeks. The resulting warfare would ultimately plunge Cyrodiil into a dark age, little of which would be remembered after a few centuries. One could use that to explain why Molag Bal's role is absent in the lore therafter.
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Interregnum
Your explanation sounds good, but still the late of the Interregnum sounds more likely for me. That's only because they have confirmed Aldmeri Dominion to be one of the alliances. As we know that forces the game to happen after the year 2E 830.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 7:01 pm

Your explanation sounds good, but still the late of the Interregnum sounds more likely for me. That's only because they have confirmed Aldmeri Dominion to be one of the alliances. As we know that forces the game to happen after the year 2E 830.

We only known the date of the founding of the Dominion becuase of the pocket guide to the empire........ which is notoriously wrong becuase it is all Impeiral propoganda.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 6:31 am

We only known the date of the founding of the Dominion becuase of the pocket guide to the empire........ which is notoriously wrong becuase it is all Impeiral propoganda.

Also note that the Dominion pops up again in the fourth era, it seems to be a recurring theme in Altmer politics.
Possibly this Dominion should be seen as Dominion zero, one that failed but got another chance around the 2E800's.
And then again during the 4E200's..
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 6:09 pm

Also note that the Dominion pops up again in the fourth era, it seems to be a recurring theme in Altmer politics.
Possibly this Dominion should be seen as Dominion zero, one that failed but got another chance around the 2E800's.
And then again during the 4E200's..
Could be.

But I find it more likely they just changed the date back awhile becuase its so trivial, many people dont know it, and the pocket guides have been established time and time again to be almost all lies even where the lies make no sense.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 8:23 am

Could be.

But I find it more likely they just changed the date back awhile becuase its so trivial, many people dont know it, and the pocket guides have been established time and time again to be almost all lies even where the lies make no sense.

Well yeah, and also because it is the only source for the founding of the first Dominion.
Its not a huge retcon to say the Dominion found its roots in the interregnum and came to full blossom around the time of Cuhlecain.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 12:25 pm

I have the feeling Bethesda is just going to dragon-break 99% of the game out of existance somehow.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 9:57 am

I have the feeling Bethesda is just going to dragon-break 99% of the game out of existance somehow.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 12:10 pm

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Actually I did mean to say Bethesda.

They are the ones who controll the lore and who would get to decide if the grame gets dragon-brekaed out of existance in future games.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 6:40 pm

Actually I did mean to say Bethesda.

They are the ones who controll the lore and who would get to decide if the grame gets dragon-brekaed out of existance in future games.
According to all we know, they kept tabs on ZMO to make sure they don't have to.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 1:35 pm

According to all we know, they kept tabs on ZMO to make sure they don't have to.

they keep tabs to mak sure they do any super major lore violations but Bethesda could, in the future, decide to write out the entire game if they think of something cooler to put in that time-span.
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