The point is WHY would they lie? What would be a logical reason? Many PS3 users are having problems. Just because you are having fun with your three (charactors) characters* doesn't mean that everyone else is. I don't know how many times that has been repeated in this freaking forum. Yet people still don't get it. Makes no sense.


Meh, to be honest I highly doubt the Japanese would release a broken game with the magnitude that Skyrim had ESPECIALLY on the PS3 their BnB. They take their QA/QC seriously.

i am guessing he is not a ps3 player after all, since he said 'you' ps3 players.

Look at SE.... they issued a formal apology letter after they released that travesty to gaming called FFXIV.... and we have to fight to even get 2 words from someone who actually works at beth, not just mods their forums... Japanese companies dont [censored] around like NA companies do.

I don't care how big 1.4 is going to be. As long it fixes most, if not all, of the problems we're having in the game then we're satisfied....but not enough.

Nope, I'm playin on an second gen 80 gig fat, and on a three week old 160 gig slim PS3. What I meant by "You" is the person was refering that all PS3 players have shelved the game, when that just isn't true. The Majority have not. I for one, started 11,11,11. Then when patch 1.3 hit I uninstaled everthing and started fresh with both PS3 consoles. I notcied a huge differance.

Haha, yeah. I swear if Todd or someone who is ACTUALLY WORKING ON THE GAME. Came in and said something on occasion, then a lot of air would be clear. (Eve online style)

Double post, sorry on my droid.

THE GAME IS UNPLAYABLE IN PS3 PERIOD... Unless you want to go take a bath and come back, play 5 -10 minutes then lag or freezes, go eat (30 min ) come back continue playing another 15min (freeze again) go see a tv show, come back play again, start killing a dragon put a video on youtube while you fight cause swinging a sword may take 3 minutes.. You get the point do you???

I LOVE THE GAME - HATE THE BUGS AND LAGS....

I am writing this after waiting 15 minutes while I was riding a horse and the game froze and suddenly people appeared beside me in the game walking.
Ohhh and that was after a 2 min freeze... WTF!!!
Really I dont know if hate the game or work around it cause its a nice game...(great if it didnt have the lags)

By the way... I just started to play 3 days ago... and just got my second shout... (YES 3 DAYS FOR SOMETHING THAT COULD HAVE TAKE ME 5 - 8 HOURS)

now, 1.3 patch was never supposed to issue the lag in the first place...so if you are saying that the patch solved the issue for you then i cannot believe that...also i dont think that sites like ign and kotaku would publish articles asking bethesda to answer the lag issue if the majority of the players were not experiencing this, trust me they dont want to get into a tussle with a big developer...also the fact that beth intentionally delayed their ps3 review copies as they knew that this problem existed...go to metacritic, skyrim had 24 meta reviews for the ps3 two days after its release, it now has just 13, reviewers have taken back their reviews...all this IS ENOUGH TO PROVE THAT ITS NOT A PROBLEM FACED BY A MINORITY OF USERS, i am happy you have not faced any issues but millions of others have serious issues with this.

Neither side can claim a majority has done anything... unless you guys have gone out there and asked enough people who bought the game to get 51% of the answers for one side... which i doubt you have.

It has been repeated because cause a few have problems so they think that the majority does. So i'd say it's been repeated about the same amount of times as that. The problems are happening to a minority, and only under certain conditions, but people with the issues are trying to make it sound worse than it is, and that EVERY PS3 is having the issues. This is NOT true at all. They did it with Fallout series as well. A few web articles blowing the entire situation out of order then the world thinks that everyone on PS3 has problems.

Everyone I know that has brought this game are having terrible performance issues after more than 25 hours...on the other end, my buddy who plays on xbox is enjoying himself, a couple of freezes but nothing game breaking...not to mention, the German version of skyrim on the ps3 is the worst.

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1322979-are-there-more-problems-with-one-region-version-of-the-game-or-another/

I doubt the japanese would've made us wait till next year for the 1.4 patch considering how much hinges on it. They would likely have stayed in the studio till it was finished and would not have released previous patches that didn't resolve the game stopping issues.

Fix that other stuff later. Fix the game stopping issues first.

Don't even get me started on FO3. Please.

Sigh, the problem is that not everyone is even reporting the issues. So yeah, the ones reporting problems are the minority. I'm pretty sure not every PS3 user has an SSD installed into their PS3. So if that's not the case what makes our PS3's any different from eachother and how the game runs? On a closed system like the PS3. Aside from the software issue.

