Nail in the coffin, cant make your story...lost intrest. : Othor Games

» Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:50 pm

it doesn't make any sense to have only three provinces available when you could have all the nine provinces. So much wasted potential.

Except you do have all 9 provinces available, it's not as if they're in the game and yet you're forever forbidden from accessing them.

» Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:35 am

Mere extensions of the developer's will to keep exploration and freedom out of their carebear setup.

I like how you call it carebear because it doesn't fit your definition.
I think you're a carebear because you whine and can't let things go since we're all using our personal definitions ^^

» Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:54 am

it doesn't make any sense to have only three provinces available when you could have all the nine provinces. So much wasted potential.

It makes perfect sense. Coding to allow people into every faction is more complicated than coding to keep you in allied territory. That saves time and means the game actually gets released when it is still relevant. Games are not created out of magic, everything takes time and there is only so much of that to allocate. 90% of the people who end up playing TESO will be thankful that they chose to spend their time on the gameplay than on total freedom of exploration (Which was probably a nich activity even in the current TES games).

» Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:37 pm

I for one have now lost complete intrest in ESO. I was pumped and was soo ready for ESO...after reading all the great features i came across one game breaking feature that IMO is why ppl play MMO's for, the abillity to create your story. Now with the idiotic feature of NOT being able to enter opposing faction land confirmed the entire aspect to make your own story is blow up, gone. If you cannot go any where and for a game they were stating is going to be focused on exploration and not having the ability to do so this is a game breaker. IM AMAZED no one has created a petition to get this fixed as i see many other out there asking for a seamless world like its the biggest issue this game has....

Shur u got a PvP area but where is the thrill of being where your not suppose to? I for one loved going on the opposing faction land and killing the enemy on there own land in many other mmos. To me this feature might just stop many from even looking at ESO. I for one have now given it a second look and im on a ledge on wither of not i want to get it now...cuz they have taken out a much needed aspect of ANY MMO game....exploration....

can i have your stuff ?

» Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:51 am

You're right, I couldn't care less about PvP. The factions and their motives are too unlikely for me to care about anyway.

So you used to most common PvP>PvE insult at everyone who disagrees?

» Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:08 am

I like how you call it carebear because it doesn't fit your definition.
I think you're a carebear because you whine and can't let things go since we're all using our personal definitions ^^

And you are being insecure and a hypcrite because you keep whining about the whiners since we're now resorting to personal insults.

So you used to most common PvP&--#62;PvE insult at everyone who disagrees?

Please rephrase the question.

» Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:05 am

it doesn't make any sense to have only three provinces available when you could have all the nine provinces. So much wasted potential.

/sigh.....no sense ?

1. No PvP ganking
2. No..hey there goes an orc in my town, though he knows were in open war with them
3. Will most likely take you forever to explore whats in your own region anyways.
4. QQ...whaaaa there will be borders...i want to go around the world and end up back where i started..else its immersion breaking....yezz

» Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:10 pm

You can't really get angry about it until you see what it's like. I want to know how exactly you are locked away from there. I will be pretty pissed off if there's just some sort of invisible wall locking you from moving through there. Hopefully there are lots of guard posts and walls to stop you getting into the zone, and you can try to get through but get attacked and killed before too long. If it is handled like that I won't mind so much.

Also have they said if there's PVE quests etc in Cyrodiil? Because given that that zone is apparently huge there will still be plenty of world PVP to be had in there I'm guessing...

As much as I love world PVP, I did find myself not doing it a whole heap in WoW so it is not a deal breaker. I would occasionally pop into an alliance zone, kill a few people and that's it. Hopefully in expansions there will be a way to raid the opposing factions main cities and the zones get opened up!

» Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:30 pm

Again, as I said, immersion breaking.

Edit: In response to NicVentura

» Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:01 am

Again, as I said, immersion breaking.

Edit: In response to NicVentura

Let me edit this for you:

Again, as I said, immersion breaking in my OPINION.

Just wanted to clarify that for others.

» Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:08 pm

And you are being insecure and a hypcrite because you keep whining about the whiners since we're now resorting to personal insults.

I can't be insecure because I have no relevance to the conversation and just now joined it. Your statement is illogical. I didn't need to join. Also, I am whining about whiners, and I'll admit it.

Still doesn't change your constant t complaining and disappointment you have. We get it, you hate faction locks. You say it every thread you go into.

» Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:23 pm

Again, as I said, immersion breaking.

Edit: In response to NicVentura

So your mortal enemy waving at you in a starting zone is not ?

» Sat Mar 09, 2013 2:55 am

Please rephrase the question.

It was a statement more than a question.

But we all know that carebear is what PvPers call PvEers who don't like it when PvPers turn up and kill them all the time. Using that term tells us that you are one of those PvPers and you cover that fact up by claiming immersion and not wanting factions to be locked, but really you just want to be able to kill people.

» Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:04 am

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» Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:54 am

I for one have now lost complete intrest in ESO. I was pumped and was soo ready for ESO...after reading all the great features i came across one game breaking feature that IMO is why ppl play MMO's for, the abillity to create your story. Now with the idiotic feature of NOT being able to enter opposing faction land confirmed the entire aspect to make your own story is blow up, gone. If you cannot go any where and for a game they were stating is going to be focused on exploration and not having the ability to do so this is a game breaker. IM AMAZED no one has created a petition to get this fixed as i see many other out there asking for a seamless world like its the biggest issue this game has....

