[naana]

No? If they put this much outrage towards there not being a cure for cancer yet, they could help scientists reach that goal just a little bit faster.

Please, explain this to me, I wanna know how a bunch of gamers rating could help the progress of finding a cure for cancer that hundreds of fundraisers, non-profits, doctors, scientists, and various other people could not...

See the bolded bit.

I've already addressed this. It's a total non sequitur. How do you know they don't spend 90 percent of their time running soup kitchens or volunteering at hospitals or aiding flood victims or whatever.

Then that's their job, isn't it?

You seem to believe that if anyone does anything that doesn't meet your own criteria for worthwhile, and if they do it with any sort of enthusiasm, that this is somehow poor form. That they should instead be contributing this energy towards causes you feel are worthwhile.

Or they could just stop doing the first silly thing. It's cute when the Big Bang Theory team does this kind of stuff -- but then only because they're the punchline.

So why are you on this forum? Why aren't you contributing this time towards worthwhile causes? Or is it acceptable for you to set aside time for things you personally care about, but not okay for others?

I've already covered this.

Are you for real?

*checks*

Yes.

Your whole argument has been, "It upsets me that some people care about stuff that I don't care about."

No, I've been saying they care way too much about something meaningless.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhTiJEYqqY8http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhTiJEYqqY8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhTiJEYqqY8http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhTiJEYqqY8

You really haven't heard that one before? Like, 3000 times before? That wasn't a zinger.

[Emily Graham]

There is an equal chance they would hinder rather than help, either way this is getting off topic, let [censored] be [censored]

Wow fan boy is now censored?

[Melly Angelic]

See the bolded bit.



Then that's their job, isn't it?



Or they could just stop doing the first silly thing. It's cute when the Big Bang Theory team does this kind of stuff -- but then only because they're the punchline.



I've already covered this.



*checks*

Yes.



No, I've been saying they care way too much about something meaningless.



You really haven't heard that one before? Like, 3000 times before? That wasn't a zinger.

Life is not a video game. There is no bar of progress. How the hell could you know if it's going faster? What if we never cure cancer ever before we as a species are extinguished? Good god your so full of yourself. If you think people should be doing stuff gtfo the forums and work to the bone on "real" issues 100% of the time. Only 6 hours of sleep like the military. Go on, lead by example superman. Or are you too busy debating with us on the internet over this oh so serious topic? I mean you do look a little hypocritical and ignorant of how the world works. But sure, why not kid.

Edit
Every frame of time your here is hypocrisy to your chosen statements. The forums have permission to laugh harder the longer they see you here. How does that sound?

[Cash n Class]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhTiJEYqqY8http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhTiJEYqqY8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhTiJEYqqY8http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhTiJEYqqY8

I tried to do that once in school......it got awkward when no one else joined in.

[Danii Brown]

I tried to do that once in school......it got awkward when no one else joined in.

Awww.... you gave it your best at least.

[roxxii lenaghan]

There is an equal chance they would hinder rather than help, either way this is getting off topic, let [censored] be [censored]

Wow fan boy is now censored?

Yes, you're right. And yes it is.

Edit
Every frame of time your here is hypocrisy to your chosen statements. The forums have permission to laugh harder the longer they see you here. How does that sound?

See earlier statements.

[Sunnii Bebiieh]

Then that's their job, isn't it?

Okay? Why would that matter. The point is that caring about something that doesn't meet someone else's standards for "worthwhile" doesn't mean that they aren't doing anything worthwhile, or even that they aren't doing far more worthwhile things than yourself or JimF. That's why it makes no sense that you're upset that they aren't doing something "worthwhile" in this specific instance. The implication is that if they ever do anything that's not worthwhile, you get to criticize them for not spending that time doing something worthwhile. The logical end, then, is that if people aren't constantly doing things worthwhile 100 percent of the time, you will always be criticizing them.

Or they could just stop doing the first silly thing. It's cute when the Big Bang Theory team does this kind of stuff -- but then only because they're the punchline.

In what way is it silly? Because you don't care about it? Again, other people do. You need to illustrate why it's unworthy of someone's time. And honestly there is very little anger here. It's not like the community at large is frothing at the mouth. It's just that so many are disappointed. It's a near universal consensus that the ending was handled poorly. The reason this is so big is because so many agree, not because people are just super duper angry.

I've already covered this.

You didn't. Why can you do as you wish with your time, but it's not appropriate for others to do the same?

No, I've been saying they care way too much about something meaningless.

How much should they care about it? What metric are you using to measure how much someone cares about it?

