Music you would like to hear

Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:23 am

Wow. That's the best explanation of the Fallout cultural timeline ever.
I think I'll just quote that whenever I see someone wanting rap in Fallout.

Thanks.

I believe the key point of divergence would have been President Truman failing to fire General McArthur like what happened in our timeline. McArthur would have gone ahead with his plans to use nukes in Korea, and America would not have been brought to a stalemate. One of the chief causes of the counter culture revolutions in our universe was, I believe, the failure of America in much of its operations overseas and around the world. The ongoing wars with no end and then no victory created a disillusionment with the government that undermined the propaganda and conservative line the public had been fed during the 1940s and 1950s.

This never happened in Fallout's universe. Why would you doubt or question the government, and not swallow its propaganda whole, if the American ideals it promoted actually worked and made America an unrivaled super power? The patriotic high that the American public rode on during WW2 would never end, and neither would the propaganda promoting happy, productive, good little citizens. Nothing to ever break or crack the illusion that the American way was the best way - the right way. Everything else just sort of falls into line after that.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:31 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPfmNxKLDG4&ob=av2e A little off of the timeline, but I think it really fits.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:30 am

Thanks.

I believe the key point of divergence would have been President Truman failing to fire General McArthur like what happened in our timeline. McArthur would have gone ahead with his plans to use nukes in Korea, and America would not have been brought to a stalemate. One of the chief causes of the counter culture revolutions in our universe was, I believe, the failure of America in much of its operations overseas and around the world. The ongoing wars with no end and then no victory created a disillusionment with the government that undermined the propaganda and conservative line the public had been fed during the 1940s and 1950s.



MacArthur never had authority to use atomic weapons...only the President had that authority. MacArthur was fired because he was spoiled by the 12 year Administration of his cousin FDR and forgot his place. Of course, if Truman hadn't left South Korea out of the policy document that defined the US "Sphere of Interest" the North might not have felt they could safely atttack. I find it fascinating you and others appear to believe that the Korean War was "US warmongering" considering it was the North Koreans who attacked South Korea without provocation.....are you saying we should have left South Korea to Kim Jong-IL and his "Progressive" Police State?
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:02 am

I just want more.. much, much more... It gets annoying listening to the same songs over and over... A playlist of 100 or more songs would be satisfying.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:32 am

There had better be a Megaton of music this time around. Theres really no excuse not to. Pcs can have near limitless storage, blue rays are 25-50 gigs. Use the space provided. Heck my ps3 has 1.15 tb now. Xbox guys, lol get an external or copy the radio disc to your hd. Im going to be pretty annoyed if there are only 25 songs or some low number like that.

Otherwise, I'll end up doing what i do now anyways, flipping on some metallica s&m or something like that. You can only hear " I'm a mighty mighty man, I'm young and in my prime " so many times before wastelanders start getting cut down before their prime.

Oh, and if Three Dog happens to show up, I'll make a rug outta him.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:04 am

THIS! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pELxwTp7gk&feature=related
AND http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9k4uKcuLGk&feature=related
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:41 am

MacArthur never had authority to use atomic weapons...only the President had that authority. MacArthur was fired because he was spoiled by the 12 year Administration of his cousin FDR and forgot his place. Of course, if Truman hadn't left South Korea out of the policy document that defined the US "Sphere of Interest" the North might not have felt they could safely atttack. I find it fascinating you and others appear to believe that the Korean War was "US warmongering" considering it was the North Koreans who attacked South Korea without provocation.....are you saying we should have left South Korea to Kim Jong-IL and his "Progressive" Police State?

McArthur had the support of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who were in the process of convening to give him authority to drop 30-50 nuclear bombs without presidential approval. McArthur was basically a rogue general who enjoyed far more support in Washington than Truman at the time, both because of his successes in WW2, and like you said, he was related to powerful people who were still well remembered. Truman says as much in his own book. Firing McArthur was the only way to stop him, because the Joint Chiefs of Staff agreed that nuclear weapons were the only hope of standing against the Chinese Army. Truman didn't want to stand against the Chinese Army.

