... is it fair to hope that we will also have volkihar vampires breaking out?
Please?
Pretty please?

Anyone explain what does it means ?

I don't know about the Vlokhair but im definatly hoping for under water bosses and combat now.

There's got to be underwater combat if dragons can dive into lakes.. Otherwise I foresee heavily bugged dragon fights where they just remain trapped under the lake and you end up being unable to kill them and complete certain quests.

Volkihar is a vampire clan in Skyrim. According to the ingame book, they are able to reach out of the ice and drag people under.

In lore, Volkihar vampires were described as having the ability to break through from under the ice of lakes to attack unsuspecting prey.

The Volkihars we got in Skyrim were basically powered-up regular vampires.
Now we know that the engine is capacle of allowing dragons to break ice, is it fair to assume that the Volkihar's ice smashing feature will make an appearance?

They didn't actually smash the ice though. The reached through it without breaking it. That would be harder to implement I think. They could just make them smash the ice and say the reaching through it without cracking it was an exaggeration. Would be pretty cool.

Fighting vampires under water that's something i want to avoid.

We won't necessarily be doing that - you'd be fighting on terra firma, but the vampires would be able to surprise you.

Volikhars...They dont "break through" the ice, they phase through it.

Ehhh... you get the jist. Lore is hazy.

Np lore isn't law per say...kinda

Yeah you could just say the phasing throught the ice was an exaggeration and that they did actually smash through it. Or perhaps they've mutated over the years, lot's of explanations.

nope.

we can only hope that the glitches induced with this new "feature" aren't too extensive. expect reports shortly after release about Elder Dragons getting "stuck" in the lake after submerging and never coming out along with dragons that no-clip through the ground like it's nothing, even if there's no open body of water nearby.

I hope so unless they don't smash it right under you.

I don't see how "phase through" is an exaggeration of "breaking" when the two are totally different things. People didn't exaggerate dragons breathing fire and flying. Its not like dragons just kinda roar and a few sparks come out or something and its not like they just jump really far without flapping their wings or something...

In the words of Buzz Lightyear "This isn't flying! Its falling--with style."

People will call it what it is. Granted if you're terrified your eyes might betray you, but there is a distinctly noticeable difference between SMASHING something and "phasing" through it. You have to remember the people of TES are used to ghosts and things too, so its not like they're totally unfamiliar with the concept of incorporeal form.

End notes: Falling is falling. Flying is flying. Walking through walls is walking through them, whereas smashing or breaking them down is different.


Also, I could see phasing through ice as being an easy thing to program. Simply give any obstacles made of ice the "ice" condition and have it so that any vampire enemy type doesn't count obstacles with the ice condition as an obstacle. Hell, NPCs glitch inside of floors, walls, doors, and ceilings often enough they could probably do it on purpose if they tried.

The only account we have is of one man. One fallible man. Even then, it could have been lost in translation during the writing and printing of the book.

I am a little wary of underwater combat myself.... definently dont need any dragons down there. Hopefully it was just a programmed exit for a dragon.

You're taking the lore a bit too literally there. You really think there's just the ONE book about this? In all the history of Skyrim only ONE man has witnessed this and lived to tell the tale? Surely there are others...but the programmers didn't have time to fill the game with hundreds upon thousands of written documents speculating on a single subject, just like farms which should be miles and miles of hundreds of acres of land stretched out across the countryside are composed of a single vegetable patch....
Think small? No no no...think big.

Think facts. It is a fact that we have only one source on Volkihar's ice-related abilities.

In the beginning of the trailer the vampire lord said you have found our castle implying that it is hard to find so I think they may live under the ice just like the volkihar, or maybe this is the true volkihar!

I get nerd rage when Bethesda breaks the lore so i'd be very happy if they were the Volkihar.

Dragon see Dragonborn... Dragon dives underwater...
He would be real pissed if the Dragonborn dived in after him.

This makes me wonder if the dragon diving under the ice is also the one you control with the shout? Is this dragon helping the Dragonborn fight the vampires, or is it just hunting?

I think the dragon was helping dragon born find the vampire lords castle under the ice.