Shur u got a PvP area but where is the thrill of being where your not suppose to? I for one loved going on the opposing faction land and killing the enemy on there own land in many other mmos. To me this feature might just stop many from even looking at ESO. I for one have now given it a second look and im on a ledge on wither of not i want to get it now...cuz they have taken out a much needed aspect of ANY MMO game....exploration....

<3 Trolls
He/she even created a account to tell us how much he/she is not interested in TSE:O

» Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:56 am

So your mortal enemy waving at you in a starting zone is not ?

Pfft don't be silly, of course it's not! It's not like we didn't have a bunch of English chaps sitting on over in the flower fields of Germany enjoying a nice picnic with the German high command during the world wars, anyone who thinks seeing your enemy in your own home province far from the war is immersion breaking is crazzzyyyy dude!

(hard to type with a straight face -.-)

» Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:00 am

Pfft don't be silly, of course it's not! It's not like we didn't have a bunch of English chaps sitting on over in the flower fields of Germany enjoying a nice picnic with the German high command during the world wars, anyone who thinks seeing your enemy in your own home province far from the war is immersion breaking is crazzzyyyy dude!

(hard to type with a straight face -.-)

LOL'ed....quote of the day....."ey govner...is that mister Hitler...should we go kill him...nahh...lets have Tee and spotted dike first"

» Fri Mar 08, 2013 6:50 pm

Again, as I said, immersion breaking in my OPINION.

Really now, this much is a given. Just like you don't think it will.

So your mortal enemy waving at you in a starting zone is not ?

No because Cyrodiil would still be THE PvP zone. As I said, don't care much about these improbable factions.

I can't be insecure because I have no relevance to the conversation and just now joined it.

But your opinion on the matter is already known. But I'm glad you admit it. I myself is a pessimist.

It was a statement more than a question.

But we all know that carebear is what PvPers call PvEers who don't like it when PvPers turn up and kill them all the time. Using that term tells us that you are one of those PvPers and you cover that fact up by claiming immersion and not wanting factions to be locked, but really you just want to be able to kill people.

If it was a statement, then you shouldn't have ended the sentence with an '?'. But I can assure you that being forced to be part of a faction makes the only people I wanna kill my own.

» Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:43 pm

If it was a statement, then you shouldn't have ended the sentence with an '?'. But I can assure you that being forced to be part of a faction makes the only people I wanna kill my own.

You are not forced to be part of a faction, you get a choice of 3 factions. In Skyrim you only get a choice of 2, did you complain how that broke the immersion?

However I can see this thread getting away from the topic and becoming about you, so this is probably my last post here, I will try not to rise to it elsewhere. We will just have to agree to disagree. But really you should make peace with the way the game is if you want to try and enjoy it.

» Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:20 am

No, but it is immersion breaking.

It depends how it's implemented. Guard towers, walls etc and getting killed if you tried to enter would actually increase immersion. If it's an invisible wall that says you're the wrong faction and doesn't even let you try cross, it's going to svck.

» Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:25 pm

You are not forced to be part of a faction, you get a choice of 3 factions. In Skyrim you only get a choice of 2, did you complain how that broke the immersion?

Yes, except that you didn't have to join either of those in Skyrim.

Pointless comparison.

» Fri Mar 08, 2013 7:42 pm

You are not forced to be part of a faction, you get a choice of 3 factions. In Skyrim you only get a choice of 2, did you complain how that broke the immersion?

No, because I was allowed to stay neutral.
I'd be more lenient with the whole 'this race can only join that faction' if staying neutral meant I got to explore the continent with one character.

It depends how it's implemented. Guard towers, walls etc and getting killed if you tried to enter would actually increase immersion. If it's an invisible wall that says you're the wrong faction and doesn't even let you try cross, it's going to svck.

I'm leaning more toward there being "natural" hindrances such as mountain, canyons, impassable forests, etc, with the occasional border guard.
It'd still svck not being able to venture further but everything's better than invisible borders, yeah.

» Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:35 am

A PETITION ...

This starts getting hilarious to be honest. People cry about the game while the didn't even test it. You should wait until you get ... "mature" (can you even say this in this context?) for new game releases ...

» Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:27 pm

Remember:

Mega-Server -> 100.000 people online at same time in same server. -> Hey, lets go to Arathi, ops, Riverwood GANK the newbs! -> Large Scale War - > Low-level "newbs" quiting after 2 hours of struglle do get 1 quest done.

Want pvp? Go to Cyrodil.
Want Exploratoin? -> Make 3 characters.

The devs won't ruin the game for the majority of the people just so you can have fun.

Blizzard did this in Cataclysm, and they lost 3 million subscribers, just about 25% of all their players.

» Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:20 am

Yes, except that you didn't have to join either of those in Skyrim.

Pointless comparison.

You still can't join anything else, so no joining the Thalmor for example. That didn't break my immersion.