New Morrowind Lore

Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:05 am

It's not Stormcloak bias so much as it's Pro-Dunmer.

Most Dunmer really couldn't give two [censored] if Ulfric wins or the lolEmpire wins.

What matters is that the Dunmer are now independent and have shaken off the oppression of the Empire. We're rebuilding, and almost back to our old strength. Blacklight and the Great houses are even sending small bands of warriors and battle-mages into the countryside to retake their land from the few remaining lizards. Then they're resettling that same newly recaptured land.

So... Stormcloak? No. Dunmer? Yes.

This.

This is precisely why there were grievances between the Gray Quarter and Ulfric Stormcloak in the first place. The Dunmer claimed that it was a war that they had no business being involved in, which I think is likely due to the fact that they disliked either faction. That and the fact that the reasons for the civil war were irrelevant to the Dunmer in the first place. This angered Ulfric as he felt that if they wanted to live in Windhelm, they needed to do more than stay neutral in the fight. However, I must admit that I suspect there was more to it than that given his treatment of the Argonians as well. Regardless, to the extent that Dunmer living in the Gray Quarter did favor the Empire, it was merely because the Empire would make their lives more tolerable in Windhelm. I suppose you have to make due with what is available to you.

I like that they went this direction with my favorite race. It especially makes my main character more interesting as I decided to side with the Empire for the sake of making the lives of the Dunmer living in Skyrim more tolerable. However, I made sure I got our revenge first when I took out Titus Mede II. :biggrin:
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Post » Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:25 pm

I thought hlaalu still existed but had no presence on solsliem but they still had a presence on the mainland

That's what I said. :D

Looks like Dagoth Ur got his wish. No more Empire in Morrowind and the Tribunal is gone.

True that.
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Post » Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:00 pm

Looks like Dagoth Ur got his wish. No more Empire in Morrowind and the Tribunal is gone.
yeah, if it wasnt for the blight he wouldnt be such a bad guy.
him using ahkulakan is no more blasphemous than tiber using numidium. ruthless means of taking power.
we could have had a dunmer emperor :)
or chimer i guess...because he is that old.
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Post » Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:01 pm

So the Southern part of the Island is pretty ash filled and barren looking...... Can you Imagine what Morrowind must look like?
The same? ;3
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Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:20 am

I don't remember them saying anywhere that hlaalu wasn't a great house anymore they simply said that the hlaalu house in solsliem is no longer there which makes sense because redoran runs the island
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Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:00 am

I don't remember them saying anywhere that hlaalu wasn't a great house anymore they simply said that the hlaalu house in solsliem is no longer there which makes sense because redoran runs the island

No, the questline for the house in Raven Rock makes it clear Hlaalu no longer has a seat on the great council.
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Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:01 am

No, the questline for the house in Raven Rock makes it clear Hlaalu no longer has a seat on the great council.

Merari speaks the truth. Adril Arano himself states that they were dismissed from the Great Council.
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Post » Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:09 pm

My bad I must have missed that I wished we could have sided with the hlaalu spies and morang tong but in typical skyrim fashion we had no choice
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Post » Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:41 pm

Ugghhh Hlaalu :( as long as they still use their architecture I'll be okay. It's the most plain architecture in Morrowind, but it has charm to it.
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Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:55 am

My bad I must have missed that I wished we could have sided with the hlaalu spies and morang tong but in typical skyrim fashion we had no choice

No problem. I missed it myself until I just played through that quest for the second time. Had to do so because of vampire dialogue glitches. :dry: Not sure why minor problems like these irk me, but they kill my immersion. I hate that no one will recognize me as Dunmer because of vampirism.
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Post » Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:02 pm

I don't remember them saying anywhere that hlaalu wasn't a great house anymore they simply said that the hlaalu house in solsliem is no longer there which makes sense because redoran runs the island
Also when you ask about the Great Houses the Second Councilor names the houses on the Council, Hlaalu isn't among them. They were seen as the Empire's lapdogs, they prospered under Empire rule but then Morrowind was taken out of the Empire Hlaalu found it self weakened, and no longer a Great House.
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Post » Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:52 pm

Has anyone encountered any mention of Helseth? House Hlaalu may have been kicked to the curb but I refuse to believe that he would go without a fight.
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Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:29 am

wouldn't be surprised if the house ate a Sax spear to the face during the invasion.
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Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 3:39 am

Is Morrowind truly independent? Last I read in Lore the Argonians had invaded and (in the southern regions at least) presumably conquered it. Is that still the case? Or did they just come in, take out their anger on the Telvanni and leave?

