This is incredibly worrying. I hadn't really been noticing any glitching but yesterday when I was playing there was some lag. I didn't really think much of it. I've been playing for 30hrs, I don't know how big my file size is but I will be incredibly sad if it gets to a point where it is no longer playable due to too much lag. Sad times. I do have a ton of miscellaneous quests to get through though, maybe clearing those will help?

Mark, I appreciate your efforts as well. Thanks for taking the time to post these articles in here and let us know that the press is on this finally. As for you d bags that like to complain about someone doing work for you, get F***ed. If you want to know where the article came from copy the text and paste it in Google, oh my it's magic! If you don't like how someone is helping you on their own time then ignore them and do the work yourselves.

Once they even had the audacity of saying that they leave some bugs on purpose because deemed "funny", or something like that...yes you read it right...

I appreciate the accumulation of these articles Mark, and so do the people asking for sources. They aren't trolls. I want to see link sources because this issue is worrying a lot of people, and it's one thing to have a forum user's opinion, and another to have an official statement by a trustworthy source. The latter of which is more encouraging than the former. All we ask is you put where the article came from so we know whether to put faith in it or not.

dont heed that muppit, keep posting plz

i can see everyone is complaining about the lag on ps3 but thats only beginning.my save game file size is 9.8mb and at this point almost everything is not working.no quest updates,sell/buy in shops not working,all the dialogues with npc are not working properly for example you ask the guard to take you to jail for the crime u did and he just stands there doing nothing,same with bribes or ressisting arrests...no dragon souls coming out of killed dragons,lag is just unbearable.i remember i used to level myself in riften with their guards on me,it used to be 15-30 guards on me and worked fine and when u try same thing with 9.8mb save game....console freezes,the lag is so crazy that only solution is go to main menu and load the game and just avoid fighting with more than 2 enemies...and at this stage constant save and then load game function is not helping.theres no way may save game going to be fixed and im sure that when patch comes out i need to start with new character as with the players slowly reaching 5mb i would recommend you guys just wait for the patch b4 u messed ur save game like i did.46h of gameplay and when i think i need to start all this from beginning,makes me sad.

I feel you. Same issues here. Lag is one thing...but I guess if they keep on going they will see what we have. No amount of rebooting will save you.

Does starting a new game help or does it still have the lag due to a larger file being stored on the PS3?

SOOOOO depressing. Mine only just started the lag, its not that bad at the moment, just jumps a bit sometimes. I'm going to turn off the autosave see if that helps. im about 31hrs in, lvl 16, 6.4mbs

do you think I should just start a new game. I want to keep on playing and I really don't want my character to be messed up beyond help.

I would be very hesitant on making a new game as you could possibly get the Autosave overwrite glitch, where the first autosave of the game seems to save over everything else. This had happened to me on my first character. I decided that I wanted to take a stealthy assassin approach, but would pick up on my Bosmer archer later. Sadly, starting a new character erased my Bosmer.

Also, the problem doesn't seem to be with how many saves you have. The more the game has to load, it begins to get stressed.


For the time being, I'm thinking about running up to Gamestop and picking up Morrowind GOTY for XBox, and whipping the old guy out.

I'm just under 7mb on Skyrim, and the lag is starting to become noticeable. I think I still have a good bit left before it's unplayable, but why play when I know the inevitable is coming?

If you back your old game up on usb does that not stop the autosave glitch from overwriting your game?

Haven't tried to be honest. It's sad that you would have to back up your saves on an external device, but it should work

Starting a new game will delete your old one. You can create tons of save files and it has no ill effect. It is really the size of the file you are using. The more you do/change the more it grows. I wonder at that rate is it possible to get a platinum on a single playthrough. IT is logically looking at the trophies...but is it physically possible since the game seems to reach a point of meltdown when you have done too much.

