Console gaming is not cheaper. It is when you first bring it home, but after a couple years it finds ways to catch up. Slowly though, to make sure nobody notices.


You're very wrong. Someone did a complete cost anolysis of Xbox over PC and found that after 4 years an Xbox was the same as an $800 PC. This is going to replicate the major parts.

Assume PC is $800. Reasonable price. We're not going to include monitor in that because we'd have to include >=720P HDTV with the Xbox, and that would make it START more expensive. We are including mouse, keyboard, etc though since we're including cables for the Xbox and assuming it's the hard drive version. I'll be nice enough to leave out the $100 wi-fi adapter (rofl -- those are like $5-$10).

Assume Xbox starts at $300 (incl hard drive, yadda yadda, cables, any other wanted accessories)

Every year you pay for LIVE, yeah? We're anolyzing four years and XBL is $50 a year.

That's $200. Xbox has gone from $300 to $500 already.

Now factor in the games. New Xbox game = $60. New PC game = $50 (usually).

That means that to equalize the price you only have to buy 30 Xbox games ( ($800-$500)/$10 = 30 ).

That's less than 8 each year for four years (30/4 = 7.5)

And this isn't counting things like the original Modern Warfare or Team Fortress 2 where PC gamers got the paid DLC for free.

And even if you get games from bargain bin / sale I can guarantee you PC gets better sales through Steam. Right now MW2 is on sale for $15. Sale prices still have to take the console maker's license fee into account. That $~8 fee doesn't magically disappear during the holidays.

If you use Xbox Netflix, make sure to add the extra fee into the console costs. Microsoft charges you extra on top of what Netflix charges, so lump that in with LIVE, but leave the actual Netflix price out (assume PC Netflix if Xbox Netflix is added in).

You're paying for a gaming PC. You just don't know it because you've been nickel and dimed by Microsoft over the course of years.

Admittedly Sony's platform is a much better choice assuming you don't opt for PSN+. You have an extra 20 games to buy before it achieves price-parity with PC.

tl;dr: You can't use cost as an advantage for consoles. Unless you're talking strictly Sony (since it's also a Blu-Ray player).

And no, I don't care what someone plays on. Just don't pretend it's cheaper by ignoring more than half of the system's real cost.

This again?

I'm as serious as a binary star system, and that's pretty dang sirius.

He's new, only joined a few weeks back. He won't have seen the arguments before, let him have his fun

Seriously, just play on what you play on, stop caring what other people say, and be happy.

I'm going to get into a heated argument about the method of choice I use to waste my time. PC is obviously the best way to waste time.

I only buy a few games a year, so it's cheaper for me to just keep my console than pay for a gaming PC that I would still only buy a few games a year for.

Did you seriously just decide that this needed a whole new thread?
1) You can buy Xboxes cheaper than that, or have it as a gift (a much cheaper gift for someone to buy than a gaming PC)
2) Not everyone has XBL
3) Many people wait for a game price drop and don't buy at initial RRP, and many may not buy that many games, or have a swap system with friends
4) Many people share a PC, so either you have a gaming system that you have limited time with, or you buy two PCs

First time I've laughed and facepalmed...

It assumes buying a new system.

And console games after price drop are still more expensive.

It's being very generous by ignoring Steam sales.

And XBL is a hard requirement for any kind of multiplayer gaming. Most people have it.

Also, a swap system is equivalent to piracy and probably against EULA. So we're going to assume no such thing is happening. Ditto used sales for a very similar reason.

Piracy:

One person buys game
Others enjoy game for free
Publisher gets nothing

Swap system:

One person buys game
Others enjoy game for free
Publisher gets nothing

Okay, but more importantly, who (besides yourself) cares?

Judging from the tone your wallet suddenly started.

*sigh*
You know what, you win. Despite many people having vastly different reasons for buying consoles (price being one of them), you clearly know what is best for the majority of gamers, because clearly you know how the majority of people live and why they make the choices they make. Congratulations!

You've got to be squidding me OP. This argument is unfair because bias.
You also forgot to factor in building the PC, ease of hooking everything up, keyboard, monitor, mouse, operating system, and any other PC accessories which are all more expensive then one more controller on the Xbox. Another thing you did wrong was you never added the cost of the games on the PC to the total cost of the PC.

I prefer the Wii. It's the cheapest and has the widest variety in games.

Egotistical, too. We've got a winner.

What happens if you don't pay for Live? Or buy fewer than 8 games per year? I bought one game this year. Granted I don't play on consoles.

What happens if the PC users want to upgrade? You know a lot of them do, there's always that temptation. What happens if something goes wrong in the PC? I'd wager Xbox 360 warranties are easier to deal with. Especially if you build your own PC.

And what about console exclusive games?

You shouldn't even mention an HDTV as a requirement, even if you didn't include it in the price. Many people are going to buy an HDTV anyway, console or not. Likewise most people are going to buy a PC too, so the only upfront cost of PC gaming is the GPU and generally higher quality parts needed.

If we're being completely serious, my wallet is an inanimate object. It can't care about anything.

I always thought card games were cheaper. I just feel so much more superior to PC and Console gamers because of this.

I really like the Wii's catalog.

The visuals are nice and clean. No filter frenzy, no brown and grey only, no MATURE GAMES FOR MATURE GAMERS, and pretty solid gameplay.

Given, I run my Wii games in 1080P through certain means ... but I do buy the discs so that's just fine.

You just admitted to pirating Wii games, and playing them on an emulator. This is against the rules.

I am sure Nintendo would have something to say to that.

Oh lord no more Horrible puns please!

@OP: No, not everyone has XBL. No, not everyone buys 7-8 games a year. And though you discounted monitor because consoles require a TV, most people have a TV anyways for watching TV! Many may not have a spare monitor or a high res one when they buy a new PC. Some people, like myself, will still have the old PC set up somewhere so I can't just take that monitor, I'd need a new one for a new PC. I could go into even more detail but really, is someone else's personal choice really that big of a deal to you?

thanks for the info i will carry on playing xbox now ok bye