To be fair almost all of them are the only good vampires I can think of off the top of my head would be Serana and Count Hassildor and im not entirely sur I can classify Serana as good.

In Skyrim and real life too there will always be death and evil as long as mankind walks the earth. Humans have the capability of great acts of kindness and ingenuity, but also that of destruction. All we can do is trying to control our inner nature and prevent ourselves from destroying what everyone holds dear life it self. There will be more ways to end life than to preserve it. Back to the topic at hand, the Volkihar see mortals as a valuable resource. If "feral vampires" feed to often it could deplete that resource, or if they create too many vampires the demand for blood could be so high it wouldn't bet met. So the survival of vampires and humans are intertwined one cannot survive without the other. Reason being without humans vampires starve, without the Volkihar regulating themselves the humans would go extinct.

Janus Hassildor still feeds on people. And he employed the Pale Lady to harvest blood for his wife.

Exactly without the Volkhihar keeping the thin bloods under control there would already have been a vamp vs human war like i said in one of my post above about movarth had we not killed him and his little thin blooded losers that entire situation could have gotton out of hand real quick real fast.

Serena

Valecirca

Hassildor (Count and Countess

Jaken Imbaen

Yourself (Depending on how you play)

Spouse (if you turn her)

sybille stentor of the blue palace.

I want to know how in Skyrim there are public figure vampires like sybille and how do they not notice her never aging a day, and looking the like see is in her 20-30 for 60 something years. In Oblivion Janus Hassildor he doesn't go out so people don't see him not aging, but wouldn't you think the towns people would think its strange to have the same count for 300 years.

Has anyone noticed sybille new vampire eyes? she doesn't have the eyes the thin bloods infact she has the ones serana has...could she also be a daughter of coldharbor?

Restoration magic can extend your lifespan and jannus hassildor was a very powerful mage.

He adopted the guise of being a powerful wizard who extends his life by magical means, though we all know it a load of balogna and he truly is that old because of his vampirism. Sybille Stentor apparently is going the same route, where most would assume she looks so young and lives so old because of her arcane abilities. Vampires can lie through their teeth and claim they just simple wizards and mages.

"A master sorcerer like Janus Hassildor inevitably outlives all his peers. It must be a lonely existence."

Edit: Janus is not that old to begin with. In the game he says he was turned to a vampire fifty years prior, making him one of the youngest vampire NPC's in the game.

Still every single vampire must use that excuse people must be thinking, I wonder why everyone is so darn good at restoration. Also the orange glowing eyes, pale skin, 6 inch fangs, never going out in the sun, you never see them eat, how stupid are the npcs, surely they can put two and two together.

That is the Volkihar. People can tell they are vampires. They comment on the eyes and even the face-changing woman knows you are undead. Cyrodiilic vampires can blend in perfectly, like http://ukigumo.up.269g.net/image/Oblivion202007-10-292010-53-27-21.jpg and http://www.tamriel.fr/images/oblivion/solution_bottesdejaktalonleger_1.jpg, they barely even pass as vampires. If the vampire is smart enough, he/she will eat, sleep well and feed regularly to keep themselves hidden. Jakben was suspected to have a rare skin condition to justify the reason he didn't go out in the sun.

Its a good thing me and Serana look normal because we go out in broad daylight xD

If the lady in the rat way knows your a vampire and after stage 4 if you have DG every else knows your a vampire how come they don't attack. That was the entire point of feeding. What are they thinking, "Ehhh if I say anything vampire rights groups will come I will be stuck in a lawsuit forever, I will be labeled a bigot. Its best if I just leave it be".

That is gameplay reason right there. Remember stage 4 had regular attacks, but since the kids and the babies kept tearing up complaining about being attacked, Bethesda removed it. I hate the fact that we don't get attacked no more and the feeding and blood potions is useless now. Thanks Bethesda, thanks a freaking lot.

Anyways, it is gameplay reasons. Truly, vampires would be shot on sight for being what they are. It is basically a crime against nature to be a vampire, according to the creatures known as mortals who are at the bottom of the food chain compared to vampires and werewolves.

As I said in another topic people will always pander to the whiniest person, even if the majority don't want what that 1 whiny person wants.

I can't wait for PC release hopefully there will be a mod that adds stage 4 attacks back in anyway don't you think Sybille was turned by harkon's court?

She shouldn't even be hanging around mortals in political areas if she's one of Harkon's dregs. Volkihar shouldn't be political with mortals at all, let alone be hanging around one of the most influential places in Skyrim, few feet away from a queen only to stand around with glowing eyes and fangs. Pre-Dawnguard Sybille was better.

I know this is late but... Wait what? You can turn your spouse? O_o

Another late comment.... This may only apply to Elves. Notice how if you are actually out in the light with the vampire eyes, they don't look that odd. They look like eyes some elves do in fact have. That coupled with feeding regularly, you could be mistaken for just an elf with peculiar eyes. Also if you practice magic, some people would think that's just because of your magic if the eyes are in fact odd. Only the very paranoid are looking for vampires in their midst and only the very educated can notice them easily on accident.

Basically this.

I never noticed this... I was too paranoid of being attacked to let it get to that point haha. This just goes to show, don't complain about something unless it is really, REALLY a problem. Too bad not everyone can be taught this, but we can all be vigilant and stand up for why some things are the way they are.

So are the thin bloods volikar or members of the order? Or just another strain of vampires?

Try reading the book Immortal Blood. This book shows that every region of Tamriel has a different type of vampirism, as it has evolved in different directions in each area. Sure, Volkiharian vampires might be the closest to the source, but remember the creation myth regarding vampires. As the first, umm, did to the men around her what was done to her by Molag Bal, she created all the different forms of Undead. From the source, it became several different things. Vampirism was never quite as powerful as the first again, but that doesn't mean each strain didn't become powerful in it's own right.

Ha, thin-bloods members of the Order? Nay. Probably cast off vampires with the Volkihar strain. I don't think members of the Order would run around hiding in caves, they would be wiped out immedietly. To be a member of the Order Vampyrum, you have to have considerable influence and follow the tenets:

• Reveal yourself and the Order to no one.
  
• Do not feed where you may be discovered.
  
• Avoid daylight by lifestyle(I.E, they can walk in daylight, just don't do it on the regular basis).
  
• Dispel common belief on your kind.
  
• Feed regularly so that you can blend in social gatherings.
  
• Regard Clavicus Vile and Molag Bal as true deities and patrons of the bloodline, do not allow them to fall in disregard.
  
• Devote your life to influence; nobility, tax negotiations, politics, regal backround such as being a count or countess, etc.

If a vampire of Cyrodiil follows these guidelines, they will be recognized as members of the Order. Considering they worship Molag Bal, I wouldn't be surprised if some of them even became vampire lords. Though we cannot say for sure because the actual Order organization was not added in the game, just a few NPC's who fit the description.

• Devote your life to these guidelines and you are counted as a member of the Order.