real mini gun- 66 lbs 7.62mm electrically rotating gattling barrel (may make less recoil)
fo mini gun smaller 5mm round ammo in back pack handles designed for carrying and hip fire

.50 cal bmg 84 lbs it is like 5ft long 127 lbs with tri pod. It is a rectangle with a barrel on it. The kick from a .50 mg has got to be immense. There is a reason its on planes and tanks.

Men carry one some times, but only fire it from a sand bag weighted tripod and sit behind it.

The wwll MOH winner was said to have rapped the belt around his body, and used rags so his skin would not melt on the barrel. They are not made to be held and fired at all.

The mg 42 is 25 lbs and is about 3.5 ft long. I can see this weapon being shouldered, but the 1200 rpm would be difficult to control.

You would have to be really serious about short controled bursts.

I could be.......... It said he pulled it off of a plane. Let me try to find it on line. It may have been the .30 I saw it like 3 years ago on the military channel show called simply "Medal of Honar" Men have done remarkable things when the odds are stacked against them and a lot of dead and wounded people are all around them.

I think there was a couple of MOH winners who used the M1919 without the tri-pod. I'm pretty sure i have seen some old pics of German troops firing the MG42 standing up but i think they were using the number twos shoulder as a support. Damn my old memory. As for the man carried mini-gun never going to happen in RL.

I seem to remember seeing some old footage of a MOH winner showing how he did it in the pacific, I'm sure he was a Marine. Was on history channel awhile ago.

I just looked at wwll MOH winners and I can t find it. There are so many of them. Im pretty sure the guy did it vs japs, but they foughg japs on a lot of islands.

In any case I m sure this happened, but I may be wrong about the .50. It may have been a .30.

I just read about men diving on grenades for like 2 hours. One guy dropped his own grenade and jumped on it so it didn t kill anyone else.

1 man killed 75 men, 1 man killed 60 men 1 man beat 4 japs to death with a bar after it got shot and broke. He got killed. Men just charging ahead of everyone else and clearing out fox holes.

Mens Men

Just crazy insane brave stuff.

I've had the honour of meeting two VC winners both were very down to earth nice guys who just happened to do what they thought was right at the time & didnt even think about it. When asked if they would do it again they both said yes, they were just helping out their mates.

well after I looked the 42 up it seems more possible than I thought, but still its not something that was done a lot I m sure.

The only full auto weapons I ve fired were small smgs chambered with .22 cal to save the owners money. They had almost no recoil, but a mg 42 is a whole different animal. lol

I can see shoting 12 rounds and you re looking up in the air lol.

You d have to burst fire it to a point that it would defeat it s purpose I would think. A super mutant could handle an mg 42 great I bet, but I don t know about a human. Maybe a hulk in pa........

A MOH winner from Korea charged chinese mgs up a snow covered hill, jumped in their trenches killed like 15 men and lived. They asked him why he did it...... He said he was tired of being scared.

With the MAG-58,M60 &F-89 (minimi) we were told to do 10-15 round bursts to best control the weapon. Using the Mag58 & the M60 in SFMG mode where its mounted on a tripod, staked & sandbagged you could do a whole belt of 100 rounds no prob. Just swap the barrels out when finished. Funny as hell at night watching the barrel grow red hot & you could even see it start to droop. It used to piss the armourer off though. Same as putting a match stick behind the sear pin on the SLR to make it into an AR. If you forgot to remove it you could find your ass on a charge.

See why'd you have to go and use your darned logic to poke holes in my snarky lil' reply. Made me feel bad :sadvaultboy:

10 - 15 out of an m-60 holding it? Then Im sure the mg 42 could be used to that effect. I didn t know was only 25 lbs until I looked it up.

The 42 it not as long as I thought either. They call it a general purpose mg. I thought it was more 3rd reich heavy mg. 7.92mm may be the biggest mg they had. The 900-1500 rpm is crazy fast.

I wonder if it jammed much?

