only when sneaking. It will most likely be a one hit execution kill.

All the magic perks and alchemy and crafting intrigue me greatly.

"Assassin's Blade
Sneak attacks with daggers now do a total of fifteen times normal damage"

x15 damage? Dear god. Archers only get a x3 bonus. /Rage.

Missed that. Thanks.

I liked the way the OP organized them. It was easy for me to just click on only the ones I wanted to see and not have to sift through everything. If you wanted a list of all you could have just clicked on the original link...

This is first thing, I'm going to mod in Skyrim.

My Rhuja character:

Warrior: One-handed (axes) and/or Archery.
Thief: Most Sneak, ALL Lockpicking, ALL pickpocket, some Alchemy.
Mage: Illusion, Enchanting.

20% this, 50% that. I really wish Beth had put more effort in including technique perks.

Some of these look really useful.

All i know is im going to go with the flow and whatever seems right at the time, accept i will be getting the first one handed perk.

Soul Siphon
Death blows to creatures, but not people, trap 5% of the victim's soul, recharging the weapon

Critical Charge
Ability to do a one-handed power attack while sprinting that does double critical damage

Silent Roll
Sprinting while sneaking executes a silent forward roll

Poisoned
Silently harm enemies by placing poisons in their pocket

Bribery
Can bribe guards to ignore crimes

Mage Armor (3)
Protection spells like Stoneflesh are twice as strong if not wearing armor

I couldn't say yet. Definitely some of the thief ones, for sneak attacks and such. And destruction for my battlemage character. And also one-handed stuff. But specifics? Can't say. Might change on the day, might not. So Boogaloo!!!! Boink!

Archery
Sneak
Alchemy
Smithing
Enchanting
One-handed.

I keep changing my mind on how i'm wanting to play my frist character, and i'm coming to want a "Generalized Adventurer" but I'll be focusing on Block and One Handed as my main combat style. I've always like aggresive offensive shield usage (spartans in 300) using the shield to effectively defend and attack.

Block: however many points in shield charge to access the higher perks, Power Bash and Deady Bash, Deflect Arrows up to Shield Charge. I plan to do a lot of Bashing and Charging, attacking with One Handed Melee when the opponents are staggered.

One Handed: No weapons specializations, no dual wielding, enough points in Armsman to get Fighting Stance, Critcal Charge and Savage Strike.

Smithing: Heavy Side all the way to Dragon. Making all my own gear, as well as enchanting it.

Heavy Armor: enough points in Juggernaut to get Fists of Steel, Cushioned and Conditioning, the rest mainly just increase armor even more, would get if damage intake is an issue, but with as much focus on the shield I'm gonna use, I doubt i'd need all the extra armor, as say a 2h heavy armor user.

Enchanting: Enough Points in Enchanter ?/5 to get Insightful, Corpus and Extra Effect. Unsure of the usefulness of the two Soul Gem perks, will have to play with it.

At that point, depending on how many ranks of the 5/5 perks in all those trees, I'd have spent 29 to 41 perks, meaning i'd be level 30 to 52. More than likely I'll be spending as few points in heavy armor, and the first tier Enchanter 5/5, to which I'd use the remainder of my perks however high I end up leveling my first dude, probably 60+, I'll spend the rest where they feel right....

OP, please add http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1250628-layout-of-perk-trees-2/ to your original post. It has the skill requirements as well as how the trees are formatted. All info you find online about skill trees was taken from the pics in the thread I linked.

This will help people decide better than the info you provided. Not knowing the structure of the tree... you don't know what perks you can really have.

So I take it we can only summon atronachs and zombies now?

They should have focused more on gameplay mechanics, that's the whole reason I thought they were making perks over stats... so you would be gaining many cool abilities, powers, and well perks instead of these long lists of damage/armor buffs :/ straight up damage buffs end up meaning nothing to a game with an elder scrolls style difficulty slider

Ugh.. the problem is if you get a bunch of good buffs to damage and defense, making you a much better number->number fighter than the average enemy (on normal mode) most people will end up pushing the difficulty slider a bit to the right... to bring back actual competitive fighting again since roflestomps are only so much fun for so long, ironically though all you're doing is negating all of the bonuses to dmg and armor you just got threw perks... it's extremely silly.
(oddly enough even if you didn't get the buffs to damage you could act like you did with a small push to the left with the difficulty slider... which, again, makes them all pointless... )

That's my take on the situation :/

i counted and only got 260

No, there are lots of other things to summon

It's 250. Some think the Race Perks are counted towards the 280 number we've all heard... as well as the possibility of reward perks for certain quests... like in FO:3.

then why do i keep on getting 260 ???!!!??? did you count or are you just saying it? (im counting just skills)

Oh good, I just assumed because the perks only mention those two.

Wow, it actually seems like being a Mage won't be pointless anymore. And with any luck there will be some variation to the Destruction spells you cast rather than the same damn noise and the same damn look for all the spells...

never mind i counted again and found i messed up on the smithing perks. i counted them all twice due to the stupid "and improve them twice as much" bit

I read the wiki and my head exploded, I can't wait even more now. I want them all!! So many cool things ...