Yes.. but the overlining feature of it all is simplicity. The main issue defining the consoles from the pc is the UI, and that UI is worked around the console pad, its simplified for the console pad. The main problem 99% of PC players have with the interface is a direct result of the simplification. There is not the over-complicated navigation options that PC's can cope with due to having a direct input device, say for example, going straight to a button labled "armor" in a list of choices. Instead you have to scroll through them. Its things like this that are causing the problems.i don't get this last part what exactly is different? u pres tab u get this list of choice (instead of it being at the bottum of the window its displayed in a web then u pres items then u see a list with items that are in your invetory in oblivion u could sort them to armor and stuff in the bottum in skyrim its on the left i really dont see the difference

Could bethesda have improved this for the PC? Yes. No doubt
Is it worth their time?... obviously not.how about u get a couple of friends and try to do better hmm? see how far u get

The markets failing for the pc, it has been for years, PC gamers are now a niche, and everytime someone points it out someone drags some statistics up from somewhere, which always fail under scruitiny as the same sites they pull the statistics off, show that console users are almost double if not tripple the amount. Skyrim has been marketed as a console game, the PC version is a console port, thats how theyve made the game thats how they want the game to be percieved.

Consoles are trying to be what PC's have always been and when consoles get to the point where they're just as good as PC's, THEY'LL BE PC's.

Yes, the way it used to be. Back when PC games were great. When the Atari and Nintendos of the world were meant for the kiddies while the grownups played PC games. I will gladly welcome a return to those times.

Although, console players shouldn't delude themselves into thinking "consoles are the future", because their not.

Look at PS3 and 360 now. Youtube, Netflix, Facebook, webbrowsers, etc.

Consoles are trying to be what PC's have always been and when consoles get to the point where they're just as good as PC's, THEY'LL BE PC's.

So we win either way.

There it is, the iconic and annoying Xbox360 fan boy kid who thinks his console is the best, and never played Morrowind, where we could easely see every items with had in our inventory.
don't have any consoles only a pc, i did play morrowind and i hate that inventory A LOT so gtfo?



Though, in the game, the item viewer is pretty fun...

Now I played Oblvion on console so correct if i'm wrong but I thought the general thought on the PC interface was terrible also. FYI laterns weren't usable in oblivion, torches were like they're now.

Hi everyone and Hi Malakie,

I am really enjoying Skyrim so far, the game is beautifu, the quests seem ok and the main one interesting.
But guess what? I do agree with Malakie. The interface is horrid. You can NOT even see your character when entering your inventory and while choosing Clothes, Weapons or Armor. And that I have to say svck...true but that doesn't bother me so much now i can see every piece of armor from all angels

The "Favorite" system is NOT ergonomic at all and everyone who says the contrary is either a lier or an enthousiast (maybe both hahahaha). its fine and nice middle of a fight health low? pres q choose a pot, need to change tactics and weapons? pres q select your equipment

Malakie is right there are plenty of objects you CAN not interact with...lantern is one of those but not even all boxes / cases can be open...I can live with this but let's face it this is a step back (vs. Oblivion at least) do u loot EVERY SINGLE BOX in oblivion u were able to loot a lot sure BUT most boxes contained CRAP

Also after a 10 hours game the dungeons/mines/caves I have visited seem pretty small. Yes they are beautiful but small or smaller vs. the labyrinthic Ayleid Ruins (someone remember...) saying this makes u look like a fool in my eyes sure oblivion dungeons were biger then some of the dungeons in this game BUT oblivion dungeons were all the same evry room was copied and copied and copied there were olmost no original dungeons in this game they all look different(so far) and thats epic

Finally the mouse in the dialog interface seems fast.
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So before thowing "stones" at posters we should try to be sincere with ourselves. What I describe above are definitely disapointments for me eventhough the beauty of Skyrim, lanscape, amors, npc overall atmosphere, music and quests (too early to judge for the quests) seem to win my heart as of Now...We'll see in the future if the game still holds. so far quests are epic

Thankd for reading...my little dragonborns...

don't have any consoles only a pc, i did play morrowind and i hate that inventory A LOT so gtfo?

Consoles are trying to be what PC's have always been and when consoles get to the point where they're just as good as PC's, THEY'LL BE PC's.

The controls are almost identical to Oblivion. The inventory is quite simple to manage, much more so than Oblivion or Morrowind. You're actually complaining about not being able to use a f*cking lantern, really? And the last time I checked, arcade games didn't use CONTROLLERS. Way to be a tool.

Well this 'tool' as you put it used HIS hard earned money to PAY for Bethesda to release this title and many more.. As I said before, using a controller makes games like this feel ARCADE like not RPG AND I never said the inventory was not easy to manage rather it svckED in its display, functionality etc... Have you even played Oblivion?

