Thanks guys for backing me up I was wondering if I was crazy or something :thumbsup:

Its a http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1204037-wip-merp-middle-earth-roleplaying-project/ already At least a planned one - we're just waiting for the Creation Kit.

I prefer Nirn's lore over the Middle Earth's one...

Conan was created long before Middle Earth. Anyone who thinks fantasy began with Tolkien doesn't know much about fantasy.

LOTR was the one of the first fantasy series. TES is based on his novel and The Silmarillion in many ways!

Yeah, but it's how he did it that made it such a legacy.

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haha did you just make a fool of yourself or what XD

you do realize tolkien wrote his books decades ago

I didn't say fantasy as a genre began with Tolkien. I'm saying an insufferable amount of the fantasy that came AFTER Tolkien is based on ideas, themes, and tropes popularized or created by Tolkien.

but the books came out waaaaay before which may have been the inspiration

Can the TC explain how a LoTR open world game would even work? Things like magic would have to be gimped and fairly non-existent for obvious reasons especially by the time the third age rolls around if you've familiar with the lore.

I'd take TES VI Elsweyr any day instead of a lotr made by BGS.

@pentahedron, just place the wnb lotr game at a fictional era and all problems of existing lore is solved.

To be fair, even Tolkien wasn't that dominating of an influence until Dungeons and Dragons came out. Roleplaying games and books based on them crushed most of the creativity from the genre.

There's actually a lot of non-Tolkien fantasy out there, but people are too Drizzt-obsessed to notice.

There is so much incorrect in this thread that it makes a Lord of the Rings fanatic

Professor Tolkien is the father of modern fantasy. The world of Middle Earth was originally created as a setting for the languages he had created. Tolkien was a philologist. He loved the spoken and written word.

The Hobbit as originally written as a children's story, and was published in 1937. When asked to write a sequel to the successful book he began to work on the Lord of the Rings. The book began to get completely away from him. It was written during the period of 1937-1949. When he finished it in 1949 it still took 5 years before the Fellowship of the Ring was published. There were many disagreements between Tolkien and his publisher that caused this long period before being published. The Lord of the Rings was released in three volumes during an approximate year long period between July 1954 and October 1955.

The Silmarillion, not published until after Tolkien's death, was actually being written during World War I. Tolkien would hand write small pieces that would later come together as the stories of the earlier ages of Middle Earth.

It has been stated by Professor Tolkien that the Lord of the Rings is absolutely not any form of allegory. He detested allegory in all forms.

~Rathmaker~

Not the problems wouldn't be solved because Tolkien has a complete history for everything that happens. Once the third age is over, it slowly becomes what we have today since middle earth still takes place on earth.

Despite it being the influence for almost every fantasy series since it's creation, LoTR is quite unique in that it doesn't have people hurling around fireballs and stuff like that.

I agreed with everything you said except this. He's only the father of Tolkienesque fantasy, which is the inspiration for most roleplaying games.

And the books came out decades before TES. You can tell the inspiration. Don't take offense at it, it's not like being inspired by something great is a bad thing.

And after the movies came out, you can definitely see Jackson's films inspired the art direction of Oblivion and Skyrim big time. Most of Oblivion is very LotR-inspired, and Whiterun looks exactly like the Rohan city.

Along with a lot of fantasy especially in literature which is influenced in some way by his work. I can't think of anyone else who holds as much influence as him and his novels are the highest selling in the world when it comes to fiction.

While I am not trying to go on a Tolkien fan rant and get into a fight with anyone here, almost all modern fantasy is done this way. All writers (and game developers) have twisted it around one way or another and put their own spin on it, but many of these ideas have come from basis which Tolkien created. Please notice I said most.

No one person has had near the amount of influence on fantasy as Tolkien.

A little fact people may not know: The Lord of the Rings was the 2nd most selling book in the 20th century...behind only the Bible.

Yeah in a life's work and invention of modern fantasy kind of way. You have not pursued his full works or you would not try to boil it down like that. Every single piece of modern fantasy is based in some way on his prior work. There have been some creators of novel works, but they aren't many.

I LOVE Tolkien, but I'm just fine with Bethesda focusing on their own properties. There's enough Tolkien influence on Elder Scrolls that I feel it would only be redundant. We'd essentially be playing the same game and I would rather they put those energies into creating the next chapter of TES.

Perhaps 'influenced by' is a better term than 'based on'. Other than that, no other fantasy writer in history has as far reaching an impact. Tolkien was THE pioneer of fantasy writing. I suggest that no other writer in history has had a deeper impact on contemporary fiction. Few have dedicated decades of their lives to the creation of a body of work like he has, especially for fiction. 'All he did was this with a smattering of that' is a ludicrous statement.

He is saying because a lot of the scenes look like the movies, ive read all the books... many times, since I was a young boy... stop being ignorant

I will admit... Whiterun is very similar to Edoras..

Going to add my two cents for those arguing who wrote best fantasy inspiration - Tolkien or Howard. Well, either of them, along with Ursula LeGuin. These three authors started three main themes of fantasy.



Pretty much this.