I hope they're gone because nothing makes me angrier than the thought of my Dunmer people living under the yoke of those FILTHY LIZARDS :tongue:
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Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:05 am

Has anyone encountered any mention of Helseth? House Hlaalu may have been kicked to the curb but I refuse to believe that he would go without a fight.

Last I heard he was killed by the Nerevarine for his sweet ring ;)
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Post » Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:38 pm

Last I heard he was killed by the Nerevarine for his sweet ring :wink:

He's alive during Oblivion.
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Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:45 am

He's alive during Oblivion.

Well yeah, my Nerevarine killed him afterwards. I waited til he abolished slavery :P
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Post » Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:50 pm

Well yeah, my Nerevarine killed him afterwards. I waited til he abolished slavery :tongue:

I thought you were busy making Tosh Raka into a new pair of dragon boots?

I hear they sell for quite a lot you know. Especially when they're made from the skin of a Dragon god.
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Post » Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:09 pm

i wonder what house sadras is all about.
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Post » Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:26 pm

I thought you were busy making Tosh Raka into a new pair of dragon boots?

I hear they sell for quite a lot you know. Especially when they're made from the skin of a Dragon god.

I didn't have to get into the dragon boots biz w/ the royal signet ring. I just swam to Akavir and made it my own realm.
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Post » Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:50 pm

Hm, any mention of how the Ashlander tribes faired during the Red Year?

I ask because my Nerevarine character was very close to the Ashlanders, and i'm using their death when Red Mountain blew as emotional enforcement for why they never returned to Morrowind after the Oblivion Crises and until Dragonborn in Skyrim.

If they all lived happily ever after, that sort of messes us that plot point for my character. I assumed they were all dead after the books and what the few Dunmer in Skyrim had to say.

I know there are ashlanders back on Vvardenfell as of Dragonborn, before anyone points it out, but i'm talking about the Ashlanders that direct the Nerevarine in Morrowind.
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Post » Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:03 am

So House Indoril was in pretty bad shape at the end of the Fourth Era. Other houses targeted them, (Dres and Hlaalu teamed up if I remember correctly) then Mournhold being sacked didn't help things (Given Mournhold was Indoril territory). We find that they are still a Great House and 'alive and well', at least figuratively speaking. The distinction between Indoril and Temple seems have become more blurred (it was already getting that way by the time of Morrowind). Perhaps it is a fair statement to say that House Indoril is the Temple of Reclaimations and vise versa.

Another thing that I picked up on is that Mephala seems to be the 'chief' Daedra of the three Reclaimations, in a similar sense to VIvec being the more prominent of the Tribunal. Granted, this makes sense because Mephala was the anticipation of Vivec in so far as the Tribunal was concerned.


Hm, any mention of how the Ashlander tribes faired during the Red Year?

I ask because my Nerevarine character was very close to the Ashlanders, and i'm using their death when Red Mountain blew as emotional enforcement for why they never returned to Morrowind after the Oblivion Crises and until Dragonborn in Skyrim.

If they all lived happily ever after, that sort of messes us that plot point for my character. I assumed they were all dead after the books and what the few Dunmer in Skyrim had to say.

I know there are ashlanders back on Vvardenfell as of Dragonborn, before anyone points it out, but i'm talking about the Ashlanders that direct the Nerevarine in Morrowind.

Seems like some of them survived, as it was Ashlanders who helped shape the Temple of Reclaimations judging by in-game dialogue.
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Post » Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:39 pm

This thread shall contain usage of the L word that He-Who-Remains so dislikes... :tongue:

Anyway, I figured we could share the things we've picked up so far and our thoughts on them.

Things I've picked up on so far:
*The Capital of Morrowind was moved to Blacklight (which was the capital of the Redoran District), following the sacking of Mournhold.
*House Hlaalu is no longer a Great House and wields no power in Morrowind, but still exists as an entity.
*House Redoran is the pre-eminent house in Morrowind now.
*Apparently House Sadras took Hlaalu's place.
*Morrowind is no longer an Imperial Province.
*Morrowind's relations are in tatters now that House Hlaalu have been ousted. The Dunmer hate the Empire for withdrawing the legions and leaving them defenseless during the Oblivion Crisis (Important for those who need a reason for the Dunmer to join Stormcloaks).

Haven't been to the Telvanni settlement yet, so there's probably a lot more to be found talking to Master Neloth. Finding it all rather interesting thought and it has answered some of the questions I've had rattling around in the ol' thinking box for a while now.

This dlc is so great, so many things in-line with my character. (ex-House Hlalu member)
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