Your point being?

Being able to dress like a clown makes that much difference?
The game will become less interesting because there are no utensils?
Your choices are limited because to increase your health you have to raise one stat instead of 3?


Again, WHY DOES THIS MATTER?!

It was a little odd when i saw that there were no longer forks. Manipulable ones at least, if you can say that the old ones were. However when I saw that Skyrim has 194 clothes options compared to 151 in Morrowind, as well as more armor and weapon variations, I was most pleased... eth... ified.

Yes the simplification matters. less = less not more .

we have move forward since morrowind not back . but in skyrim things have certainly regressed.
the only difference is now we have to deal with people who don not care and do not appreciate details.

i.e. the remarks about what difference does the clothing make ?? well at one time it did make a difference the games ai had a disposition towards you based on the clothes you wore .
also if the clothes you traded to the npc was better than what they were wearing the would change out of their old clothes and to the new set they just bough off you.

this was a cool feature . but it exists no more and skyrim is less because of it .

again we do not have crossbows . and other weapons . and again less = less not more.

what we are talking about is flavor variances and minor details is what makes a game memorable you generalize and simplify to much and run the risk of becoming generic.

as gamers we owe it to ourselves to be critical of the designers . yes skyrim deserves praise but also needs to criticized in the area where it is lacking.

once upon a time this was the norm . but now to many people want to lavish praise upon praise onto whatever is dished out in front of them . likes its from some sort of diety .

When in reality it is created by man and therefore is flawed . the only way will create better and better is to critical appreciate our creations.

lavish praise upon them when they are deserving, but do not hold back on the criticism as they are the true marks to aspire to when creating the next best thing .

because if everything is perfect what is their to aspire to?

lavish praise upon them when they are deserving, but do not hold back on the criticism as they are the true marks to aspire to when creating the next best thing .

because if everything is perfect what is their to aspire to?

Yes the simplification matters. less = less not more .

we have move forward since morrowind not back . but in skyrim things have certainly regressed.
the only difference is now we have to deal with people who don not care and do not appreciate details.

Proof, that people really will complain about anything.

So now is because Nords do not use forks an blankets or other stuff but I find the detailing in skyrim pretty poor compared to previous titles where not only there was way more stuff to collect ( call it even junk if you want ) but was better placed and distribuited and created much more variety

here is how looks a table in morrowind and in skyrim , in Oblivion I didn't feel any particular deficit but in Skyrim its very well perceived as its a lot of recycled items , there is quite poor item variation as well as many other things few of this few of that , looks like they focused more on graphics and look ( that are really good ) but lacked in good detailing and attentions to the little things that make the game world feel more alive , the overal feeling is that everytime I enter a house a place or some other location I always see the same stuff over and over with very poor variation and most of times the shelves are just with scattered unpickable items or definetly empty ...

also what is with that soul gem spam ? Seems I can find anywhere them are there any suypercharged mines of soulgems in skyrim ? yu can find even in sewers and in the streets , I remember them to be quite exclusifve for wizard classes usually in morrowind while here I find enchantment tables , alchemy tables soul gems everywhere when the same lore and population seem to be quite aversed to magic and magicians ....weird isn't it?


http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/4021/detailsv.jpg

Now notice in this picture how I highlighted with red arrows all the items in plus that morrowind had on a random generic table compared to a "rich" table in skyrim ....

when you go around in bandits coves there are way less items ....

so the game feels a bit rushed like if they really wanted that 11 11 11 release that was more important than completing the game properly ....

So now is because Nords do not use forks an blankets or other stuff but I find the detailing in skyrim pretty poor compared to previous titles where not only there was way more stuff to collect ( call it even junk if you want ) but was better placed and distribuited and created much more variety

here is how looks a table in morrowind and in skyrim , in Oblivion I didn't feel any particular deficit but in Skyrim its very well perceived as its a lot of recycled items , there is quite poor item variation as well as many other things few of this few of that , looks like they focused more on graphics and look ( that are really good ) but lacked in good detailing and attentions to the little things that make the game world feel more alive , the overal feeling is that everytime I enter a house a place or some other location I always see the same stuff over and over with very poor variation and most of times the shelves are just with scattered unpickable items or definetly empty ...

also what is with that soul gem spam ? Seems I can find anywhere them are there any suypercharged mines of soulgems in skyrim ? yu can find even in sewers and in the streets , I remember them to be quite exclusifve for wizard classes usually in morrowind while here I find enchantment tables , alchemy tables soul gems everywhere when the same lore and population seem to be quite aversed to magic and magicians ....weird isn't it?


http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/4021/detailsv.jpg

Now notice in this picture how I highlighted with red arrows all the items in plus that morrowind had on a random generic table compared to a "rich" table in skyrim ....

when you go around in bandits coves there are way less items ....

so the game feels a bit rushed like if they really wanted that 11 11 11 release that was more important than completing the game properly ....

also if the clothes you traded to the npc was better than what they were wearing the would change out of their old clothes and to the new set they just bough off you.

this was a cool feature . but it exists no more and skyrim is less because of it .

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First of all, your picture showed me nothing except the fact that Skyrim is way WAY more detailed then oblivion is. I dont really understand threads like this. Expressing your opinion is one thing, but to openly whine and cry about how bad skyrim is is completely another. Like, what exactly is the point of this thread, do you want us to agree with you? do you want everyone else to complain too? I dont get it....

P.S. Skyrim is fkn epic

I agree partly with the OP. It seems that both of us came from the same MW background. But I'm not surprise why things are what they are now with TES. Bethesda is becoming more "consolized" in every new installment. TES is becoming more "arcady", more fast paced and, like they like to put it, more streamlined. Is the sign of the times. Even though I'm enjoying so far the game I know Bethesda will never bring back all that hardcoe rpg elements that was so loved by geeky pc players(like me) I can assure that if Bethesda brings back all the deep learning curve of Daggerfall and even Morrowind, the console folks will crucify TES for being boring and weird. I hate to break it to you but it all boils down to money. Nothing wrong with that of course. I hope Bethesda doesn't end up as that Greek character that had wax wings that when he flew to near to the sun the wax melted and fell to his death.

Lol @ people dissing this thread.

Yes Skyrim has less "junk" items scattered around. This is true. Go play Morrowind and compare it to Skyrim, you'll see what he is talking about.

Is this a bad thing? Not exactly. Some people enjoy cleaning out an entire house of every tidbit they can get their filthy hands on while other people only care about the more valuable items.

Though I have to admit I had to adjust at first. Going through Bleak Falls Barrow for the very first time, I checked every single vase, pottery and other objects that LOOKED like it could be holding coins and items but the majority of these containers didn't even have the option to search through them .

Pointless thread this needs locked.