im lucky i live in Austrlalia no one would bother to nuke us and if they did we could just run for the hills (or the centre of our dust bowl) considering Austrlalia is almost the size of the US
man weve been payed to be nuked lol

There is kinda a underground city in Montreal but not like you are thinking. They pretty much just built overtop of the old city. Its only in a museum that you can go to the old city. This is not for any nuclear war idea and if a nuke hit Montreal nobody would try to hide in the old city I think.

There are lots of cases of underground cities, mostly in Europe, so it is possible, its just not usually something that ever happens intentionally from a master plan

Well the Parisians could hide in their Catacombs, but they've already lost

Actually China invades Alaska for its reserves of petrol and uranium, then America atacks using its T-I51s and begins to push into mainland China and the Chinese launched.

Also if you listen to MARGoT in the Presidential Metro it says that a meeting with the Chinese Ambassador was canceled, alluding to a massive pearl harbor like scenaroy.

The U.S. werent the aggresors, but if you watch the intor to Fallout 1 the U.S. led a particularly nasty occupation of Canada.

And the BoS really has no true claim to official power, its a bunch of reservests descendants, the Enclave would still technically be in charge. Which brings up the arguement you are alluded to in Stealing Independence, the Enclave is much like the King of Britian before the Americans revolted. He was techincally the legitamete ruler but he didnt represent the people consent much like President Eden.

The Three Rivers got irradiated, but there were no nukes dropped.

Yes, lets give NK Nukes. idiot

Don't they have enough?

They were testing some about two months ago.

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You a zoomie? If so, you should know better.

If you could penetrate a warhead 200' in compact dirt, please let me know. There is an open RFP with DARPA we can both profit from.

As for some of the other comments, it wasn't at SAC, it was at NORAD. It wasn't a signal; it was a bad test procedure. It got as far as flushing a few wings. They used to do that a several times a month anyway. however, it did have the effect of increasing systems budget for NORAD/SPACECOM.

Stone and marble is pretty resilient to overpressure. It think many of you would be surprised how well DC would handle a multi-warhead strike on it. That said, I would expect the crater at the White House to be much, much bigger, since I suspect there would have been many ground bursts targeted for that point.

No tactical nukes would have been used in this war. It would have been over long before that. Assuming a 50s/60s type profile for the weapons, the warheads would have been very high yield and quite dirty, most of which delivered by bombers. In a more modern America, the vast majority would have been sub-megaton bombs placed by missiles.

A radioactive plume would do little to disrupt communication to nuclear forces, which would be primarily by super-/ultra-high frequency with birds (DSCSII/III or later Milstar) or ELF.

Fascinating!

I don't think it's the radiation or the bombs that would kill most humans on the planet, but rather starvation and disease.

With an actual all-out nuclear war, the most devistating effect long-term to the population would be the complete disruption of global trade. Forget over-pressure, lets talk about all food shipments to hungry countries stopping. Lets talk about no new harvest for years after the war, no sanitation anywhere. Death by radiation and nuclear fire would pale compared to the billions that would starve in the aftermath. I rather think the Ghoul in Underworld had a good description of how terrible humanity became in the weeks and months after the war, and thats when most people would wish they had died instantly.

However 200 years after the war, the world would be far-greener than the game portraits, and there is absolutely nothing a nuclear war could do to stop rain from falling - end of story. So in the fictional-world of Fallout, it's safe to say that everyplace looks about the same - what the 1950's America evnisioned as a post-apocalyptic world. If you stray too-far into the real facts, it falls apart.

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That is correct. Strangely, that has been true for all major wars in most of human history. You definitely have the right idea.

Farming would be a bit more resilient than you portray, but the problem isn't growing the corn stalks. It's them turning into cheesy poofs and moving it to urban centers.

Discussion of present political controversies is out of order: forum rule against politics. I'm going to delete or edit some posts. Next time I'll have to close the thread.

I know this is sightly off topic but...


If all these major cities got hit...what would have happened to New York...I haven't seen anything about what happened there. Did Ghouls take over, are there any Vaults up there. Would they have gotten hit directly or just the left over radiation turned the place into a writhing house of horrors.

Pollutants mixed with massive radiation moving in from three heavily irradiated rivers. So it has much more "unique" problems, such as Trogdlyte Degeneration.

Being the most populated city in America, I imagine it was a priority target. It would be reduced to a glass crater, but due to fallout SCIENCE! it is most likely ruins a la D.C. but more destroyed.