[Horse gal smithe]

Yes, you're right. And yes it is.



See earlier statements.

5 minutes you could have been curing cancer. Hahahaha!

[(G-yen)]

So I finished the game. Before doing so however I learned that many were peaved about the ending with much in the way of outrage. I figured that after a trilogy that of course there is going to be some upset [censored]. Then I learned the extent of the complants and figured that

Spoiler

Shepard died which is why so many are pissed off which did not surprised me given out much the game forshadowed his death that I was okay with Shepard's death.

Simply put I hoped it was just a very vocal angry minority jumping on a hate wagon (emphasis on hoped).

Spoiler

That being said that was by far one of the most underwealming endings that I have yet seen that offered nothing much except disappointment. I know that I am perhaps coming off as yet another really devoted fan but in this case the fanrage is dare I say justified in regards to the ending.

By all means I liked ME3 and the rest of the trilogy but the ending could almost overshadow the great journey that took us to a finale that I knew was probably going to disappoint on some level (myself including) but not quite to the extent I was expecting and by no means do I consider myself unpleasable with overally high standards.

Others of said it better then I but what bothered me was the lack of even a fouth option or indeed any in the way of closure. I would have been content with a DA:O text revealing the fate of the different species and characters in text format but not even that was given. At this point I may read fanfiction for a better written ending with something in the way of satisfaction or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtRVonWAV1s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H_A7SeawU4&feature=youtu.be I get into a wall of text and coming off more as a overeacting fan.

[Meghan Terry]

So I finished the game. Before doing so however I learned that many were peaved about the ending with much in the way of outrage. I figured that after a trilogy that of course there is going to be some upset [censored]. Then I learned the extent of the complants and figured that

Spoiler

Shepard died which is why so many are pissed off which did not surprised me given out much the game forshadowed his death that I was okay with Shepard's death.

Simply put I hoped it was just a very vocal angry minority jumping on a hate wagon (emphasis on hoped).

Spoiler

That being said that was by far one of the most underwealming endings that I have yet seen that offered nothing much except disappointment. I know that I am perhaps coming off as yet another really devoted fan but in this case the fanrage is dare I say justified in regards to the ending.

By all means I liked ME3 and the rest of the trilogy but the ending could almost overshadow the great journey that took us to a finale that I knew was probably going to disappoint on some level (myself including) but not quite to the extent I was expecting and by no means do I consider myself unpleasable with overally high standards.

Others of said it better then I but what bothered me was the lack of even a fouth option or indeed any in the way of closure. I would have been content with a DA:O text revealing the fate of the different species and characters in text format but not even that was given. At this point I may read fanfiction for a better written ending with something in the way of satisfaction or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtRVonWAV1s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H_A7SeawU4&feature=youtu.be I get into a wall of text and coming off more as a overeacting fan.

Some may think it's because he dies, but there's no consensus on the matter within the retake movement. I've seen as many want a sad ending as a happy one. The one thing we agree on though is an ending that makes sense and gives us closure. That practically crapped out in the middle of the final arch of the story. I expected an entire level or something of Shepard trying to find a way to stop that from happening. Or for him to have died with Anderson and que post game cinematic where we see the Reapers destroyed. Then we get a little slide show about how our actions affected everyone and how everything is doing New Vegas style. This end was atrocious and destroys three games worth of lore and all of the books. An astounding feat for 10 minutes.

[Pants]

http://www.gamefront.com/mass-effect-3-ending-hatred-5-reasons-the-fans-are-right/6/

best article I have seen so far.

[Bitter End]

http://www.gamefront.com/mass-effect-3-ending-hatred-5-reasons-the-fans-are-right/6/

best article I have seen so far.

Forbes has also had some insightful articles. Lots of them in support of our cause.

[Lisha Boo]

More and more evidence piling up for the supposed "indoctrination theory". Something I was stunned at, and I can't believe I didn't see it...but wasn't Saren himself, obviously Indoctrinated, a big 'advocate' of Synthesis?

[Tina Tupou]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWIimukNeAE

[Averielle Garcia]

More and more evidence piling up for the supposed "indoctrination theory". Something I was stunned at, and I can't believe I didn't see it...but wasn't Saren himself, obviously Indoctrinated, a big 'advocate' of Synthesis?

Yes he was

[Jessica Phoenix]

All the people I have talked to about Mass Effect 3 mention how bad the endings are,I'm glad I did not buy upon release.I am not sure I want to ruin my experience with the series with a ending that does have the same quality of experience as the rest of the series.If they address the ending fiasco then I will buy it simple as that.

