3 Human Races

Post » Tue May 15, 2012 3:48 am

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Negroid, Caucasoid, and Mongoloid...

So shouldn't Blacks be called Negros or Negroin, and Asians be called Mongolian?

I know those who inhabit Mongolia are Mongolian, and that Negro is an outdated term, but science suggests these are indeed correct. Besides, I don't like calling someone black or white or even red or yellow; people are all shades of color.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 8:13 am

Why don't we just call everyone human?
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 6:28 am

people are all shades of color.
I'd like to see some green men.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 4:03 am

Root of the problem: English is a funky language.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 9:14 pm

Why don't we just call everyone human?
I knew someone would say this.
We classify subgroups in ALL species. Humans are no different.
Anyway, Caucasian is a fine term. But Asian and Black/African-American are incorrect, as not all Negroids are African or American (I guess they'd be i.e. African-British) and Black is just a shade, not classification. Asians too are not all typically "Asian looking" (Indians for example), so the class of Mongoloids fits all of those people.
Again, the term Caucasian is fine and dandy, but why is Mongolasian (which it should be called to not confused Mongolians) and Negroin inappropriate?
And Negro was a title of respect 60 years ago. Why has it changed?
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 5:56 am

Root of the problem: English is a funky language.
Amen to that.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 9:58 am

Negroid, Caucasoid, and Mongoloid...

So shouldn't Blacks be called Negros or Negroin, and Asians be called Mongolian?

I know those who inhabit Mongolia are Mongolian, and that Negro is an outdated term, but science suggests these are indeed correct. Besides, I don't like calling someone black or white or even red or yellow; people are all shades of color.

Not if you live in a Spanish speaking country. Basically, the three terms you first listed are useful only in Anthropology and what various races/people are identified as or self-identify as various from country to country and the individual.

Asians too are not all typically "Asian looking" (Indians for example), so the class of Mongoloids fits all of those people.

South Asian/Indians are actually Caucasian.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 10:59 am



Not if you live in a Spanish speaking country. Basically, the three terms you first listed are useful only in Anthropology and what various races/people are identified as or self-identify as various from country to country and the individual.



South Asian/Indians are actually Caucasian.
http://www.indiapenpals.com/images/ip/thumbnails/img177511777723798928890236.jpg

So this man is caucasoid?
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 7:04 am

Haven't you read a science text book newer than when muttonchops were all the rage?

There's no such thing as "mongoloid" or "negroid", there's just one species, Homo sapiens.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 11:27 pm

I knew someone would say this.
We classify subgroups in ALL species. Humans are no different.
Anyway, Caucasian is a fine term. But Asian and Black/African-American are incorrect, as not all Negroids are African or American (I guess they'd be i.e. African-British) and Black is just a shade, not classification. Asians too are not all typically "Asian looking" (Indians for example), so the class of Mongoloids fits all of those people.
Again, the term Caucasian is fine and dandy, but why is Mongolasian (which it should be called to not confused Mongolians) and Negroin inappropriate?
And Negro was a title of respect 60 years ago. Why has it changed?
We classify subgroups in all species mostly for scientific purposes, or in some cases for breeding, etc. In science fields, the terms in question are already widely used. In regular everyday usage, I don't see why we need to use negroid or mongoloid. Any racial term in everyday use is only to provide additional clarification. For that, as long as it's understood any term can be used. So what's the point?

I wasn't aware Mongolasian was inappropriate. Go ahead and call Asians that. Most people won't understand what you mean and thus the whole point is lost, but whatever.

As per your last line, because of the term's evolution into a racial slur in slavery days.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 3:43 am

Haven't you read a science text book newer than when muttonchops were all the rage?

There's no such thing as "mongoloid" or "negroid", there's just one species, Homo sapiens.
...nooooo...