Well, when you're the gunner, you're usually in some sort of supported position (lying prone, or crouching with the bipod on something), If you need to fire it standing up, the whole situation's probably gone to [censored], and when that happens, you're more concerned about getting rounds downrange than anything.

Agreed, but the 42 in fo would be fine imo. I just looks more like a weapon that could be shouldered. Now the .50 and .30 mgs do not look like they are made to hold and shoot at all.

I have always been interested in firearms. I learned a little as a kid, spent my time in the Marines learning how to use them properly, and have since spent many pleasant nights with a cigar in one hand, a beer in another and a history book in the other. Often times those books are on firearms. My "area of expertise" I suppose, since it's what I know the most about, is 20th century service rifles, mainly from the world wars. My brother and I collect these types of weapons and once a year I make the trip to his house in Michigan and we shoot every one of them. He's Army, I'm Marine so there's a bit of a rivalry, and yes, he hasn't beat me yet.


Two words: Power Armor. Make the ST requirement 15 and make PA give you +10 ST. Done.

As for the Medal of Honor awardee (you don't "win" a Medal of Honor, it ain't some three-legged race or something, you earn it) you're probably thinking of Marine Gunnery Sergeant John Basilone. On Guadalcanol he, (and Mitch Page) ran around the jungle from gun pit to gun pit, repairing M1917s, humping ammo and gunning. At one point, when one of Basilone's gun crews was overrun and their weapons jammed, he took a M1917, cradled it in his arms and moved over to restore the line. He fired the M1917 from the hip and during one wave of attacking Japanese, he jumped out of the pit and rested the weapon on the dirt berm and put on quite a show of machinegun marksmanship. He had to go out in front of the lines after that and push the piled up bodies out from in front of the gun pit just to get a clear field of fire. Basilone was one helluva Marine. After a war bond tour stateside, he requested a return to combat. He landed on Iwo Jima and died on the first day. The memory of Gunnery Sergeant John Basilone is most revered by us Marines.

I have fired both the SAW and the M60 offhand. They're both a [censored] to keep on target and they get heavy as hell. I'm no machinegunner, I know that much. You'd need to be a much bigger dude to do that with any effect. Mortars were my thing. Let me blow some [censored] up.

-Gunny out.

I heard bout a Korean MOH that had a squad of soldiers with him and the enemy was moving up and he told his squad to fall back and he would take them out. So they fell back and he shot them up and once he was out of ammo he ran at them with a knife (after already taken a shot to the arm) and killed like 5 others then got shot up and just then they got reinforcements or something and killed the rest...it was insane.

Yeah, it's possible, but like you said it's a [censored]. I know guys who can just Rambo a 240 bravo (one arm, stock in the crook of the arm) and keep it steady (well maybe not steady) for a good 10 round burst. That's not me at all, I'm a big guy, but give me a bipod and a mount and I'm good with that.

EDIT: odd question for you Gunny, ever played a game called Far Cry 2? It's a FPS released a few years back set in Africa, and you get http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5XJRvMxu5I&feature=related(a Chinese light mortar).... Good fun if you can actually hit something.

I so wanted to get that game, but the bad press about it's stability have made me shy away. I don't buy many games, and while I also don't usually worry about reviews, but everything I heard about the game's stability was bad. How did you find it? Maybe you should PM me, this is a little OT. But to tie it in, give me a mortar in FO and I win, everyone else dies. I slay with a mortar. Hell, I even use the grenade launchers for indirect fire most of the time.

-Gunny out.

Everything I've shot with it so far died pretty quick, I'm pleased with it. I wonder if there is special dialog for visiting Caesar with a certain outfit and weapon from HH.

"Hey Edward...I got a message for ya." (Attack)

You have to add to the weight of the minigun the weight of the power supply, which adds lots of weight. An M2 in Fallout would also have handles on it like the minigun and would likely have been designed to be used by power armored troops.

Should have a 10 STR requirement or even better a power armor requirement.

i was just on my way to the rangers safehouse and there are several Deathclaws arround that place the shining ligth did short work of them beeping awsome gun :hubbahubba: