I'm not trying to be racist but....

Post » Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:46 pm

The Redguards are supposed to be the African type race in the game yet the only one voiced by a black person is Nazir (Three Dog's voice actor) All the others have the same voice actors as the Bretons, Nords, and Imperials and even some elves. It just doesn't fit. I know they recycle voice actors. Its just a part of the Elder Scrolls series but I at least wish the ones they do recycle fit the characters like in Oblivion and Morrowind when the Redguards were the black guys not the extremely tanned white guys. Don't get me wrong, I'm not mad or complaining just wondering.

That's racist. Sorry, but it is.

What are you thinking????
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Miranda Taylor
 
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Post » Sat Jul 07, 2012 1:44 am

but hey, at least the Dunmer aren't as bad as they were in Oblivion. Progress!

wha..... :blink:
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Hope Greenhaw
 
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Post » Sat Jul 07, 2012 5:54 am

Actually every province of Tamriel is based on real life countries.

High Rock: a mix of the Celtic and Saxon countries.

Skyrim: a mix of the Scandinavian and Celtic countries.

Morrowind: ???

Hammerfell: Arabian countries.

Cyrodiil: a mix of the Saxon and Mediterranean countries.

Summerset: ???

Valenwood: Endor?

Elsweyr: a mix of Hammerfell and maybe of the Amazon rainforest.

Blackmarsh: Amazon rainforest.

i dont think so ...anyway you couldn't name country's for valenwood or morrowind , in fact you are not saying country's , mearly a mix of environments - i could say my house is like hammerfell because it is hot :P

and by the way , which country's have dragons , magic , an empire and mushroom trees again - not mentioning the various spiritual deities ;)
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Jesus Lopez
 
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Post » Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:57 pm

1. There are White guys who sound black and vice versa. So what?

2. If it starts with "I'm not trying to be racist" then it probably is racist. Does it matter who voices who?

If every race lived up to a skin colour stereotype, that would be way more unrealistic than what we have now.
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Amanda Furtado
 
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Post » Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:39 pm

Meh, it's only the voice actor, you can't honestly expect Bethesda to hire more than like, 20 of them.
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STEVI INQUE
 
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Post » Sat Jul 07, 2012 1:05 am

Have you heard blacks from places such as England?

We don't have blacks in England.
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Your Mum
 
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Post » Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:47 pm

We don't have blacks in England.

black people in england mainly live in built- up areas , in the south-west ( where i live) i think i have seen only a handful of non--whites

( and yes i lived in essix before)

( and no i dont like the only way is essix)
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Post » Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:51 pm

black people in england mainly live in built- up areas , in the south-west ( where i live) i think i have seen only a handful of non--whites

( and yes i lived in essix before)

( and no i dont like the only way is essix)

Babes you don't get anymore south west than me, I'm in P-Town. I can see this turning into a huge flame war/racial debate.... Also, never watched that program.
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Post » Sat Jul 07, 2012 2:41 am

Babes you don't get anymore south west than me, I'm in P-Town. I can see this turning into a huge flame war/racial debate.... Also, never watched that program.

"babes" .... im a
guy !!

:cool:
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Post » Sat Jul 07, 2012 4:25 am

"babes" .... im a
guy !!

Not by the time i'm finished with you. Anywho, back on topic......
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Post » Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:17 pm

Not by the time i'm finished with you. Anywho, back on topic......

whats the bet you get banned in three days? :violin:

ill bet my whole life savings! two gold septims!
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Post » Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:52 pm

whats the bet you get banned in three days? :violin:

ill bet my whole life savings! two gold septims!
Never on here on the weekends anyways. Too many trolls on here, people forget humour ( or just don't get mine).
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Post » Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:35 pm

black people in england mainly live in built- up areas , in the south-west ( where i live) i think i have seen only a handful of non--whites

( and yes i lived in essix before)

( and no i dont like the only way is essix)

:facepalm: you can't have ever been to east london then matey boy.
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Post » Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:16 pm

This thread again. As a real life redguard I feel the need to chime in yet again. Redguard are my favourite race, along with altmer, and one reason I always identifiedwith them as a kid was because they were....well like me. Heck, one of the hairstyles in Morrowind looks exactly like a low-res version of my awesome afro-jew-fro (I'm biracial). Yes their culture was inspired by arab and (to a lesser extent) feudal japanese culture as well, but at their essence they were always intended to be africanesque. Look at their concept art and you'll see clear references to african culture, motifs, dress, weapons, and even references to famous african civilizations like the Zulu. Michael Kirkbride, the man who wrote a great deal of redguard lore, did this on purpose as he knew it was rare for africans to have a place in fantasy stories. The way they were portrayed was so cool because they weren't offensive but they weren't overly politically correct either. It felt natural. He even gladly admits that Cyrus the Restless is his favourite character along with his other brainchild Vivec. Ever since the video game "Redguard" when elder scrolls lore was coming into its own and the characters were first given full voices, the redguards had a clearly african american voice-actor. I didn't find it offensive or unrealistic. I loved it. And to those who dont know: yes black people tend to have different voices. It's not a cultural thing or a stereotype. Our vocal cords just tend to be different. When I heard them in Skyrim.....I was pissed. They dont even have their own voice actors? Not even a north african or arab accent (which I would have LOVED)????? Meanwhile, I'm pretty sure ORCS have black voiceactors. What's more offensive? Haha. I felt ripped-off to say the least. They dont even sound TOUGH!!! Come on guys, these are people whose ancestors split atoms with their swords causing suicidal nuclear explosions! They literally turn combat into a science and you give them the wimpiest voice in the game? It aggrivates me to no end hearing them talk!
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Post » Sat Jul 07, 2012 4:45 am

They're Arabian/Moorish.
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Post » Sat Jul 07, 2012 6:01 am

Have you heard blacks from places such as England?

They sound nothing like the sterotype you have in your mind of what they should sound like.

The American language and style the use is not universal.
This. When I watched Doctor Who and Misfits. The black actors sounded just like the white ones. Lets say I first watched those shows and I had my eyes closed the whole time. I would have no idea what color skin the person who is talking has.
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Post » Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:52 pm

We don't have blacks in England.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-jEifob8STGQ/TpqGZ8cYanI/AAAAAAAAOMs/h80LtBrC6A0/s1600/misfits-season-3.jpg http://images.wikia.com/tardis/images/3/38/RoseMickey.PNG
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Post » Fri Jul 06, 2012 6:35 pm

Kratos is voiced by a black guy, this is not racist - just a great voice actor and thats all that matters.
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Post » Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:04 pm

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-jEifob8STGQ/TpqGZ8cYanI/AAAAAAAAOMs/h80LtBrC6A0/s1600/misfits-season-3.jpg http://images.wikia.com/tardis/images/3/38/RoseMickey.PNG

Yeah, but everyone knows London isn't in England as not a single white man lives there anymore, and it's all tourists and immigrants. As for the second picture, i don't know what it's from.
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Post » Sat Jul 07, 2012 4:54 am

Yeah, but everyone knows London isn't in England as not a single white man lives there anymore, and it's all tourists and immigrants. As for the second picture, i don't know what it's from.
Doctor Who.
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Post » Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:39 pm

Doctor Who.

Wait, how old are you?
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Post » Sat Jul 07, 2012 4:48 am

:facepalm: you can't have ever been to east london then matey boy.

well i did say built up areas
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Post » Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:57 pm

Never on here on the weekends anyways. Too many trolls on here, people forget humour ( or just don't get mine).

and you dont understand in-game quotes ;)
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