Understandably so, humans like to organize things, including ourselves. We are homo sapien sapiens (yes it's repeated twice), but we are obviously not all the same, although from a standard origin.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 10:06 pm

Any racial term in everyday use is only to provide additional clarification. For that, as long as it's understood any term can be used. So what's the point?
For daily use, any term that makes sense and is respectful will do.
I'm just confused as to why Caucasian is so simple yet the other 2 are so complicated.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 12:10 am

Haven't you read a science text book newer than when muttonchops were all the rage?
Why would anyone ever associate with anything outside the context of muttonchops?

On topic, those terms were created as a way of classifying biological differences between humans, but fell out of use because it became apparent that race was not an accurate way of categorizing those differences. So, we don't use them for the same reason medicine no longer works with humours.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 10:11 pm

For daily use, any term that makes sense and is respectful will do.
I'm just confused as to why Caucasian is so simple yet the other 2 are so complicated.
No one uses caucasian either. Only on state tests and surveys.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 10:00 am

No one uses caucasian either. Only on state tests and surveys.
BUT White directly means Caucasian. Black and Asian for Negroid and Mongoloid, not so much.
Also, why does Caucasian keep its root name but Black and Asian don't?
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 10:55 pm

Haven't you heard? All races and racial sciences were casualties of WW2. For some reason, when the Nazis were defeated we all became the same race.

Oh, and according to my high school Holocaust and intolerance studies class, Jews have never been a race.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 12:09 am

BUT White directly means Caucasian. Black and Asian for Negroid and Mongoloid, not so much.
Also, why does Caucasian keep its root name but Black and Asian don't?
I'm not exactly sure what you mean anymore.

White may always or just about always mean caucasian, but caucasian does not always mean white. Latinos, for example, are caucasian but people don't call them white.

Black doesn't always mean negroid but it usually does. Rarely will someone call an Indian "black". They usually just say Indian, or middle-eastern.

Again, I don't think anyone's going to stop you from using mongoloid or some variation thereof. I could be wrong.

The way I see it these are the common racial distinctions in everyday language:
  • White
  • Latino
  • Black
  • Middle-eastern
  • Asian
That gives even finer distinctions than your three. Are you just complaining about semantics and the evolution of the language, or is there actually some point to using your terms instead?
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 2:16 am


I'm not exactly sure what you mean anymore.

White may always or just about always mean caucasian, but caucasian does not always mean white. Latinos, for example, are caucasian but people don't call them white.

Black doesn't always mean negroid but it usually does. Rarely will someone call an Indian "black". They usually just say Indian, or middle-eastern.

Again, I don't think anyone's going to stop you from using mongoloid or some variation thereof. I could be wrong.

The way I see it these are the common racial distinctions in everyday language:
  • White
  • Latino
  • Black
  • Middle-eastern
  • Asian
That gives even finer distinctions than your three. Are you just complaining about semantics and the evolution of the language, or is there actually some point to using your terms instead?
I am purely complaining about the language usage :D
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 4:33 am

Haven't you heard? All races and racial sciences were casualties of WW2. For some reason, when the Nazis were defeated we all became the same race.

Oh, and according to my high school Holocaust and intolerance studies class, Jews have never been a race.
Of course, but I've come to the realization just recently that when people call my religion and people a race, it's almost true; so many of us have left (died), our gene pool condensed.

Just call me Jewloid :P
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 2:19 am

I'd like to see some green men.

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Couldn't help myself.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 12:16 am

I am purely complaining about the language usage :biggrin:
That's simple. English speakers are historically caucasian. The terms for the other races have evolved into racial slurs, but of course caucasian hasn't.
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That's simple. English speakers are historically caucasian. The terms for the other races have evolved into racial slurs, but of course caucasian hasn't.
I see...
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 7:09 am

BUT White directly means Caucasian.
No it doesn't...
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 6:46 am


No it doesn't...
Okay, do you know of any white people who aren't Caucasian?
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 8:32 am

http://www.indiapenpals.com/images/ip/thumbnails/img177511777723798928890236.jpg

So this man is caucasoid?

Absolutely. Racial classification has nothing to do with color of skin. The people of the Indian Subcontinent are Caucasoid peoples and Hindi is an Indo-European language.
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