ARE YOU SERIOUS????
NOT EVERYONE IS REPORTING ISSUES ON PS3???
MAKE A GOOGLE SEARCH:
Skyrim lag on ps3
1,630,000 results (0.16 seconds)

Or better make a search for: Skyrim lag
13,500,000 results (0.11 seconds)

now tell me no one knows...

Not enough people are speaking up the right way. Just saying, "THE GAME IS BROKEN [censored] BETHESDA ROAR ROAR" isn't going to help.

i really dont know why people who have no problems with game lurk around on the hardware and software issues subforum, please DO NOT GIVE PETE HINES ANOTHER CHANCE TO SAY THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE FOR THE MINORITY...PLEASE.

@http://www.gamesas.com/user/370056-zidane-tribal/ Did beth give you a valid response after you gave them you save file?? i mean anything except the lame 'your save file is corrupted'??

Man, what an embarrassment this mess has become. This will turn out to be a black eye for all western developers as far as Japan is concerned. With as much work as obviously went into the content of this game, it's such a shame they couldn't take the time to actually polish it.

Don't know if Moshe is trolling...

or just ignorant...

Trust me I'm with you on this. But just as Zidane said. Not enough people are doing it the correct way. I'm not saying no one knows, haha. This is worldwide now.

As far as I'm concerned, the people claiming the game runs fine for them, have as much credibility as the people claiming the draw distance is lowering with every patch.

Anyone who's invested sufficient time into the game knows its broken, gaming websites know, Bethesda knows, they knew before they released the game. They claimed they had the game running 24/7 on with scripts so bots would go out and do random things.

There is no way they had a development PS3, or stock PS3 running the game and didn't come back to find either: frozen game, or a choppy mess of a framerate.
Especially running the game day and night with auto-save on, and none of the released patches.

Keep reading through the PC forum, there are some good threads in there with a lot of information about the specifics of the game and why it runs so poorly in general. One user made a mod for PC, which increased the performance by simply going back through the code and manually implementing an optimization, that's supposed to be done automatically when you're compiling. It's literally the difference between ticking off an option for some specific optimizations. This is for PC only of course, but you can imagine how befuddled the more technically savvy programmers were to discover this was the case.

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1321675-how-can-skyrim-be-so-unoptimized-modders-do-better-job-than-bethesda/


That's how inept Bethesda truly is.

The only real explanation I can GUESS at, is that they focused and developed mainly for the Xbox, and then ported to the PC (which is simple) and then shoved the code over onto PS3. The game was built from the ground up, and layered on top of an old ass game engine, that does NOT work well on the PS3's hardware. do you think they went and re-wrote everything for the PS3? lol

They probably had programmers and contractors all working separately, on each "port" and after the release, they get rid of these people (because they're purpose and contract was over) After release, they have a meager few guys, left, who probably specifically didn't work on ALL 3 platforms, during development, who are now digging through code, and know as much about the game on PS3 as we have discovered, by reading the PC Sub forum.

Why do you guys think that after 3 patches, none of the OBVIOUS and EASY fixes were implemented with the time resetting areas/cells (the main issue with Save bloat)? Because the guys working on the "patches" are completely oblivious to them. They will keep tinkering with the way the game loads or streams textures, and other simple fixes that are obvious to them, without ever discovering and fixing the real issues. While using the entire PC subforum as beta testers to find bugs, because they couldn't seem to make a game that runs as intended. Games being broken is the new norm.


Anyways, if you have a stock PS3, and are running Skyrim, you run into these issues, it's not a "minority" thing anymore. A great majority of people who bought the game haven't pushed the game to its "limits", or played passed 20 hours. Some never will. and its these people that are considered the majority. If you haven't found a bug yet, then it doesn't exist! I love that logic.

I may be completely wrong of course, and Bethesda might release the 1.4 patch which fixes everything and that'd show ME and all the other pessimistic naysayers... right.... right?

lol

It's actually astonishing that Japanese Amazon's star rating has tumbled so far and so soon after release. I mean we're still struggling to get Metacritic below 5! Claiming the Japanese are doing this for ulterior motives is the height of naiveity.

Game's running good on my PS3. What would you guys label me as? A troll or just an ignorant boy?