Tell me how do I manipulate items in my inventory other than a click that allows me to pretty much do nothing? How do I easily setup Hotkeys for changing weapons, spells etc with but a click? How do I USE just about EVERY item like Lanterns and more like Oblivion?

I know I know you are one of those 'Bethesda can do no wrong' and Skyrim is perfect people who cannot see the issues because of blinders.. Fine, but for many of us these issues are unexpected and should not be.. We expected Skyrim to blow us Oblivion players away INCLUDING with the interface. I keep gravitating back to Oblivion because the 'feel' is so much more immersive than Skyrim at this point. Graphically Skyrim is awesome.. But interface and such.. crap crap crap.

Hi everyone and Hi Malakie,

I am really enjoying Skyrim so far, the game is beautifu, the quests seem ok and the main one interesting.
But guess what? I do agree with Malakie. The interface is horrid. You can NOT even see your character when entering your inventory and while choosing Clothes, Weapons or Armor. And that I have to say svck...

The "Favorite" system is NOT ergonomic at all and everyone who says the contrary is either a lier or an enthousiast (maybe both hahahaha).

Malakie is right there are plenty of objects you CAN not interact with...lantern is one of those but not even all boxes / cases can be open...I can live with this but let's face it this is a step back (vs. Oblivion at least)

Also after a 10 hours game the dungeons/mines/caves I have visited seem pretty small. Yes they are beautiful but small or smaller vs. the labyrinthic Ayleid Ruins (someone remember...)

Finally the mouse in the dialog interface seems fast.

So before thowing "stones" at posters we should try to be sincere with ourselves. What I describe above are definitely disapointments for me eventhough the beauty of Skyrim, lanscape, amors, npc overall atmosphere, music and quests (too early to judge for the quests) seem to win my heart as of Now...We'll see in the future if the game still holds.

Thankd for reading...my little dragonborns...

You can NOT even see your character when entering your inventory and while choosing Clothes, Weapons or Armor.

How do I easily setup Hotkeys for changing weapons, spells etc with but a click?

I have just started my Skyrim experience and I must admit I am so far VERY disappointed in the experience. I am an avid Morrowind and Oblivion (especially Oblivion) player and the massive changes to the user interface made in Skyrim, to put it bluntly, just plain svck.

Yea so they want to 'save' money by combining console crap with PC. I get it.. but that does not make it right... NOR give the feel of a quality title. The controls stink, the inventory really svcks big time, I tried using even some basic items like those in Oblivion only to find they can not be used or manipulated.... I.E. Lanterns etc.

I do admit the visuals are stunning and very well done but the user interface really is bad in my opinion and needs to be revamped for PC players. I cannot stand consoles nor console controllers... It makes a game feel like an arcade game no matter what you are playing.. Oblivion and now Skyrim are NOT arcade games... they are full in depth roleplaying experiences that should be delved into in a manner that is not akin to an arcade shoot-em up.

Of course the other two complaints are this steam crap requirement.. I DO NOT HAVE INTERNET ACCESS in my home and cannot yet get it... Had to haul this big ass machine someplace to activate the dam game.. I am tired of devs ASSUMING we all live in the big city and have access...

Finally I am also tired of being a BETA TESTER for these devs. There is NO excuse for some of these bugs right out of the box,,, and I can say it because I AM a coder myself and although no one can find every single little bug without fault, game stopping, game crashing, game lock up bugs are INEXCUSEABLE period. My main code box is a top of the line system with the latest gen everything.. if something hardware wise is released during my code I upgrade that machine to insure full upward and downward compatibililty. I code downwards to insure this while also insuring compatibility and CAPABILITY with the latest gen stuff.

Well that is my rant.. There is much more to do in Skyrim... I only HOPE the storyline and the quests and the RPG element lives up to the Elder Scrolls experience. So far I am not impressed - especially with the crappy interface.

Take it light......
Malakie

I dont know if its different outside of the UK, but have you been to a gaming retailer lately? As all over here... the pc game sections are getting smaller and smaller by the day, infact, Gamestation, our second biggest retailer in the country has stopped selling PC games completely.

I have seen so many unwarranted complaints about the interface. It's okay once you get used to it (I concede, I AM using an Xbox controller).

As far as the caves go.. are you sure they arent as big as the Ayleid ruins? ... without giving anyting away, have you done the winterhold mages guild quests? Or the companion quests? Some of those dungeons alone take a few hours to go through. I think the dungeons , now they are custom created, are alot alot more interesting than the oblivion ones and i know personally, they seem to take alot longer to explore. That however might be due to the amount of things to do and explore within them over actual square footage.

You were expecting Oblivion II: Skyrim. They don't just keep on making the same game with better graphics, you know
TES title has been quite different in gameplay from the one before it

The biggest existential question about the game is :

Why did they changed Fatigue with Stamina?!

For me, this is the best game ever .

You maybe correct about my expectations. By the way I am enjoying Skyrim so far and eventhough there are some disapointments, the game is still winning my heart so far...