The only reason I have so far is because after my first 15hrs of skyrim my playstation broke. i had the old 40gb version. so i bought the slim 320gb version and started playing again and have been backing up the game since just in case this playstation should ever die.

you know u can use the "hair dryer" technique on YLOD ps3's to get them to work again temporarily, to get your save files off.

my 40gb phat ylod during the bf3 beta, i done the hair dryer trick for 15 mins and it actually worked. took me 5 mins to get my save files off =]
my old phat is sitting in the corner, and it still turns on, but i know if i tryed to play a game on it, it would only last around 20mins and the disk would get stuck in it,

what is the hair dryer technique? do you have to blow dry your ps3 till it heats up or something?

News — November 18, 2011 9:03 pm

Skyrim console patches in certification.

Posted by Evan (http://www.gmrfm.com/)

Bethesda’s VP of Marketing Pete Hines has just posted the news on his twitter account that a console patch for Skyrim has been submitted for certification. He also stated “pc coming too”. His tweet provides an estimate that the fix will be going live the week after Thanksgiving which means at least another week of waiting for anyone impacted by some of the games more serious issues. The patch will be primarily aimed at fixing the broken textures bug on the 360 and the poor framerate that some PS3 players have been encountering. It will also clean up some of the less serious issues that are a given in a gameworld as big and complex as Skyrim’s.

I’m still unsure if I am suffering from the texture problem on the 360 and am perfectly happy with how the game looks for me anyway. Skyrim has managed to eat a frightening amount of my time since it launched last Friday and am I edging closer and closer to thinking that this game is going to end up being incredibly influential and important when we look back at this era in gaming. Any patch that makes that experience less turbulent for the people experiencing bugs has to be welcomed, even if the wait is a little bit long.

I think we have some hope here folks.....

^^^ great news with the update if it really fixs the lag issue so quickly



i done this for 15 minutes, and let it cool down for afew hours, worked like a charm. if you do it, dont worry too much about the thin strips of plastic starting to warp or melt a little at the back vent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUaCoimoKTk

First Skyrim update expected week of Nov. 28
(http://www.neoseeker.com/) Friday, November 18, 2011 9:04pm

The first patch for Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim is coming probably later than you'd like, but hey, it's coming.

Bethesda's VP of PR and Marketing Pete Hines says console updates have been submitted for certification, with a PC update on the way as well. Estimated time of arrival: the week of November 28.

try keep you posted Dudes.....

SKYRIM: Quick Fix For PS3 Lag Problem

November 18, 2011 9:51 am (http://whatculture.com/)

Regardless of how high the review scores have been for Bethesda’s sprawling fantasy RPG Skyrim, you can’t seem to move at the minute for disgruntled gamers complaining about the game being fundamentally broken. We already know that the developers are currently working on a solution patch, but as Pete Hines – the marketing boss at the company – has been tweeting, these things take time, no matter how eager everyone is for the fix.

One of the most prevalent problems is specifically frustrating PS3 users, who will be finding that progress (and increased save file size) means a consequent drop in game performance. The drop in frame rate and general slow down is explained by the fact that Skyrim doesn’t reload the world as frequently as earlier Elder Scrolls titles did – which seems a fairly simple oversight – meaning the game has to track every single item and activity for longer. That translates as too high RAM use, as the game struggles to remember everything it is being asked to, and slows down as a result.

The problem is not without possible solutions, while we wait for the patch, and the best seems to be a simple matter of regularly saving and reloading. This is admittedly not ideal, since it means frequently stop-starting, and it won’t solve any other problems, but it is a compromise that will facilitate an eased burden for the game, and increased performance for the player.

So rather than racking up continuous hours of exploring, collecting and combat, take a more episodic approach: whenever you come across a natural pause point take advantage by saving, quitting and reloading your game. This will effectively reset all of the game’s duties, and how much data it is being forced to actively manage, and allow it the freedom to concentrate on more fundamental things like performing at the promised standard.

It is frustrating to have to treat a game like some sort of injured elderly relative, considering how far technology has advanced the gaming world, but sacrifices must be made until Bethesda get the patch out.

Skyrim patches for PS3 and Xbox 360 submitted for certification, gamers breathe a sigh of relief

Posted on November 19, 2011 in PC, PS3, Xbox 360 (from http://myona.com/)

One of the most highly anticipated games of the year has seen its fair share of problems.