[Joey Bel]

Uh huh. So many people were "done with them after ME2", then "Bioware is dead to mafter DA2", then it was "after ME3 im done with them".

I bet most people will go back to them eventully.
I havent touched their games since ME2, I actually dont even care about them anymore (I dont even hate them now). Im only watching these threads becuse the trainwreck is entertaining.

i rage quit bioware after DA: origins because the disapointing lack of actually meeting what the game promises to be. the only parts worth playing were the origins part, the rest had A or B.

the ending to ma:3 sounds like the same massive let down i had with da:o

[gemma]

Spoiler

shepard does not die in the so called good ending.. u get a 20 second clip of shepard in the rubble.. breathing.. but only if you chose destroy and kept TIM from killing anderson and had an EMS over 4000.. over 5000 then andersons death does not matter. people are upset not because of the death or non death but of how bad that non ending was.. no wrap up etc simply makes no sense.. then after the game they put you back before the point of no return. lol on that one.. simply means to me thats so they can add DLC before you get to the point of no return.. not because they plan of changing the ending.. i will not be buying dlc for this game or any other games of biowares.. i am of the Silent majority

[Kat Lehmann]

Spoiler

shepard does not die in the so called good ending.. u get a 20 second clip of shepard in the rubble.. breathing.. but only if you chose destroy and kept TIM from killing anderson and had an EMS over 4000.. over 5000 then andersons death does not matter. people are upset not because of the death or non death but of how bad that non ending was.. no wrap up etc simply makes no sense.. then after the game they put you back before the point of no return. lol on that one.. simply means to me thats so they can add DLC before you get to the point of no return.. not because they plan of changing the ending.. i will not be buying dlc for this game or any other games of biowares.. i am of the Silent majority

They even brazenly ask you to buy the DLC

[Wayland Neace]

Oof, slyme, take it to PMs. You are derailing the thread with that rather circular "discussion" the two of you are on about.

[Andrew]

*Insert any of your posts here*

Just let them. Yes people are wasting their time, yes its pathetic at this point. But just let them.
If people want to waste hours of their life [censored]ing over an ending to a game, let them. They deserve to have wasted their time.

Just sit back, watch the trainwreck and enjoy. Hell if they bother you that much, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owzhYNcd4OM

Meanwhile while people kick up such a fuss over an ending. I am enjoying myself (and will be having more fun when my laptop is fixed)
Feels good man.

[Alberto Aguilera]

Oof, slyme, take it to PMs. You are derailing the thread with that rather circular "discussion" the two of you are on about.

I was already done with it. Noted, anyway.

*Insert any of your posts here*

Ouch. You make it sound like that's all I talk about.

[hannah sillery]

I don't think it matters whether Bioware fixes the ending or not, the damage to me has allready been done. I was disappointed in ME2 although it was still a good game and I'd rather have that game then what happened with ME3 from a game design POV. Dragon Age 2 I thought was ok at 1st but when I did my 2nd playthrough, I started to see the flaws and traded it in a week later. That's a shame too because I loved Origins. Besides the clanky combat and random difficulty spikes, I thought the game was amazing. Then Mass Effect 3 comes around and I'm glad I read the ending beforehand because I would've been pissed if I found out the natural way. I turned it off after talking with Astro boy and I wish I had turned it off after the scene with Anderson to save me from that hell. It also didn't help that Mass Effect 3 further dumbed down the RPG aspect of the series with 90% autodialoge from John/Jane Shepard, which is basically who Shepard is now and the horrible Journal that makes Skyrim's look like Perfection in comparasion. I tried starting a 2nd playthrough, only lasted 2 minutes because of the autodialoge. Even Mass Effect 2 was better in this department, although both can't beat Mass Effect 1 which is still the best in the series, even though it has the least amount of content.

I don't think the ending is going to be changed and if Bioware decides on that, they need to say it sooner rather then later. Regardless of whatever they do, they are dead to me. There are other game companies out there, Bethesda, Big Huge/38Studios, and CDProjeckt Red that I can get a better RPG experience from. I don't know if I'll trade in Mass Effect 3 but I certainly won't be playing it anytime soon, I don't see the point.

[sara OMAR]

I was already done with it. Noted, anyway.



Ouch. You make it sound like that's all I talk about.

I meant in this thread, or atleast all of your posts from the last page or 2.

[neil slattery]

If you folks don't mind, I'd like to post this here, I'm sure many of you are already fully aware of the movement, but let me make it clear, we are not out to bash Bioware, we are just after an additional ending that brings meaningful closure to the series, our main thread is http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/9512916/2086#10382501


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