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Traditional Elves are a Tall species. Even wood elves......according to high fantasy.

Dunmer and Bosmer are too tall in this game. Especially Bosmer.

High fantasy? How about Elder Scrolls lore? Read some.

LOL same here, I think the Bosmer are even taller then me( 5'4) in Skyrim, which is why in Morrowind and Oblivion I always play a Bosmer I was able to relate to being the little guy.

Yay! So much bosmer love. <3


Couldn't agree more! I always felt they deserved better and something more in line with the lore.


Awesome! You can really see the changes in height they've made to them.


I've often wondered that. In fact, I've often wondered what the reasoning was behind the height switch in the first place, but I haven't been able to find anything online other than a post by someone that claims to be responsible for the decision saying that she or he did it as a commentary on gender. What commentary, they didn't say. =P

Their ruler supposedly takes on the form of whatever type of person is most predominant in society at the moment, which could suggest a more egalitarian society. One of the reasons I love them is that there is still much that's not known about them, so it's easy to RP whatever I want. Pesonally, I like roleplaying that my character comes from a small nomadic tribe in the wilder reaches of Valenwood, where tribal leadership is clan-based and gender neutral, six is shameless and not tied to the marriage contract, childcare is communal and family based rather than tied to patriarchal property ownership, and life is brutal, war frequent, but everyone has a responsibility to the people they've killed in battle by eating their dead and adopting orphans they've created. (The idea being that if you have to be responsible for consuming all of the dead you've created, you won't be too greedy or prideful in battle.) ..All of this which makes her viewed as an immoral savage outside of her corner of the world.

I know all about Elder Scrolls lore. Don't teach me to svck eggs it's massively obnoxious and condescending.

In the past games, it was significantly easier to figure out what race an NPC was just by looking at them (as it should be!). I have to admit, in Skyrim, I have to stop and stare at someone to figure out some of them. From a distance, I should be able to go, "Hey. That guy's short. Must be a Bosmer!" or, even, "Hey, that woman is really tall. Must be an Altmer!" but I can't. I dare to say the Breton feel shorter than the Bosmer sometimes.


Edit: About the 'high fantasy' comments -- Uherm. Nirn != Middle Earth.

I like that male Bosmer is short.

I can't say it bothers me because I'm not playing one. They're adding comic value, although they're not so sissy as they used to be.

I felt it was hard to take them seriously in the past two games, which was partially due to the height, but in Skyrim it is less notable and it fits.

I'm hoping Beth won't deviate too much from their own lore anymore. As many others here, I have a lot of trouble to discern bosmer from bretons or even altmer now that there's almost no difference in height. Isn't that why multiple races exist after all, to bring variation? Well, I'm glad they didn't add comic relief bosmer like in Morrowind and Oblivion (i.e. the meddlesome guy in Seyda Neen and your biggest Arena fan in the Imperial City). They became annoying very fast. It wouldn't be bad to see a short badass guy for once, that break from the clichéd cool big guy should be nice to see.

I think it'd be interesting if they added (or if necessary, rather replaced the old ones with) something like race-specific kill cams. I'd definitely go for male bosmer for a new character then.

Cant say i noticed them being really short. I find that compared to NPC's my character always seems to be shorter then them anyway.