Seriously? The game is much smoother on the HDD without a doubt, i have played portions of both as i had a few texture issues and i was troubleshooting the problem, and First The in game is smoother when switching weapons or alot of actions is happening, running from the HDD lags alot less often, Second what he was talking about going into his UI, well its almost instant on the HDD, but off disc i have notice that it takes a sec, and even switching weapons was an issue sometimes, or just going threw your items was laggy with items taking a mintue to load in. Third if you know anything about Hardware you know that running if off the HDD is much faster than a disc drive in all cases

If you are having problems with it installed then try uninstalling it and running from disc.

I used to have lag in Fallout 3 when the game was installed to HDD but uninstalling removed the lag.

Sound logic if only there wasn't a texture streaming bug that occurs while installed.

lol i was trying to remember while i read this thread why i didnt want to install that sounds familliar

I long for the day a single save matches the size of the gamedata and surpasses 4GB large.

er dont know how to get rid of this double comment i did by accident so um yh.

This happened to me too, the moment I killed a huge spider, I had my first bout of lag in 50+ hours of play, lasted 10 seconds (longest 10 seconds of my life, thought my Xbox had become a PS3) then it stopped and all was right in the world.

16,385 keys! Holy sh it!

The best part is that I kept one key just in case, and when I saved and quit for awhile then came back I had 32,706 keys. So this time I completely removed the key.

Me and my dad are playing it and we both have xbox... but his model is the arcade and mine is the pro. He is having nothing but problems with lag. I've haven't notice a thing

To those of you not suffering from lag, don't let yourselves be ignorant of this. My game used to run perfectly, which I considered to be an immense achievement from Bethesda, considering how old the Xbox is and how good the game's graphics really are. But my save has climbed to 5mb and I am already seeing stuttering and pauses, even in tiny places like Riverwood, which was never evident before. There is definitely a developing problem that exists for both PS3 and 360 owners, so I sincerely hope Bethesda address the issue with both consoles, because the way it stands right now, I only hear of the PS3 receiving a fix. .

As for people advising others to install the game, this does not change the problem. There is also a texture streaming problem existing when installing he game, so I would recommend players don't do this until that is resolved, and even then, installing 360 games seems to always cause texture issues in certain games. I have seen increased texture pop-up, blurry textures that fail to load properly in many games when installed, yet Microsoft did not acknowledge this when I contacted them when the feature was first implemented.

Glad you were able to get it fixed!

There's just something so exhilarating about solving problems as a united forum!

im about 35 hours in i have xbox elite and my save game is 7mb and i have NOT ONCE seen or experienced any lag anywhere, maybe i am lucky.

yeah i got it the day it came out and immediately experienced prolonged waiting periods to tinker w/the menus and the loading takes forever and to make matters worse often times my game freezes when i go thru doors and i have to restart my system and i called gamestop and the guy said he's experiencing the same problem so its not my disc just the game but hopefully this patch will fix this prob too not jus the hardware issues of installing it to your harddrive