No, I don't believe the Korean War was an act of warmongering, I was simply stating that it started a precedent for certain foreign policy matters and started the tide of public opinion of the government turning. It was the first war to halt the spread of Communism, and it ended in a stalemate. In the Fallout universe, this didn't happen, and probably started all the bad blood with China (you know, them getting nuked and everything). With the use of nuclear bombs, and no compunction against or restraint in using them, America would have been unstoppable in both the Korean and Vietnam wars. Remember that at the time of the Korean War, America was the only one with an advanced nuclear program. With no losses to demoralize the public and the nation, America would have become extremely militaristic as we see in the Fallout universe, using war to solve all its problems.

And all of this could plausibly stem from the actions of McArthur. Had Truman decided not to fire him, or waited too long to do so, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, President be damned, would have given McArthur clearance to use nukes - and the man damn well intended to . . . and history branches into the alternate world of Fallout.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:27 pm

I trust the music they will put in there

Music in Fallout 3 was amazing loved it
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:26 am

It would be a pretty fun collection quest for you to look for playable records for radio stations. That would have been a great one for Three Dog. Still, the songs on GNR were pretty good and there were enough to last through the game without feeling incredibly tedious.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:41 am

Louis Prima is going to be essential if they're going for a 50s Vegas feel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXYRkp2HZto
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmlI0PD3gg0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4V8pbg3rNU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIJzpdJIdmI

Agreed, gotta love King Louie
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:37 am

I think it is safe to say that metal, grunge, disco, electronica, etc. never happened in Fallout's universe. This is because the whole reason given for the divergence from our own timeline is that the social revolutions of the late 1950s and 1960s and 1970s never happened in the Fallout universe. There was never a counter-culture movement. Everyone toed the line and supported the Americana ideal of a house with a white picket fence, a working father, a stay-at-home housewife, and 2 kids and a dog. There was never a backlash like what happened in our own timeline. Patriotism stayed high, the kids ate their vegetables and became good citizens rather than pressing back by becoming hippies. The Women's Rights movement of the 1970s never happened.

America continued going to war in places like Korea and Vietnam to battle the "communist" threat, but never lost like in our timeline, because General McArthur likely had his way and started the precedent of using nuclear weapons in conventional warfare. The widespread use and acceptance of nuclear weapons led to accelerated research and development in the nuclear fields, resulting in the advanced development of smaller and more stable fusion generators. The oil and gas shortages still occurred like in our own timeline, but rather than be forced to look for alternative energy sources, upon which research had never started (unlike the green movement in our timeline), in Fallout's universe, they had the ready solution at hand - the fusion generators. America became an near unrivaled super power, because we now controlled the power source to run much of the worlds technology, exporting fusion generators and using them to run our war machine.

China was the only one that could possibly resist, due to their large population. Eventually due to lack of resources, and because war had never failed this America before (thus keeping the patriotic fervor in the country at a fever pitch), America invaded and annexed Canada, which has one of the largest deposits of high-grade uranium in the world. America needed the land for its people, and the uranium to fuel our bombs, machines, and super soldiers for the inevitable expansion of our empire. Enough to pose a now legitimate threat to China, probably the last stronghold of Communism left in Fallout universe. No one knows what happened next, but the world was nuked. Could have been America. Could have been China. Could have been both.

There is even an argument that the Elvis in Fallout's universe is not quite the same as in our own. It is likely Elvis became popular for his gospel music, light pop songs, etc. and never wrote or recorded any of his more controversial (for their time) songs like happened in our own universe. Who knows? Maybe Elvis never even became addicted to drugs and overdosed in the Fallout universe.

Anyway, all this is to say I don't think there is a chance in hell that metal or grunge or anything not easily digestible by the very conservative middle class American family ever happened in the Fallout universe.

while I like your reasoning, its a bit off. Check out the fallout bible, the first couple parts anyway. it has a great timeline that shows how it all went down. for example fusion power didnt arrive til very late in "Fallout history", right before the nukes went off actually and Mac never nuked anybody in the fallout time line. A nuke did go off in Tel Aviv I think, a fuel war between Europe and the Middle east started that chain of events.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:56 am

while I like your reasoning, its a bit off. Check out the fallout bible, the first couple parts anyway. it has a great timeline that shows how it all went down. for example fusion power didnt arrive til very late in "Fallout history", right before the nukes went off actually and Mac never nuked anybody in the fallout time line. A nuke did go off in Tel Aviv I think, a fuel war between Europe and the Middle east started that chain of events.

