while i have a problem insulting a fellow member on the forum i dont have a problem with insulting anyone from bathesda, have at it people they treated the ps3 community like garbage, there silence is merely them buying time hoping we forget, did anyone remember Mafia 2 on the ps3???? same thing happened there.

It's not like those employees are actually doing anything productive, just look at their track record. If anything they SHOULD fire them, and hire people that actually know what they're doing.

Having to get help from Sony shows how competent their coders are with the PS3.

they should have gotten help after fallout 3 was a mess, it may not be such a disaster now,

I agree, fire the Ps3 coders; they're obviously incompetent. If that means no more Ps3 games from Beth until the Ps4 is out I'm fine. As long as I get the next TES game bug free coded by people with degrees not obtained from the University of Phoenix.

Oh, the Xbox version does have its share of issues with Dawnguard installed, excessive lag in some of the Dwarven ruins for example.

I can't think of any profession that allows you to be employed with the kind of ineptitude Bethesda has shown. They've made plenty of money by selling an unfinished, and broken game early. And made plenty of money off of microsoft. They should have more than enough by now to afford some decent talent.

I would LOVE to see Microsoft ask for their money back. If Bethesda couldn't get DLC working after a month of exclusivity, then they shouldn't require their money. It sounds like Bethesda may have also lied to Microsoft, and screwed them out of money. It'd make me feel better about being a PS3 owner.

Plenty of companies have zero issues working with the PS3. It's not overly complicated, just different. Bethesda has had around 7 years to learn how to work with the PS3, and have obviously chosen not too.

The excuse of the PS3 being complicated was acceptable then, not now. Bethesda's idea of coding a Playstation game is to just port the 360 version, and rig it with band-aids and bailing wire until it can barely run.

Also, the companies that do experience problems with the PS3 are able to fix them relatively easily. After Rockstar patched their games, I stopped experiencing any problems.

That's just specific to dawnguard though.

Same issue with me here on PC.

They simply released another half baked product.

well I think dawnguard has caused the save game bloat to erupt to a situation similar to the ps3s save game bloat problem. what im saying is it has little to do with Sony xbox has the same issues just less frequent do you also blame the xbox?

Now the question is, will we get hearthfire even?

That's a good point about Bugthesda 'screwing' MS. MS paid money to have a month headstart with DG but recently Pete Hines tweeted that it wouldn't matter if that exclusivity deal never mattered and that we still wouldn't have PS3 DG so therefore MS paid money for this deal for no reason. Hmmm. You could say that it meant that the XBOX had DG a month before PC and therefore MS did technically get an exclusivity deal but it's not the same in my opinion, the XBOX and PC are not competing in the same way as the PS3 and the XBOX does and I suspect MS feel the same way.
So MS pays money to get DG before PS3 but we now know that that was a pointless investment as PS3 wouldn't have DG by now anyway. The point is, did Bugthesda knowingly take MS money knowing that the PS3 version wouldn't be here for months after the XBOX release. Keep in mind that Bugthesda has already knowingly released a buggy broken PS3 version on 11/11/11, we already know that they are not trustworthy. Personally I think MS ought to take a look at this.

I'd been lucky with all my Bethesda games on the PS3. I own FO3 GOTY and FO:NV with all dlc's and I've never had any issues at all with my copies (or if I did they were so minimal I can't even recall them). I had minimal issues with Skyrim as well on my PS3. I don't know if it's my specific system (fat 80gb unit) but it's hard for me to believe my game plays perfectly yet the next guys says his is unplayable. If it works on one PS3 why doesn't it work on another?

Nope I've been considering Bethesda to be a company to release products half baked and partially tested for quite a while.

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