I like these stats; I've never been a big fan of armor(light or heavy) so I'm looking forward to wearing these. I'm curious to see what Necromancers Robes look like this time around. Plus this time I can wear them, and not feel like a guards going to arrest me the moment I walk into town.

I think you mean in Morrowind right? There was no enchanting skill in Oblivion.

Also, notice that any advantage in the enchanting skill has to be measured by subtracting what you could get without the skill from what you can get with the skill.

For example, if with enchanting you get 400% magic regen but without enchanting you can still get 150% magic regeneration the total advantage of that skill is actually 400-150= 250 regen... Of course that is hypothetical, but I still doubt enchanting will be much more powerful than other magics, and definitely not as powerful as it was in Morrowind.

Also, certain items probably allow for more powerful enchantments than others. Im guessing robes can hold more powerful enchants than armor, same for body armor vs boots, etc.

Edit: Also, I really hope alchemy is more powerful than enchanting, since it is far more tedious to use alchemy imo and it needs the incentive. Or at least make the two skills have very different effects so that they are not immediately comparable with one being an obvious better choice. Not to say you can't just use both though... but still...

I really hope that it's finally the case, because in the previous games it was the opposite - armor held more enchantment than clothing/robes. And I couldn't help but notice that nearly all Enchantment perks refer to _armor_ or weapons. I really, really hope that it doesn't mean that robes/jewelry/wands will be really inferior items for enchantment.

We are all aware of opportunity costs. I′m pretty sure Alchemy is going to be quiet strong too, but as time stops as soon as you enter your inventory only nonstackable potions will realy benefit .. as you can just consume 10 health or stamina or magicka potions in a row without 1 single second of ingame time passing ... Quiet frankly one of the most stupid things in Skyrim.

My pure mage Altmer will be a force of nature, it seems.

magicka regen is great but potions more than make up for it...

It wasn't a skill, but it was an option; with sigil stones or black soul gems a very powerful option. I wonder, since Black Soul Gems have returned in shopkeep inventories, what will I be able to do with them? Will there be some legendary soul gems with even greater power?

I am hoping Black soul gems have some extra effect, considering their origins. I was soo disappointed in Oblivion when I discovered they we just different color grand gems (in terms of enchanting power.)

You can buy black soul gems?? That sounds silly unless we are buying from necros

The Court Wizard at Whiterun sells them. He sells the tome for Raise Zombie too, so I guess he IS a necromancer.

Well since Necromancy is legal now, maybe black soul gems followed suit. I guess the people think its OK since the souls don't stay in there forever anyway. Man I am so happy that I can raise the dead, and use these gems without "Violating The Law".

Hmm, interesting, kinda takes some of the excitement away from necromancy, but if it is integrated creatively and believably into the culture I'll be happy with it. It is a little hard for me to believe that at least the common folk of Skyrim wouldn't be a little uneasy with necromancy though. (Not that this thread has anything to do with necromancy, sorry for the tangent... I'll try to being us back smoothly...)

Well if necromancer robes have 75% better regen, that is probably a common level robe enchantment. Wonder what the powerful robes will do...

Some Nords make comments against (And dislike) Magic as a whole.

If black soul gems are that commonplace, I'm going to guess that they won't automatically give you grand level souls when used.

Well they can grumble all they want. Meanwhile I'll be resurrecting their great, great grandmother's corpse to paint my house.

It specifically says Black Soul Gem (Grand). What WILL be the case is that black soul gems will be the fastest path to a grand level enchantment. Seriously, why bother with anything else if that's the top tier?

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I'm hoping that they put more thought into the soulgem system since adding the enchant skill, but if not, the reason for having other soul gems would be I guess more for recharging or making minor enchants for training and such. If you are going to make so many enchantments that you max out the skill, you probably don't want to buy that many black soul gems... unless it just turns into a gold mine where the enchantment on the item is worth way more than the item and the gem combined... in which case I guess yeah, just black soul gems... and lots and lots of filthy rich enchanters.

For my battlemage Dunmer character Im gonna mix robes w/ heavy armor.

In Oblivion if you finagled your way into making some at the earliest possible time, only a few hours into the game, you could create a "Disc One Nuke" type weapon that would kill almost anything you came up against for the first few levels. That's DEFINITELY what I'm going to do. Use that weapon until you reach the next step in material types and recycle the enchanted weapon to make the next one even more deadly.

+50 magicka is the amount you'd get from applying your level up bonus to magicka for 5 levels. You start with a pool of 100.

It's a strong, but not game breaking bonus. +50 to any of your stats (stamina, health, or magicka) will definitely be noticed.

Unless by some chance potions cost resources to make or buy.

Oh what's that? Potions cost resources to make or buy?

Well then I guess that the probably won't "make up for it" unless you're using a limited amount of magic.

If potions are trivial to buy or produce, and can be chain used, then yes, mana regen will mean very little. If that's the case, you'd be stupid to wear robes anyway, since for a mage, the major drawback of heavy armor is slower mana regen.