I realize it doesn't exactly fit with the Fallout Bible timeline, but I feel it makes more sense, and provides the best excuse for a split at the time it needs to occur to diverge the Fallout universe from our own. Regardless, it's just a bit of armchair theorizing, and the way I like to look at the whole thing.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:04 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGVnH39UzI8
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:02 pm

Like everybody else I also want more radio channels. If Agatha can have her own channel, pretty much everybody can. Doesn't necessarily have to be music, it can be propaganda from top people in CL or NCR like speeches or announcements. Don't know if this has been suggested before, but another cool thing would be if you go to a specific area with nothing around, you get a new radio signal in your pip-boy with some guy commenting on what you are doing. F.ex. you change from a rifle to a pistol and he will say "Don't fire that pistol now, you hear?" or if you stand still to long he will say "Thats my boy, stand still, so that I can get a clean shot."

In Fallout 3, I really loved the Enclave radio. Walking through a destroyed Washington with "Stars and stripes forever" and "Washington post" in the background gave me a mixed feel of greatness and hopelessness at the same time, and I hope New Vegas also can do something like this, music that reminds us how great it used to be before the war and how corrupt and [censored] it is now. They will probably not put in anything by Sousa in this game, but I hope they use music that has a real american feel to it. I don't know if country music and Nevada will be as good as marching band music and Washington when it comes setting the "then-and-now" feel. Don't know if I'm the only one that feels this way, but thats my thoughts anyway.

And I also hope that Inon Zur/Bethesda/Obsidian makes Zurs music available somehow (iTunes, Spotify). He is really a brilliant composer!
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:36 am

[censored] right its a beautiful day by Eels
Sweet home Alabama by Lynard Skynard
I wanna rock by Twisted sisters
Ace of spades by Motorhead
paradise city by Guns and roses
Back in black by ACDC
Wanted dead or alive by Bon jovi


And if you wanna be bad there also two suggestions that come to mind such as

Bad to the bone by George Thorngood
Highway to hell by ACDC

Anyone agree that these would make the foundations to one of the greatest soundtracks ever!
Please do!
Enjoy.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:09 am

This http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sg9XI7bYrA

It is isn't fifties music but I love this song since I am a dead fan who loves to gamble

or

This http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzfCgycpoqs

Kenny Rodgers is also great.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:45 am

Not that they will be in, but I would really like to hear every single Hans Zimmer's song.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:27 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Zm5c7mKjrQ
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:19 am

Would be nice with some of Beatles early work.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:26 am

Hrm...Let's see...some examples of music I will be listening to as I bumble about the Mojave...


Stone Temple Pilots - Plush
Metallica - Wherever I May Roam
Metallica - The Day that Never Comes
Disturbed - Indestructible
Disturbed - Land of Confusion*
Slipknot - Dead Memories
Apocalyptica - I'm not Jesus
Alice in Chains - Rooster
Chevelle - Jars
Guns 'n Roses - Civil War




See where I'm going with this? lol

And no, I don't think that sort of music 'breaks' the atmosphere. If anything it adds to it.


* Oh, uhh, go have a listen. This song sums up the entire Fallout universe pretty nicely. Now if you don't mind I'm going to go headbang.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:10 am

Johnny Cash. Appropriate, not to mention bad ass.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:15 am

Brotherhood of Steel featured popular metal bands in its soundtrack(Killswitch Engage). Thats what I am into. Thats what I'd like to hear, however that is not what everyone who will play NV would like to hear.

My idea. Make the radio songs easy to edit. I got that GNR mod for Fallout 3 and it takes forever to change the music.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:46 pm

So Lock this topic plz

Nevah!
The devs shall be forced to read all our suggestions, ranging from great to idiotic.
They shall read them all! *sinister laughter*
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:06 pm

More Bing Crosby and Kay Kyser.

I'd also like to hear The Four Seasons, but they were 60's, although they didn't really sound like it.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 11:18 am

any and all Les Paul and Mary Ford... dont forget to use listerine !
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