ACTUALLY ... Card games are pretty damn expensive. Believe me, I know. I had tournament-playing friends that did MTG and That Y Game.

I should do a thread for those, LOL.


Most of those exclusives are pretty poor quality. There are some I wish wouldn't be (MGS4, Demon's / Dark Souls, other) but overall it's not enough. The first Halo was the best one.

And if you don't pay for LIVE, you can't play any multiplayer games. So if someone doesn't want to play anything online they can subtract it.

And someone's forgetting that the Xbox 360 has a hardware failure rate close to 50%. I imagine their warranty process was less than fun to deal with during peak RROD time.

Unnecessary upgrades are a luxury so they're not included. I'd also have to include hard drive upgrades / wireless add-on, expensive third party controllers, etc for 360. It would be a nightmare.

A lot of things can cause the prices to not equal out or separate farther. But a lot of the time they're even or pretty close.

I said I buy the discs and put them into my DVD drive. I'm pretty sure Piracy doesn't involve buying a disc from Best Buy / Amazon.

Intentionally mis-quoting to get a reaction is a well-known form of trolling. This is against the rules.

Discs are a physical good. What I do with them is up to me once I've bought them. If I want to put them back in the box and sell them to a friend or Gamestop without the publisher getting anything that's legally protected.

The only thing I can't do is make a copy and sell the original, sell the copy, or give away the copy.

Accusing someone of being a troll is also against the rules, and so is flame-baiting.

ERR? Console games are cheaper lol. PC is expensive WHEN YOU HAVE TO UPGRADE. And if you don't have help building a superrig for cheap, you will spend ALOT on a PC that is subpar.

But as far as gaming history overall goes, yeah console gaming is more expensive. Considering years prior when games were only 39.99 brand spanking new, and consoles were 299.99. Now we have 59.99 games and 499.99 consoles.


LOL!

Exactly, neither is more expensive than the other. PC gaming might be cheaper for you, but it's not for me. You could make PC gaming more expensive by buying a new part twice a week, it all depends on how you play.

I don't need to. I only added the $10 extra retail price to the console price.

If I added the other $50 to both consoles it wouldn't make a difference. One is still gaining $10 per game relative to the other. So I skipped that amount on both for simplicity of smaller numbers. The relationship doesn't change.

I also said the PS3 was a pretty good deal for most people.

P.S. Accusing someone of flame-baiting is against the rules. And probably a form of flame-baiting. Man, this is deep stuff.

^{Yeah I don't care what someone else does with their money. I read somewhere that they call it freedom.}

I didn't forget the failure rate at all. That's actually why I mentioned it. Microsoft knows there's problems, and will respond to them quicker and with fewer questions than PC manufacturers. You also don't have to debug a console, it doesn't get viruses, it doesn't get bloated with all manner of crappy programs and spyware. This can all be removed easily, but not by the typical gamer. PC requires a learning curve, often it's a lot easier (and cheaper!) to buy the box that just plays games.

Upgrades may be necessary, considering how often PC games are just console ports and poorly optimized.

A lot of PC games sell for $60 now.

Even then, the cost of an 800$ PC is just PC you can't do anything with after the 200$ of Xbox Live you would have enough money for 5 brand new games. At this point you have the choice between $800 of Xbox 360, Xbox live, and Xbox games or You can get an $800 PC that can only play Flash Games, TF2, and anything else you can get for free and you won't have any peripherals so you can't even use the PC.

I've never had a PC part manufacturer give me the run-around beyond asking me to run a certain test to make sure it was actually their part. Even then they didn't ask for proof of said test. It was more of a, "You sure? You can do this to check." "Alright, send it in."

Though there are certain brands that will

But yeah, thread isn't about other advantages / disadvantages. It isn't even about PC > console. It's about the "it's so much cheaper" argument specifically.

Ummmm .... Wow. That's now how math works.

When you include the $50 the prices stay the same relative to each other. The raising console price includes only the $10 MS/Sony fee. If you include the rest of the price it goes up even more even though the PC price goes up with it. It catches up at the same number of games ...

Okay. Just for you.

30 games * $50 ($10 was already subtracted from the thirty 360 copies and put into the platform price) = $1500 in games.

$1500 + $800 PC = $2300

$1500 + $800 360 = $2300

I'm not one of the people who buys 30 games. I've got some PC games and come console games.

He's saying if you have $800 to spend RIGHT NOW, you could get an Xbox 360 with XBL and some games or you could get an $800 PC with no games.

There's still other things you need for a PC aside from games, mouse, keyboard, monitor, etc.. But with an Xbox all you need is a TV, another thing with PCs is upgrading them, I'm certain no one is going to go four years without upgrading their PC.

True, but you'll have paid way more in the future.

At above: TVs are more expensive than monitors if you want to go there. Mice + keyboards are cheap enough to include in the price.

4 years without an upgrade is doable. I did it, had to run many games on medium settings by the fourth year, but they still looked better and ran in 1080p as opposed to 720p.

I think these days I'll upgrade every 3.

This topic has been beaten to death worse than Jim Caviezel in Passion of the Christ. Haduken!!! I play on PC, and I think it's great but there's always that issue of a game not working for me, such as RAGE and LA Noire....I would easily admit user error but all I did was instal lthe games, no worky. much monkey anger ensued.

To be fair though RAGE was a pretty bad game.

Not sure about LA Noire's PC issues, but it's unfortunate since I was thinking about getting it when it goes on sale.

Let's just hypothetically say this is true in every case; so what? Expenses become less painful when stretched over periods of time. Paying $500 for something right now is cheaper than paying $50 a month over12 months for that same something but that doesn't make it the better option.

I wonder who gives a rat's ass....

Seriously (I'm being completely serious), just use whatever gaming system you want to use. I chose X-Box because I'm an American god dammit and I don't want to go through the intensive labor of replacing PC parts every couple of years. I also prefer a controller to a mouse and key board. It had very little to do with the cost. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to get back to playing my wonderful console games on LIVE because I enjoy it.

/rant

Everyone can chose their own way of having fun. I play on Xbox and on PC, and they are great for different things. Most of my friends play Xbox, so I use it for more social games. My PC is reserved for mostly singleplayer games. I don't get why people always bash consoles or start wars between the two. It really doesn't matter, at all. If someone is having fun using a slightly different shaped box than you, why is it such a big deal?

Most people already have a tv, or multiple TVs before getting a console. I did. Also, I only buy 2 or so games a year, and my xbox was 250.

So, monitor (average is 200 for a good one, I think?) + PC = 1000. So it'd take 13 games to reach what a PC would cost for me. And, you have to buy new cards and whatnot every couple years. Which also average around 200.

Lets be serious gaming is expensive you pay money just to see pixels.

This topic will remain closed.

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