On the PS3, there are save file and lag issues almost to the point to lead some people to call it broken. While on the Xbox 360, there are texture glitches that makes it look like a downgraded version compared with the PC and PS3 versions.

Vice president of Bethesda, Pete Hines has finally given the Skyrim community a much needed update on the patches for both consoles and the PC.

He tweeted, “PS3 & 360 updates have been submitted for certification. PC coming too.”

“current estimate is they will be live the week after T’giving” he added regarding the release date.



Hopefully these will be the much needed update that will fix the nagging problems that gamers have been enduring since the release of Skyrim.

Skyrim Patch 1.2 Will Improve PS3 Performance
Published On: Sun, Nov 20th, 2011 (http://daily-portal.com/)

On Friday Bethesda’s Pete Hines informed us that the PS3 and Xbox 360 versions of update 1.2 for Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim were “submitted for certification”.

While he did give us a timeframe for the release as “live the week after Thanksgiving”, he didn’t reveal exactly what fixes the update will address. For those outside of America, Thanksgiving falls on November 24th.

Hines specifically stated today he wouldn’t give a list of all the fixes in the upcoming patch until he was “certain they are all in”.

With that being said, he did address one certain issue that has been plaguing PS3 gamers since the launch of Skyrim a little over a week ago.

“On the list for this update is improved performance for long-term play on PS3,” Hines confirmed today via Twitter. Of course, the “performance” he is referring to is the latency/lag framerate issues plaguing current PS3 users who play Skyrim for long periods of time. The widespread problems are expected to be caused by the unusually large save files for Skyrim on the PlayStation 3.

Hines promised that he would “provide a list of fixes once patch has been certed and no other changes will be made.”

Aside from the improved PS3 performance, I expect the upcoming patch to fix the Xbox 360 texture issues many have complained about. As for those playing Skyrim on PC, Hines did say that an update for PC was “coming too”, but didn’t say when.

Opinion: Why PlayStation 3 Will Outsell Xbox 360

It's all about the numbers. (http://uk.ps3.ign.com/)

This month, the PlayStation 3 turns five. Having sold 55.5 million units worldwide since its launch (according to Sony's most recent numbers), the PlayStation 3 isn't living up to the unreal sales numbers of the PlayStation (102 million units sold since 1994) or PlayStation 2 (153 million units sold 2000), but it's holding its own against its closest rival, and, according to the numbers, will eventually outsell Xbox 360.

Xbox 360 launched a year earlier than PlayStation 3. It has sold 57.6 million units worldwide according to Microsoft's most recently released numbers. PlayStation 3 is 2.1 million units behind Xbox 360 in units sold, but it's also been on the market for a year less time than its primary competition.

If you average out worldwide units sold per month of each console, the numbers favor Sony. Over its lifetime of 72 months on the market, Xbox 360 is averaging about 800,000 units sold per month. Over 60 months on the market, PlayStation 3 is averaging 925,000 units sold per month.

Based solely on averages, if you were to remove Xbox 360's year head start, 57.6 million units sold becomes 48 million units sold. If you were to give PlayStation 3 12 more months to sell, paralleling Xbox 360's lifecycle, PS3's 55.5 million units becomes 66.6 million units sold.

Xbox 360 is certainly outselling PlayStation 3 in North America, but Europe is a Sony stronghold, and Xbox 360 support in Japan is essentially non-existent. When you take worldwide sales as a whole into account, PlayStation 3 is on a clear trajectory to ultimately overtake Xbox 360 in sales, possibly as soon as next year.

This isn't an article designed to incite the passions of [censored] and loyalists (though it most certainly will). Rather, this article's goal is to simply point out an oft-overlooked fact about the sales parity between the two HD twins.

There are a number of opinions on why the gap is rapidly closing. PlayStation 3 has many more exclusive games than Xbox 360 and a free online service. One could easily use the old fallback that Xbox 360's insanely high failure rate earlier in its lifecycle contributed to more consoles being sold. But frankly, that's all conjecture.

The only fact is that you can't ignore the numbers.


My opinion i don't care so much for the numbers as long as the games runs without any significant problems at all.....

Game Of The Year

After they fixing the annoying glitches....YEAH..... Game Of The Year